Vista common issue - can see but access

[chicagotech]

Thank you for the feedback. Forgetting to assign permission in Secure Tab is the common issue. When enabling sharing a root drive, by default, it assigns every one read only. So, the common issues sharing are 1) you may be able to see it but access. 2) you may be able to open it but modify.

We may have different options to fix it.

1. Enable guest account that is not recommended for the security reason.
2. Assign everyone full rights in the Security tab that is no secure too.
3. Create the identical username in all home network computers.
4. More secure way is assigning users necessary rights to the shared folders based on their needs.
5. Or check this link, Can’t access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/vi ... .php?t=460.
6. More important, make sure share permissions must match the folder security for access to a share.


Good luck!

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
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"Bob" <Bob> wrote in message news:24549B62-3E4E-461B-A108-476D9771586E@microsoft.com...
Found the problem and fixed it. Almost too embarassing to admit. Hadn't
checked the security tab on C drive to enable the all user's permissions.
DUH!

"Bob" wrote:

> The permissions for C are "Everyone" with full control.
>
> I tried the icacls command for C . My results were as follows: "The network
> name cannot be found. Successfully processed 0 files, failed processing 1
> file"
>
> When I ran the icacls for d, the results were as expected. It sucessfully
> processed 1 file and showed the results.
>
> How do I fix the problem with C ?
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Double check the permission in C drive. or use icacls command.
> >
> > How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/forum1.htm
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Bob" <Bob> wrote in message news:8E200287-996E-4DC9-B12E-4C6915D127E6@microsoft.com...
> > I have two Dell desktops with XP sp2 and One Dell laptop just upgraded to
> > Vista. The problem is file sharing.
> >
> > Desktop 1 and the laptop/Vista can see and share each others files with no
> > problem on any drive letters.
> >
> > Desktop 2 can see D: on the laptop and share its files. It sees C: but
> > cannot access the folders/files on C:. The laptop/Vista can see and access
> > all files and drive letters on Desktop 2.
> >
> > To put it another way, my wife's computer can see and share C on the laptop,
> > I cannot. The laptop can see and share both desktops.
> >
> > Both desktops are configured the same. I'm Using windows firewall which has
> > been disabled at times for testing.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is an XP or Vista problem. Any ideas out there

[chicagotech]

Thank you so very much for your info and link.

Under "Folder Security and Share Permissions" it was the words "... will be
using the Guest account, which is not a member of the Users group." that
helped us a lot! We added a Guest acccount to the "Group and user names" in
the Security tab of the Properties of each shared drive on the Vista computer
and that did the job!
Now we can access all shared drives and folders in the Vista computer from
all the XP Home computers in our network.

Again many, many thanks for your help!!!

Sigrid


One of the 5 computers in our Home Network got upgraded to Vista Ultimate
64-bit.
It it possible from this "new" computer to go into all drives/folders on all
the other computers in the Network.
The other computers are able to see the new Vista computer and the shared
drives as well as the shared "Public" drive. But we can only get into the
Public folder and it's sub-folders. As soon as we click on one of the other
shared drives on the Vista computer (drives D, E and F) we get the message
"... is not accessable. You might not have permission to use this network
resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions. Access is denied."
We've tried to turn off the Firewall - but without avail.
There are checkmarks at the LLTD in the Local Area Connection Properties.

We can work with the network from the Vista computer but not vice versa.
We have no problems with the network within the other computers running on
XP - they're still accessable and everything works smooth.

Any idea or help would be highly appreaciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Sigrid

[chicagotech]

Thank you for the feedback. As the post mentioned, it is not recommended to enable Guest account. it is better to create the same username in both computers.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
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"James Bramblett" <JamesBramblett> wrote in message news:8250842D-D536-4995-BAC0-5C43FC774454@microsoft.com...
Thank you helped me some. I got access to the xp computer after i took the
password of the guest account i am not sure what this had to do with anything
but i am now abel to access it through the other 2 computers my first
networking experience was a success not sure how though


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Sound like permission issue. This search result may help,
>
> Vista Permission IssuesVista common issue - can see but access ... So, the common issues sharing are 1) you may be able to see it but access. 2) you may be able to open it but . ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "James Bramblett" <James> wrote in message news:99063411-525C-42E7-A3E2-A0E4FF86ADD2@microsoft.com...
> i am farily new to networking i set up a small buisness network with 3
> computers 1 vista the other 2 are xp i can print from all three to the two
> printers and i can access the shared folders on the vista from one of the xp
> and one xp from the vista however one is prompting for a user name and
> passsword and i can not figure out what i use here or how to bypass it any
> help would be greatly appreciated thank you

[chicagotech]

Since enabling guest works, that approve this is security issue. However, we don't recommended to enable guest account, so that you may want to create same username and password on the both computers. This link may help,

Vista common issue - can see but ...1. Enable guest account that is not recommended for the security reason. 2. Assign everyone full rights in the Security tab that is no secure too. ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/vi ... .php?t=450


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
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How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Marcel Maessen" <marcel> wrote in message news:F570BC4C-FB87-424E-9889-EC7352A73707@microsoft.com...
OK, here's "A" solution I found in this community, although imho not a very
decent one.

I just added the "guest" account to the list of people who are allowed to
share the folder and files and gave this account all necessary permissions
and now I can access the shared folders.

So much for Vista increased security, or am I wrong? For now, it's the only
solution that works.

Anyway; Thanks for your help, Robert.

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> This how to may help,
>
> Vista How toHow to: disable Vista password protected sharing ... Post Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: How to: disable Vista password protected sharing . ...
> http://www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vista.htm
>
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Marcel Maessen" <marcel> wrote in message news:E1348649-7906-45ED-BD23-F44047FE54C8@microsoft.com...
> I think I have, but how can I grant access to a user on a different computer?
> I have not been able to find that part of the sharing setup.
>
> Thanks for your answer
>
> "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:
>
> > Open the properties of the shared folder and check the Security tab. Have you assign permission there? Please post back.
> >
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > "Marcel Maessen" <marcel> wrote in message news:3F23C48F-C0DE-4826-8919-FD029F8A7F7A@microsoft.com...
> > OK, here's the setup:
> >
> > Two laptops running on Vista Home premium, connected to the internet and
> > eachother by a router/Switch.
> >
> > All settings from the firewall are correct, since I can see the folders I
> > shared on either PC.
> >
> > The thing is, though, that once I click on the shared folders I get the
> > error message " \\machine\shared_folder is not accessible. You probably don't
> > have the proper credentials top access this networksource. Contact the
> > administrator to find out if you have the right credentials. ACCESS DENIED"
> >
> > Now, what did I do wrong and how can I correct this problem?
> >
> > Sure, I have to grant access to the user on the other computer, but how??
> >
> > Please help!

[chicagotech]

Hi Robert,

Panic over, cracked it, just followed my nose, added the user "everone" to
to drive, set the permissions and accesss was granted first time.

Hope this thread helps others.

Thank you Ray.

"Ray Kilham" wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Thanks for your time, I tried the Icacls command, no luck the system
> returned the following message "The system cannot find the path specified".
>
> But I think upon further investigation, I may have found the answer, If go
> in to the properites of the drive the other PC can access, on the security
> tab under group or user names their is a heading called "everyone", on the
> two drives the other PC cannot access this is not their, could this be the
> answer?, if so, please could you tell me how to add the it step bty step
> please.
>
> regards
>
> Ray
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
> > You may want to use icacls command to check the permissions. This how to may
> > help,
> >
> > How to use icacls
> > http://msvistahowto.googlepages.com/
> >
> > --
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> > http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> > http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >
> >
> > "Ray Kilham" <RayKilham> wrote in message
> > news:E9F96641-A028-45EC-97BE-A4ACFB8D1F58@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi Robert,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply, no luck.
> > > I disconected and reconected the network drives, checked all the
> > > permissions
> > > were the same, they were, but still we can only access one of the three
> > > diskes from my wifes PC when tey are mapped drives, the strange thing, if
> > > I
> > > try to access them via "My network places" on my wifes PC, I can still
> > > only
> > > access one of the three, and get access denied on the other two.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > >> This link may help,
> > >>
> > >> Vista Permission Issues Vista Permission Issues. Access Is Denied when
> > >> Vista
> > >> Accesses Network Share If you receive access denied, it could be the
> > >> permission issue ...
> > >> http://bobmsmvp.googlepages.com/vistapermissionissues
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> > >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> > >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Ray Kilham" <RayKilham> wrote in message
> > >> news:F68E464A-5446-4094-9CDB-E3B9E3C14173@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > Can anyone help please, we have small wired network at home.
> > >> >
> > >> > My PC is running Vista Ultimate and the other PC, my wifes, is running
> > >> > XP
> > >> > service pack 2.
> > >> >
> > >> > On the rear of my machine are three USB hard drives which are all shown
> > >> > on
> > >> > my wifes PC as mapped network drives, she can only access one of them,
> > >> > the
> > >> > other two will not allow access, all three drive have the same
> > >> > permissions
> > >> > set on them.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any one any ideas please, its driving me mad.
> > >>
> >

[chicagotech]

I was able to fix the public folder using your advice. Thank you. I have a
second drive on the Vista computer that the XP cannot access. Drive Q:\ is
shared. On the share permissions tab, Everyone has full control. On the
Security Tab it says "Allow Authenticated Users, System, Adminstrators and
Users Full Control. It does not have "Everyone" on the list. If I try to add
a new Group or user name, it won't let me change the location. It is set to
the name of the Vista Computer. Password Protection is not on.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Sounds like permission issues. Have you assign permission under security
> tab? or this link may help. Please post back with the result.
>
> Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject:
> How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
>
> --
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> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "LJuliet97" <LJuliet97> wrote in message
> news:08C78D5E-797A-400D-B86F-76555ED55B38@microsoft.com...
> > We are running a small network of macs and pcs. All computers are on the
> > same
> > subnet mask and have the same gateway ip address. On computer A we are
> > running Vista. I have ports 995, 137, 138, & 139 open. On computer B, we
> > are
> > running XP home with no firewall protection. The Vista can access and edit
> > the XP but the XP computer can see the Vista but can not edit it. When I
> > try
> > to make a new folder in the public folder from the XP it tells me that I
> > am
> > unable to create the folder 'New Folder' Access is denied. Please tell me
> > somewhere else I can check.
>

[ganeshkulkarni]

Hi,
I have the same problem 'can see (outlook etc. can access the internet) but through browser I can not access the INternet'. I am using vista and access internet over LAN. Initially everything is fine; but after some time, the issue occurs and only restarting the machine helps.

Please help me solve the issue.

[chicagotech]

This sentence "can access the internet) but through browser I can not access the INternet" confuses me. Do you have problem to access the Internet or LAN?

[chicagotech]

Thank you for the tip. FYI, for security reason, we don't recommend to enable guest account.

--
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http://www.ChicagoTech.net
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http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Jason R" wrote in message news:2008498750junk@imperial.cc...
> If you are planning to enable the Vista Guest account, and allow XP and Vista PCs to access a Vista shared folder without being forced to create same-name user accounts on the Vista PC, then you will need to disable Password Protected Sharing.
>
> 1) Right click on your Network icon
> 2) Click on Password Protected Sharing
> 3) Turn it off
>
> For this to work, you must have enabled your Vista guest account... and your Vista shared folder(s) must have Security settings to allow "Everyone" to have either Read and Execute | or Full Control.
>