From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: One machine on network can't connect to Internet
Date:
05/14/2007 17:41:46
Hi
Many things can be wrong, in order to find out what is wrong you have to
start step wise "Debugging" of the system.
Network in general, http://www.ezlan.net/debug.html
Wireless issues, http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"brez717" <brez717@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2BBA1B12-D0A6-417D-AEF8-2611DEECEBC8@microsoft.com...
>I have a wireless network with 3 PCs and a laptop. All machines are
> connected to the wireless network. 1 PC is not connecting to the
> internet.
> What could be causing this problem? No changes were made to this PC nor
> the
> network. Have Verizon DSL with modem and router connected to main PC.
> Laptop has wireless card and 2 PCs have USB network adapters. Have tried
> swapping USB adapters on the 2 PCs - didn't connect to internet. Have
> tried
> disconnecting modem, router, adapters, etc. - didn't connect. Any
insight
> would be appreciated.
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Optional antennas and 802.11n draft routers
Date:
04/30/2007 15:48:29
Hi
If you get better results then use it, electronically (impedance wise) it
would not harm the Wireless output.
In theory part of the advantages of the 802.11n is the product special
Antenna arrangement. I guess on some devices a good 5dbi antenna can
compensate for a mediocre 2dbi MIMO.
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Lorenzo Sandini" <lorenzo.sandini@POISTA.uku.fi> wrote in message
news:59luq3F2l9pd7U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hello,
>
> I previously used a D-Link DGL-4300 router, to which I had attached a
> semi-directional DWL-M60AT antenna, with good results across the house,
> even on different floors, much to my surprise. That router accepted only
> one antenna unfortunately.
>
> The antennas on the D-Link DIR-655 can be removed, and anything with a SMA
> connector can be attached. Although D-Link claims this router has "better
> coverage", the signal was just invisible downstairs with the default 3
> tiny white antennas, so I replaced two with DWL-M60AT spare antennas, and
> the middle one with a 5dB omnidirectonal from an SMC wireless NIC, and the
> coverage is now good everywhere.
>
> Is there anything special to verify before attaching an antenna to this
> router, or will any 802.11b/g antenna be compatible ?
>
> Lorenzo
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: please help me
Date:
04/21/2007 22:52:58
Hi
Depending on your type on Internet connection, it might be an authentication
issue.
For Cable - http://www.ezlan.net/broadband.html
For DSL - http://www.ezlan.net/PPPOE.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"shelleyh1980" <shelleyh1980@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA9B160C-6194-4DA8-B2DD-955B0A28B998@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a Belkin 54g wireless router off ebay (needless to say
> with
> no instructions), I thought this would be easy but...............
>
> I have plugged everything into my modem ok and my laptop finds and
> connects
> to the wireless connection, but when I try to open the internet (I use
> firefox) it say
>
> "page cannot be displayed"
>
> as if i'm offline
>
>
> ANY help will be MUCH appreciated
>
> Thank you so much in advance
>
> Shelley
>
> xx
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From:
<ato_zee@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: please help me
Date:
04/22/2007 04:17:34
On 22-Apr-2007, =?Utf-8?B?c2hlbGxleWgxOTgw?=
<shelleyh1980@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I've just bought a Belkin 54g wireless router off ebay (needless to say with
> no instructions), I thought this would be easy but...............
>
> I have plugged everything into my modem ok and my laptop finds and connects
> to the wireless connection, but when I try to open the internet (I use
> firefox) it say
>
> "page cannot be displayed"
>
> as if i'm offline
>
> ANY help will be MUCH appreciated
It's useful if you can access the routers configuration, it's probably
as configured by the previous owner.
The previous owner may have had problems.
Search on Google and Belkin website for a downloadable PDF
manual.
Start ->Run -> ipconfig -all > C:\ipconfig.txt
Then open ipconfig.txt with notepad and report here.
The > in the command means write result of command to a
file.
Getting it working may be a step at a time process.
Like are you using WZC to setup the connection, can you
ping the router, can you access the routers config. menu
etc?
Laptop finds and connects is a good sign assuming
it's found and connected to your router.
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: please help me
Date:
04/22/2007 16:49:21
shelleyh1980 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a Belkin 54g wireless router off ebay (needless to say with
> no instructions), I thought this would be easy but...............
>
> I have plugged everything into my modem ok and my laptop finds and connects
> to the wireless connection, but when I try to open the internet (I use
> firefox) it say
>
> "page cannot be displayed"
>
> as if i'm offline
>
>
> ANY help will be MUCH appreciated
>
> Thank you so much in advance
>
> Shelley
>
> xx
When in doubt, read the instructions. When no instructions are
supplied, check the manufacturer's web site. If you had identified
which Belkin router you bought, we could have directed you to the
manual, but just go to http://www.belkin.com/ and enter the model number
in the product search box. The manual for Belkin's current 54g router,
the F5D7230-4, is here:
http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en?
(click the little Adobe icon to download).
--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Brian W <bex753@yahoo.co.uk>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: please help me
Date:
04/24/2007 07:07:46
open a command line
type in ipconfig
look what the gateway is
usually 192.168.2.1 on belkins
type this into firefox/ie
if it askes for a user/pass (belkins normaly don't) try the usual suspects
user admin
pass (blank) , admin 1234 user
and run the setup to put your user pass etxc in
give me more deatals like what country you are in who is your ip and I can
help you more
"shelleyh1980" <shelleyh1980@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EA9B160C-6194-4DA8-B2DD-955B0A28B998@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a Belkin 54g wireless router off ebay (needless to say
> with
> no instructions), I thought this would be easy but...............
>
> I have plugged everything into my modem ok and my laptop finds and
> connects
> to the wireless connection, but when I try to open the internet (I use
> firefox) it say
>
> "page cannot be displayed"
>
> as if i'm offline
>
>
> ANY help will be MUCH appreciated
>
> Thank you so much in advance
>
> Shelley
>
> xx
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From:
MSNews <noreply@chicagotech.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Please help; Problem with connection after sleep mode
Date:
05/14/2007 21:41:54
Use the "High performance" power plan. This post may help,
Vista: Wireless connectivity issuePost Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:26 am Post
subject: Vista: Wireless connectivity issue ... The wireless lose the
connection after sleep mode. ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?p=794?
--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Flyerfan27" <Flyerfan27@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ADDFF533-66E8-4B83-8F5C-2C3D7FB4787F@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> I use a Net Gear WGT634U 108 Mbps Router to connect my Notebook computer
> to
> the internet and to my Desktop computer. My Notebook PC is a Gateway
> MX8734
> and has an internal Intel® PRO/100VE Network adapter. The Desktop is hard
> wired to the Router. Both Computers are running Vista Home Premium
> Operating
> Systems. I recently tried to enable the WPA and then the WEP security to
> this
> Router. I am not knowledgeable about this stuff, but I was successful in
> enabling the security using both the WEP or the WPA security. I do however
> run into a problem that I do not have when these securities are not
> enabled.
>
> When I boot up my Notebook from the off mode my Notebook connects to the
> Router automatically and works properly. Whenever my Notebook goes into a
> power saving mode and I wake it up to work on it again my connection does
> not
> work. When I bring up the "Connect to a network" window the message next
> to
> my Network name says: "Connected with limited access", but I cannot access
> anything. When everything is working properly the message simply says:
> "Connected". To get everything working again I have to disconnect the
> Notebook connection and reconnect it again. After I do this everything
> works
> again until the next time my Notebook goes into any power saving mode. I
> first tried using the WPA security and now I am trying the WEP security
> and I
> have the same problem with both. I do have the boxes checked to remember
> the
> pass code and to connect automatically. I also use the Wireless Access
> List
> for security.
>
> Does anyone know how I can fix this problem? I would like to keep my
> connection secure as possible, but this is a little annoying to have to
> deal
> with every time I go back on my Notebook computer because I am off and on
> it
> al day and night. Any help and suggestions will be deeply appreciated.
>
> Thank you, James
>
>
>
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From:
Tanaka Oshi <TanakaOshi@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: printer setup for wireless
Date:
04/30/2007 12:52:01
Just for grins, trying running the Network Wizard again (if you haven't
already done so), that may help. I ran into a similar problem last week,
tried rejoing a workgroup and still nada, did the wizard and it worked!
--
I didn''''t'''' do it, you can''''t prove a thing, and besides no one saw a
thing.
"ICPS_Jim" wrote:
> I have just setup a notebook on a wireless netgear router. There is also
a
> desktop attached to the router but it is wired in, I cannot access the
> Desktop from the laptop to setup the printer that is attached to it.
printer
> and document sharing is enabled on both computers and the printer is shared
> on the desktop. The desktop can see both computers on its workgroup, but
the
> laptop can only see the laptop. Thanks for the help.
> --
> ICPS_Jim
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: printer setup for wireless
Date:
04/30/2007 15:41:44
Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of
each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"ICPS_Jim" <ICPSJim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D808BD97-39EA-4CC3-8F14-6D96E3A38F6E@microsoft.com...
>I have just setup a notebook on a wireless netgear router. There is also
a
> desktop attached to the router but it is wired in, I cannot access the
> Desktop from the laptop to setup the printer that is attached to it.
> printer
> and document sharing is enabled on both computers and the printer is
> shared
> on the desktop. The desktop can see both computers on its workgroup, but
> the
> laptop can only see the laptop. Thanks for the help.
> --
> ICPS_Jim
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From:
ICPS_Jim <ICPSJim@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: printer setup for wireless
Date:
05/01/2007 12:46:00
Thanks Guys, I think that helped solve the problem.
--
ICPS_Jim
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> Hi
> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
> settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of
> each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
> Basic XP -
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
> Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Printer Sharing XP -
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "ICPS_Jim" <ICPSJim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D808BD97-39EA-4CC3-8F14-6D96E3A38F6E@microsoft.com...
> >I have just setup a notebook on a wireless netgear router. There is
also a
> > desktop attached to the router but it is wired in, I cannot access the
> > Desktop from the laptop to setup the printer that is attached to it.
> > printer
> > and document sharing is enabled on both computers and the printer is
> > shared
> > on the desktop. The desktop can see both computers on its workgroup,
but
> > the
> > laptop can only see the laptop. Thanks for the help.
> > --
> > ICPS_Jim
>
>
>
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From:
Ms Nickel <MsNickel@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: printer sharing
Date:
04/24/2007 23:18:01
Interesting concept, that run thing...and more interesting is original
question. I suffer the same problem of my laptop and pc can both connect to
the internet, but I cnanot see the laptop on my pc network and I cannot see
my pc's printer...
PC is Vista, laptop is XpPro...and i cannot find the run command on the
Vista Machine.
thoughts?
"Doug Simar" wrote:
> Make sure that you share the printer on the machine that its connected to
> first. Then find the IP address of the target machines and go to RUN->and
> type CMD-> then type in \\192.168.0.whatever then wait for the box to
> display the shared setting of the target computer. Right click on the
> printer Icon and choose CONNECT and it should automatically load the printer
> on the target machine for you. Pretty basic.
>
> Doug
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <Jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
> news:uZ4q6VfdHHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> > Yes, the drivers have to be installed on the Laptop too.
> > Installation should be done through Control panel/Printers & Faxes/ Add a
> > Network Printer.
> > Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >
> > "Amy" <Amy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:649FE96D-AF6E-42F3-96EB-0E7D89F2AC14@microsoft.com...
> >> Hey, i want to be able to print using my desktop printer from my laptop,
> >> ive
> >> followed the setup of the sharing printer, and ive searched for the
> >> printer
> >> but my laptop can't find any printers. i was wondering if maybe i need to
> >> install the cd rom for the printer on my laptop??
> >> thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From:
Steve the Printer <StevethePrinter@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Printers and wireless network
Date:
04/29/2007 16:44:02
Glad that this info was still here. By digging into firewall software, I
was
able to find areas where I could allow access for my local network. And
Voila, the printer icon all of the sudden appeared and i cna print from my
laptop.
"A. Mundie" wrote:
> Hello. I'm very new to this and I'm trying to use a printer on the host
> computer using a wireless network. I am able to connect to the internet
on
> the 2nd computer, but I cannot see or use the printer on the host computer.
> I've tried to run the setup network wizard, but it doesn't seem to help!
>
> Thanks!
>
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From:
John S <JohnS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Problems in Vista with WiFi and Ndis (ndisuio.sys)
Date:
04/25/2007 11:02:07
Are you stopping the Native Wifi filter service when doing this?
"Frank" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I need help for Vista OS.
>
> I am updating a program to make connections to Wifi Networks so that
> it works in Vista.
> This program work with ndisuio.sys driver or any compatible driver
> based on NDISPROT sample protocol driver.
>
> For this case I stop the Wlansvc as I was doing in XP with the wzcsvc.
> It work without problems and Vista let me control the WiFi device.
>
> These drivers work fine in Vista and the devices I have probed work
> fine with them.
> I send these OID´s for make a connection:
> OID_802_11_INFRASTRUCTURE_MODE(0x0D010108)
> OID_802_11_AUTHENTICATION_MODE(0x0D010118)
> OID_802_11_ADD_KEY(0x0D01011D) (some
times, if the mode needs it)
> OID_802_11_WEP_STATUS(0x0D01011B)
> OID_802_11_SSID(0x0D010102)
>
OID_GEN_PORT_AUTHENTICATION_PARAMETERS(0x0001020F)
>
> They work well and they are shown by the program ndismon(PCAUSA) also
> when the system connects.
>
> The connection(association) with the AP is Ok and I send the neccesary
> security protocol (802.1X, WPA-PSK, WPA-PEAP) developed in my program
> and they work fine with the device and the AP.
>
> THE PROBLEM:
> Up to here, everything seems to work fine but the problem is with the
> TCP/IP and the new interface added in the system Vista.
>
> The new interface does not appear in the window "Network and Sharing
> Center" and the DHCP protocol does not work over it.
> The new interfce does not obtain IP address and it does not work
> although the association with the AP and the authorization and
> authentication with the WiFi device is Ok.
>
> I think that more actions are necessary in order to wake up the
> interface in the system Vista although I have not been able to find
> information on the matter.
>
> Any help about this issue would be very appreciated.
>
> Sorry for my bad English.
>
> Best regards,
> Frank
>
>
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From:
Frank <flopezmer@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Problems in Vista with WiFi and Ndis (ndisuio.sys)
Date:
04/27/2007 03:56:04
On 25 abr, 18:02, John S <J...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Are you stopping the Native Wifi filter service when doing this?
>
>
>
Hi, thank you by you comment.
I have stopped the NativeWifiP service and the interface does not work
yet.
I think that the problem is with the network identity procedure
(Private or public network) and/or network location procedure.
But I do not know who controls this procedure (api or dll).
How to initiate it programatically or how create a new network
location.
Fran.
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From:
Roy Avery <roymtbkr@nospam_rocketmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Receive/Send in Outlook Express
Date:
04/30/2007 16:30:54
In Outlook Express, you need to go to Tools --> Accounts. Click on the
Mail
tab. If you're not ready to delete the account for your PeoplePC mail,
then
you can simply doubleclick the account and uncheck the box at the bottom.
The one marked, "Include this account when checking for new messages.
Roy
"Conquerer" <Conquerer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6537B74E-E7C6-4CDF-B4B9-A7FDB37ED7B3@microsoft.com...
> EI am using a wireless adapter subcontracted by Time Warner. I have failed
to
> receive or send e-mail using Outlook Express or Microsoft Outlook Express.
I
> was using PeoplePc.com as my dial-up ISP. I discontinued them a month
ago
> but Outlook is still asking me to receive/send thru them. Need help.
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Receive/Send in Outlook Express
Date:
04/30/2007 20:43:54
Hi
And do not forget to set an Account for your current email.
http://www.sc.rr.com/rrhelp/outlook.htm
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Roy Avery" <roymtbkr@nospam_rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:133co0cois05v81@corp.supernews.com...
> In Outlook Express, you need to go to Tools --> Accounts. Click on the
> Mail
> tab. If you're not ready to delete the account for your PeoplePC mail,
> then
> you can simply doubleclick the account and uncheck the box at the bottom.
> The one marked, "Include this account when checking for new messages.
>
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> "Conquerer" <Conquerer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6537B74E-E7C6-4CDF-B4B9-A7FDB37ED7B3@microsoft.com...
>> EI am using a wireless adapter subcontracted by Time Warner. I have
>> failed
> to
>> receive or send e-mail using Outlook Express or Microsoft Outlook
>> Express.
> I
>> was using PeoplePc.com as my dial-up ISP. I discontinued them a month
>> ago
>> but Outlook is still asking me to receive/send thru them. Need help.
>
>
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From:
<ato_zee@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remove hidden device error message
Date:
05/09/2007 13:47:30
On 9-May-2007, =?Utf-8?B?bWFyaW8=?= <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I tried
> to remove it from the registry and got an error when I tried to delete the
> key.
Have met this myself. I found that you need to use regedt32 and right click
on the entry, then permissions, the tick everything/everyone, and in
Advanced Options do the same.
AFAIR there is an Apply button to click.
The guy that put me on to this also said use CClean first, which I did,
but I don't know if the above might have worked without using CClean.
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From:
mario <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remove hidden device error message
Date:
05/09/2007 15:39:03
Success!! Changing the permissions with Regedt32 did the trick.
Thank you very much.
Mario
"ato_zee@hotmail.com" wrote:
>
> On 9-May-2007, =?Utf-8?B?bWFyaW8=?= <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
>
> > I tried
> > to remove it from the registry and got an error when I tried to delete the
> > key.
>
> Have met this myself. I found that you need to use regedt32 and right click
> on the entry, then permissions, the tick everything/everyone, and in
> Advanced Options do the same.
> AFAIR there is an Apply button to click.
> The guy that put me on to this also said use CClean first, which I did,
> but I don't know if the above might have worked without using CClean.
>
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From:
shamz <shamz@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/01/2007 15:51:03
"ML" wrote:
> Hello
> I want to configure my Access Point - Dlink 2000 to use with a BT home Hub
> for better coverage.#
> I was a bit confused with the settings when going into the AP's
> configuration. Do I choose Repeater or Access point and what is the
> difference?
> thanks
> J
>
>
>
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From:
shamz <shamz@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/01/2007 16:00:01
hello
sorry cant help with your question, but i was wondering if you could answer
mine.My wireless route is showing up on my laptop as being unsecure and its
name has chenged. I am trying to alter this on my main computer, but I dont
know how to get into the web browser of the wirless router so that i can get
to the access point. Any ideas ???
thx
shamz
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/02/2007 09:08:54
shamz wrote:
> hello
> sorry cant help with your question, but i was wondering if you could answer
> mine.My wireless route is showing up on my laptop as being unsecure and its
> name has chenged. I am trying to alter this on my main computer, but I dont
> know how to get into the web browser of the wirless router so that i can get
> to the access point. Any ideas ???
>
> thx
> shamz
>
>
Please don't piggyback on someone else's posting. Start a new thread
with a descriptive subject.
For help in asking questions, see
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
and
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
As for your particular inquiry, see the second FAQ, first item under
"How To Interpret Answers"
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/01/2007 16:59:49
Hi
I have No idea what BT Home Hub means as regards to Wireless.
In order to decide which mode is best suitable you have to describe your
settings in more detailed technical terms.
Mean time these pages can help.
Wireless Modes - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html
Extending Distance - http://www.ezlan.net/Distance.html
Wireless Router as an AP - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
Wireless Bridging - http://www.ezlan.net/bridging
Hi Gain Antenna - http://www.ezlan.net/antennae.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"ML" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:uTU6cYBjHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hello
> I want to configure my Access Point - Dlink 2000 to use with a BT home Hub
> for better coverage.#
> I was a bit confused with the settings when going into the AP's
> configuration. Do I choose Repeater or Access point and what is the
> difference?
> thanks
> J
>
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From:
ML <someone@somewhere.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/03/2007 10:44:30
Yeah sorry.
Homehub is a wireless Router/DSL.
That's all set up fine. It's the Access Point I'm not sure of. The only
thing I could find on Ezlan (great site) regarding AP is
http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html but I was trying to get a simpler
explanation . As Mode 1 Gateway and Mode 4 Repeater sound like they do the
same.
M
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <Jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
news:OrmTYwDjHHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> I have No idea what BT Home Hub means as regards to Wireless.
> In order to decide which mode is best suitable you have to describe your
> settings in more detailed technical terms.
> Mean time these pages can help.
> Wireless Modes - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html
> Extending Distance - http://www.ezlan.net/Distance.html
> Wireless Router as an AP - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
> Wireless Bridging - http://www.ezlan.net/bridging
> Hi Gain Antenna - http://www.ezlan.net/antennae.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "ML" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:uTU6cYBjHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hello
>> I want to configure my Access Point - Dlink 2000 to use with a BT home
>> Hub for better coverage.#
>> I was a bit confused with the settings when going into the AP's
>> configuration. Do I choose Repeater or Access point and what is the
>> difference?
>> thanks
>> J
>>
>
>
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/03/2007 11:49:36
ML wrote:
> Hello
> I want to configure my Access Point - Dlink 2000 to use with a BT home Hub
> for better coverage.#
> I was a bit confused with the settings when going into the AP's
> configuration. Do I choose Repeater or Access point and what is the
> difference?
> thanks
> J
>
>
How do you want to connect your D-Link 2000? That is, do you want the
D-Link
(a) to pick up the wireless signal from your BT HomeHub and repeat it so
that a wifi client that's beyond the range of the BT HomeHub can
connect, or
(b) to be connected to the BT HomeHub via an Ethernet cable, so it can
be located beyond the wireless range of the BT HomeHub but still provide
access to wifi clients?
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
ML <someone@somewhere.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/06/2007 05:08:31
Well I thought originally (b) but really not that you mention it either way.
J
"Lem" <lemp40@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23pv%23JMajHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> ML wrote:
>> Hello
>> I want to configure my Access Point - Dlink 2000 to use with a BT home
>> Hub for better coverage.#
>> I was a bit confused with the settings when going into the AP's
>> configuration. Do I choose Repeater or Access point and what is the
>> difference?
>> thanks
>> J
>
> How do you want to connect your D-Link 2000? That is, do you want the
> D-Link
>
> (a) to pick up the wireless signal from your BT HomeHub and repeat it so
> that a wifi client that's beyond the range of the BT HomeHub can connect,
> or
>
> (b) to be connected to the BT HomeHub via an Ethernet cable, so it can be
> located beyond the wireless range of the BT HomeHub but still provide
> access to wifi clients?
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Repeater/Access point
Date:
05/06/2007 12:51:27
ML wrote:
> Well I thought originally (b) but really not that you mention it either way.
> J
>
> "Lem" <lemp40@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23pv%23JMajHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> ML wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> I want to configure my Access Point - Dlink 2000 to use with a BT home
>>> Hub for better coverage.#
>>> I was a bit confused with the settings when going into the AP's
>>> configuration. Do I choose Repeater or Access point and what is the
>>> difference?
>>> thanks
>>> J
>> How do you want to connect your D-Link 2000? That is, do you want the
>> D-Link
>>
>> (a) to pick up the wireless signal from your BT HomeHub and repeat it so
>> that a wifi client that's beyond the range of the BT HomeHub can connect,
>> or
>>
>> (b) to be connected to the BT HomeHub via an Ethernet cable, so it can be
>> located beyond the wireless range of the BT HomeHub but still provide
>> access to wifi clients?
>>
>> --
>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>
>
As I attempted to imply from the way I wrote the questions, (a) is a
"repeater" and (b) is an "access point." One consideration is that
repeaters generally cut the throughput in half. For more info see
http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html
--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: router
Date:
05/10/2007 09:36:32
Hi
A Wireless Router is an independent device that should not affect the
Computer.
Many people use the CD that comes with the Router to configure the Router.
Since it is just as is to configure the Router manfully, try to uninstall
this software may be it creates the problem.
Alternatively if you installed at the same time a Wireless card in the
computer there might be conflict of IRQ between the Card and the IDE bus and
the card's setting has to be checked.
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"dianne51" <dianne51@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C224983-BEE7-4B20-8168-4663FAC40F00@microsoft.com...
> since installing our wireless router we have been having problems with
> unwanted shutdown when opening dvd-rw drawer. any ideas what might be
> causing
> thyis to happen -
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From:
Joan Archer <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Router Faulty ? ?
Date:
04/28/2007 14:10:19
Have you checked your firewall to see if that is blocking it.
Joan
Kevin Cole wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Scenario.
>
> 1. I have a desktop connected to adsl via a d-link wireless router. Fine
> no problems.
> 2. My wireless laptop can connect to router and browse web etc. Fine
> no problems.
>
> Problem.
>
> No matter what I try and do I can not get desktop to communicated with
> laptop ?
>
> I've tried all the network/wireless network options under xp. Made
> changes to settings on router etc.
>
> I can't see where I am going wrong !
>
> All i want to do is share my desktop hard drive and printer !
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kev
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Router Faulty ? ?
Date:
04/28/2007 15:16:24
Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of
each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Kevin Cole" <kcsoftware@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:%23HAK4fciHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi All,
>
> Scenario.
>
> 1. I have a desktop connected to adsl via a d-link wireless router. Fine
> no problems.
> 2. My wireless laptop can connect to router and browse web etc. Fine no
> problems.
>
> Problem.
>
> No matter what I try and do I can not get desktop to communicated with
> laptop ?
>
> I've tried all the network/wireless network options under xp. Made
> changes to settings on router etc.
>
> I can't see where I am going wrong !
>
> All i want to do is share my desktop hard drive and printer !
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kev
>
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From:
Kevin Cole <kcsoftware@dsl.pipex.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Router Faulty ? ?
Date:
04/29/2007 03:07:01
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <Jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
news:e1ZYKJdiHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
> settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment
> of each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
> Basic XP -
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
> Advanced XP -
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Printer Sharing XP -
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Kevin Cole" <kcsoftware@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:%23HAK4fciHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Scenario.
>>
>> 1. I have a desktop connected to adsl via a d-link wireless router.
Fine
>> no problems.
>> 2. My wireless laptop can connect to router and browse web etc. Fine no
>> problems.
>>
>> Problem.
>>
>> No matter what I try and do I can not get desktop to communicated with
>> laptop ?
>>
>> I've tried all the network/wireless network options under xp. Made
>> changes to settings on router etc.
>>
>> I can't see where I am going wrong !
>>
>> All i want to do is share my desktop hard drive and printer !
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kev
>>
>
>
enabled print & file shae ok,
i have norton fire wall on both machines, enabling the ip addresses through
?
any ideas ?
kev
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Setting up wireless router as a simple switch
Date:
05/15/2007 14:42:36
tbgNick@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a Comcast SMC8013WG router and a Cisco 2950 switch and running
> that order to a Linksys WRT54G router. All I need is wireless
> IPs....what do I need to change in the router to get a connection from
> the Comcast modem or Cisco switch? I can't even get a connection wired
> in.
>
1. do not use the WAN jack on the WRT54G
2. connect the WRT54G to the switch or router using one of its LAN jacks
3. set the WRT54G LAN IP to the correct subnet used by the DHCP server
in your SMC8013WG
4. disable the DHCP server in the WRT54G
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
<schtumm@googlemail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Setting up with Alcatel Speedtouch modem and Linksys WRT54G HELP
Date:
04/17/2007 14:07:01
On Feb 28, 10:14 pm, Lem <lem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> scht...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Hi
>
> > Having problems. Have got a broadband internet connection with Pipex
> > using an Alcatel Speedtouch 330 Modem which connects direct to phone
> > line and then to my computer via USB.
>
> > Have just bought a Linksys WRT54G wireless router but don't know how
> > to connect the 2 together to use wireless at home as all the
> > connections on the Linksys are Ethernet network sockets and the
> > Alcatel has only the USB connection.
>
> > Hopefully I can get these 2 working together?!
>
> > Do I need a new modem!?
>
> > Please help!
>
> > Thanks!!
>
> Ideally, yes. Perhaps you can persuade Pipex to exchange the Speedtouch
> 330 for one with an Ethernet connection.
>
> If you have an Ethernet adapter in your main computer (almost all do,
> these days), it is possible to have the Speedtouch 330 connected by USB
> to your main computer and then share that Internet connection over the
> computer's Ethernet adapter to the WRT54G and thence to other wireless
> clients (using Windows Internet Connection Sharing). You would be
> losing some of the functionality of the WRT54G that you paid for, and
> you would have to leave your main computer turned on in order for any
> wireless computers to be able to access the Internet this way.
>
> You would be better off getting a DSL modem that connects via Ethernet.
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of
ROM.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
Hi all,
Thanks so much for your replies. In the end I got hold of a Modem/
Router in one and it works great.
Just have to now sell my now useless seperate USB modem and stand
alone router!
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing Files
Date:
05/03/2007 21:08:13
Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of
each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"gderit" <gderit@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E25B6321-7304-4B4A-839F-CA874F751B68@microsoft.com...
>I can access one computer but I can not access the other? I get this error
> message (the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this
> computer)? Any suggestions?
>
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From:
Robert L [MVP - Networking] <noreply@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing Files
Date:
05/03/2007 21:25:45
?
I would check the firewall first. Or this troubleshooting may help,
Access issues
"computername is not accessible. No permission to access the resources" ...
Message: "....is not accessible. You may not have permission to use this network
...
http://www.chicagotech.net/accesserrors.htm
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"gderit" <gderit@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E25B6321-7304-4B4A-839F-CA874F751B68@microsoft.com...
I can access one computer but I can not access the other? I get this error
message (the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this
computer)? Any suggestions?
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From:
Robert L [MVP - Networking] <noreply@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 08:42:04
We nevermore information to help. Posting the result of ipconfig /all on both
ICS host and client may help.
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:OpfvHOVlHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I set up two networks in my house. One is LAN 192.168.0.0/25 the other is
WLAN 192.168.0.128/25. One of the computers (the only one with Vista) is
connected to both of them and is connected to internet using ADSL modem
connected to USB. Thing is I want to share internet connection with both of
those networks. When I was using Win XP I simply used ICS to share it on LAN
and manually set IP address, default gateway and DNS server address an all
computers using my WLAN network. Everything was working fine. Now there is a
problem. I've tried doing the same in Vista. ICS is working OK but no
computer is able connect to the internet using WLAN. When I ping something
in the internet using WLAN network there is no answer. Computers in both
networks see each other. An obvious solution is creation of network bridge
but I don't want to do it. Vista seems to be blocking something and I don't
know what.
Rafa³
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 10:01:15
Hi
Your statement of two Networks is not clear, in order to share Internet
connection the computers has to be on the same Network and use IPs that are
within ICS specs.
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/1720eb43-62cb-4327-9f26-8d7401d526531033.mspx?mfr=true
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:OpfvHOVlHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I set up two networks in my house. One is LAN 192.168.0.0/25 the other is
>WLAN 192.168.0.128/25. One of the computers (the only one with Vista) is
>connected to both of them and is connected to internet using ADSL modem
>connected to USB. Thing is I want to share internet connection with both of
>those networks. When I was using Win XP I simply used ICS to share it on
>LAN and manually set IP address, default gateway and DNS server address an
>all computers using my WLAN network. Everything was working fine. Now there
>is a problem. I've tried doing the same in Vista. ICS is working OK but no
>computer is able connect to the internet using WLAN. When I ping something
>in the internet using WLAN network there is no answer. Computers in both
>networks see each other. An obvious solution is creation of network bridge
>but I don't want to do it. Vista seems to be blocking something and I don't
>know what.
>
> Rafa³
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From:
Rafal Zieba <rafal.zieba@wp.pl>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 12:27:10
You don't undertand what the problem is.
Computer 1 (Vista) Internet connection is ok:
LAN (ICS Host)
IP address: 192.168.0.1
subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
WLAN
IP address: 192.168.0.129
subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
Computer 2 (XP) Internet connection is ok:
LAN (ICS Client)
IP address: 192.168.0.2
subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
gateway: 192.168.0.1
Computer 3 (XP) No internet connection:
WLAN
IP address: 192.168.0.132
subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
gateway: 192.168.0.129
When there was Win XP on Computer 1 all I had to do was manualy seting up IP
address of DNS server on Computer 3 and I had internet connetion there. Now
it is no longer working. Why? I know I could set up a network bridge on
Computer 1 but I don't want to.
I can ping both Computer 1 and Computer 2 from Computer 3 but when I'm
trying to ping something in the internet there is no answer.
Rafa³
> Your statement of two Networks is not clear, in order to share Internet
> connection the computers has to be on the same Network and use IPs that
> are within ICS specs.
>
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/1720eb43-62cb-4327-9f26-8d7401d526531033.mspx?mfr=true
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:OpfvHOVlHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I set up two networks in my house. One is LAN 192.168.0.0/25 the other is
>>WLAN 192.168.0.128/25. One of the computers (the only one with Vista) is
>>connected to both of them and is connected to internet using ADSL modem
>>connected to USB. Thing is I want to share internet connection with both
>>of those networks. When I was using Win XP I simply used ICS to share it
>>on LAN and manually set IP address, default gateway and DNS server address
>>an all computers using my WLAN network. Everything was working fine. Now
>>there is a problem. I've tried doing the same in Vista. ICS is working OK
>>but no computer is able connect to the internet using WLAN. When I ping
>>something in the internet using WLAN network there is no answer. Computers
>>in both networks see each other. An obvious solution is creation of
>>network bridge but I don't want to do it. Vista seems to be blocking
>>something and I don't know what.
>>
>> Rafa³
>
>
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From:
Jim <j.n@nospam.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 14:20:51
"Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:ejd75PYlHHA.1624@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> You don't undertand what the problem is.
I don't see any address in this list which is routable.
If I understand your post:
The WLAN address for computer 1 of 192.168.0.129 is not routable.
The WLAN address for computer 3 of 192.168.0.132 is also not routable.
So, what connects your lan to the internet? What is its address on the
internet?
Jim
>
> Computer 1 (Vista) Internet connection is ok:
> LAN (ICS Host)
> IP address: 192.168.0.1
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>
> WLAN
> IP address: 192.168.0.129
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>
> Computer 2 (XP) Internet connection is ok:
> LAN (ICS Client)
> IP address: 192.168.0.2
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
> gateway: 192.168.0.1
>
> Computer 3 (XP) No internet connection:
> WLAN
> IP address: 192.168.0.132
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
> gateway: 192.168.0.129
>
> When there was Win XP on Computer 1 all I had to do was manualy seting up
> IP address of DNS server on Computer 3 and I had internet connetion there.
> Now it is no longer working. Why? I know I could set up a network bridge
> on Computer 1 but I don't want to.
>
> I can ping both Computer 1 and Computer 2 from Computer 3 but when I'm
> trying to ping something in the internet there is no answer.
>
> Rafa³
>
>> Your statement of two Networks is not clear, in order to share Internet
>> connection the computers has to be on the same Network and use IPs that
>> are within ICS specs.
>>
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/1720eb43-62cb-4327-9f26-8d7401d526531033.mspx?mfr=true
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> news:OpfvHOVlHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I set up two networks in my house. One is LAN 192.168.0.0/25 the other is
>>>WLAN 192.168.0.128/25. One of the computers (the only one with Vista) is
>>>connected to both of them and is connected to internet using ADSL modem
>>>connected to USB. Thing is I want to share internet connection with both
>>>of those networks. When I was using Win XP I simply used ICS to share it
>>>on LAN and manually set IP address, default gateway and DNS server
>>>address an all computers using my WLAN network. Everything was working
>>>fine. Now there is a problem. I've tried doing the same in Vista. ICS is
>>>working OK but no computer is able connect to the internet using WLAN.
>>>When I ping something in the internet using WLAN network there is no
>>>answer. Computers in both networks see each other. An obvious solution is
>>>creation of network bridge but I don't want to do it. Vista seems to be
>>>blocking something and I don't know what.
>>>
>>> Rafa³
>>
>>
>
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From:
Rafal Zieba <rafal.zieba@wp.pl>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 14:34:14
I have ADSL modem connected via USB to Computer 1. My IP address changes
every time I connect to the internet. Now it is 83.27.6.38. My point is such
configuration was working when I had Windows XP on Computer 1 - now it is
not.
>> You don't undertand what the problem is.
> I don't see any address in this list which is routable.
> If I understand your post:
>
> The WLAN address for computer 1 of 192.168.0.129 is not routable.
>
> The WLAN address for computer 3 of 192.168.0.132 is also not routable.
>
> So, what connects your lan to the internet? What is its address on the
> internet?
>
> Jim
>>
>> Computer 1 (Vista) Internet connection is ok:
>> LAN (ICS Host)
>> IP address: 192.168.0.1
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>
>> WLAN
>> IP address: 192.168.0.129
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>
>> Computer 2 (XP) Internet connection is ok:
>> LAN (ICS Client)
>> IP address: 192.168.0.2
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>> gateway: 192.168.0.1
>>
>> Computer 3 (XP) No internet connection:
>> WLAN
>> IP address: 192.168.0.132
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>> gateway: 192.168.0.129
>>
>> When there was Win XP on Computer 1 all I had to do was manualy seting up
>> IP address of DNS server on Computer 3 and I had internet connetion
>> there. Now it is no longer working. Why? I know I could set up a network
>> bridge on Computer 1 but I don't want to.
>>
>> I can ping both Computer 1 and Computer 2 from Computer 3 but when I'm
>> trying to ping something in the internet there is no answer.
>>
>> Rafa³
>>
>>> Your statement of two Networks is not clear, in order to share Internet
>>> connection the computers has to be on the same Network and use IPs that
>>> are within ICS specs.
>>>
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/1720eb43-62cb-4327-9f26-8d7401d526531033.mspx?mfr=true
>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>> "Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
>>> news:OpfvHOVlHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I set up two networks in my house. One is LAN 192.168.0.0/25 the other
>>>>is WLAN 192.168.0.128/25. One of the computers (the only one with Vista)
>>>>is connected to both of them and is connected to internet using ADSL
>>>>modem connected to USB. Thing is I want to share internet connection
>>>>with both of those networks. When I was using Win XP I simply used ICS
>>>>to share it on LAN and manually set IP address, default gateway and DNS
>>>>server address an all computers using my WLAN network. Everything was
>>>>working fine. Now there is a problem. I've tried doing the same in
>>>>Vista. ICS is working OK but no computer is able connect to the internet
>>>>using WLAN. When I ping something in the internet using WLAN network
>>>>there is no answer. Computers in both networks see each other. An
>>>>obvious solution is creation of network bridge but I don't want to do
>>>>it. Vista seems to be blocking something and I don't know what.
>>>>
>>>> Rafa³
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 16:10:41
Rafa³ Ziêba wrote:
> You don't undertand what the problem is.
>
> Computer 1 (Vista) Internet connection is ok:
> LAN (ICS Host)
> IP address: 192.168.0.1
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>
> WLAN
> IP address: 192.168.0.129
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>
> Computer 2 (XP) Internet connection is ok:
> LAN (ICS Client)
> IP address: 192.168.0.2
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
> gateway: 192.168.0.1
>
> Computer 3 (XP) No internet connection:
> WLAN
> IP address: 192.168.0.132
> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
> gateway: 192.168.0.129
>
> When there was Win XP on Computer 1 all I had to do was manualy seting
> up IP address of DNS server on Computer 3 and I had internet connetion
> there. Now it is no longer working. Why? I know I could set up a network
> bridge on Computer 1 but I don't want to.
>
> I can ping both Computer 1 and Computer 2 from Computer 3 but when I'm
> trying to ping something in the internet there is no answer.
>
> Rafa³
>
>> Your statement of two Networks is not clear, in order to share
>> Internet connection the computers has to be on the same Network and
>> use IPs that are within ICS specs.
>>
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/1720eb43-62cb-4327-9f26-8d7401d526531033.mspx?mfr=true
>>
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Rafa³ Ziêba" <rafal.zieba@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> news:OpfvHOVlHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I set up two networks in my house. One is LAN 192.168.0.0/25 the
>>> other is WLAN 192.168.0.128/25. One of the computers (the only one
>>> with Vista) is connected to both of them and is connected to internet
>>> using ADSL modem connected to USB. Thing is I want to share internet
>>> connection with both of those networks. When I was using Win XP I
>>> simply used ICS to share it on LAN and manually set IP address,
>>> default gateway and DNS server address an all computers using my WLAN
>>> network. Everything was working fine. Now there is a problem. I've
>>> tried doing the same in Vista. ICS is working OK but no computer is
>>> able connect to the internet using WLAN. When I ping something in the
>>> internet using WLAN network there is no answer. Computers in both
>>> networks see each other. An obvious solution is creation of network
>>> bridge but I don't want to do it. Vista seems to be blocking
>>> something and I don't know what.
>>>
>>> Rafa³
>>
>>
>
I don't know why you have those odd subnet masks, but if you change the
gateway of computer 3 to 192.168.0.1 you probably will be able to
connect to the Internet.
--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Rafal Zieba <rafal.zieba@wp.pl>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/13/2007 17:58:52
>> You don't undertand what the problem is.
>>
>> Computer 1 (Vista) Internet connection is ok:
>> LAN (ICS Host)
>> IP address: 192.168.0.1
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>
>> WLAN
>> IP address: 192.168.0.129
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>
>> Computer 2 (XP) Internet connection is ok:
>> LAN (ICS Client)
>> IP address: 192.168.0.2
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>> gateway: 192.168.0.1
>>
>> Computer 3 (XP) No internet connection:
>> WLAN
>> IP address: 192.168.0.132
>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>> gateway: 192.168.0.129
>>
>> When there was Win XP on Computer 1 all I had to do was manualy seting up
>> IP address of DNS server on Computer 3 and I had internet connetion
>> there. Now it is no longer working. Why? I know I could set up a network
>> bridge on Computer 1 but I don't want to.
>>
>> I can ping both Computer 1 and Computer 2 from Computer 3 but when I'm
>> trying to ping something in the internet there is no answer.
>>
> I don't know why you have those odd subnet masks, but if you change the
> gateway of computer 3 to 192.168.0.1 you probably will be able to connect
> to the Internet.
Those settings may be odd but they are correct. Changing gateway was a good
idea but I'm still not able to connect to internet. I can ping any computer
from any other so the problem is in settings of Computer 1, most likely in
default settings of Vista which as I think are diffrent from those of XP. It
seems like a routing problem to me but it's working for LAN subnetwork so I
don't know why i wouldn't be working for WLAN as well. It's posible there is
a firewall in place but it's not working even when I disable Windows
Firewall.
I think it would be better to decide if we answer on top or at the bottom of
the message.
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing internet connection in Vista
Date:
05/14/2007 09:45:34
Rafa³ Ziêba wrote:
>>> You don't undertand what the problem is.
>>>
>>> Computer 1 (Vista) Internet connection is ok:
>>> LAN (ICS Host)
>>> IP address: 192.168.0.1
>>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>>
>>> WLAN
>>> IP address: 192.168.0.129
>>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>>
>>> Computer 2 (XP) Internet connection is ok:
>>> LAN (ICS Client)
>>> IP address: 192.168.0.2
>>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>> gateway: 192.168.0.1
>>>
>>> Computer 3 (XP) No internet connection:
>>> WLAN
>>> IP address: 192.168.0.132
>>> subnet mask: 255.255.255.128
>>> gateway: 192.168.0.129
>>>
>>> When there was Win XP on Computer 1 all I had to do was manualy
>>> seting up IP address of DNS server on Computer 3 and I had internet
>>> connetion there. Now it is no longer working. Why? I know I could set
>>> up a network bridge on Computer 1 but I don't want to.
>>>
>>> I can ping both Computer 1 and Computer 2 from Computer 3 but when
>>> I'm trying to ping something in the internet there is no answer.
>>>
>> I don't know why you have those odd subnet masks, but if you change
>> the gateway of computer 3 to 192.168.0.1 you probably will be able to
>> connect to the Internet.
>
> Those settings may be odd but they are correct. Changing gateway was a
> good idea but I'm still not able to connect to internet. I can ping any
> computer from any other so the problem is in settings of Computer 1,
> most likely in default settings of Vista which as I think are diffrent
> from those of XP. It seems like a routing problem to me but it's working
> for LAN subnetwork so I don't know why i wouldn't be working for WLAN as
> well. It's posible there is a firewall in place but it's not working
> even when I disable Windows Firewall.
>
> I think it would be better to decide if we answer on top or at the
> bottom of the message.
The reason why Internet access is working from the LAN but not from the
WLAN is because all of the LAN connections are on the same subnet
(192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.127) as the default gateway
(192.168.0.1). The WLAN, however, is a different subnet (192.168.0.129
through 192.168.0.255), and thus cannot communicate with the gateway.
If setting the default gateway of your computer 3 WLAN adapter to
192.168.0.1 didn't work (and I can see why it might not), try setting
the default gateway of the WLAN adapter on computer 1 to 192.168.0.1.
If that doesn't work, there are 3 options:
- put everything on the same subnet
- bridge the WLAN and LAN adapters on computer 1
- create an appropriate entry in the routing table on computer 1
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing Printers
Date:
05/14/2007 20:12:44
Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
settings,http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Lee NYC" <Lee NYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0AAFF5D7-0076-4F88-A71E-3A01BA4697AF@microsoft.com...
>I would like to use the home network to print away from the printer.
Under
> printers and faxes, the designated printer says offline. How do I fix
> this?
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From:
Tony Luxton <s.a.luxtonDELETETHIS@talk21.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Sharing Printers
Date:
05/15/2007 06:57:58
Open the printer, click "printer, use printer off-line" to remove the tick.
HTH Tony.
"Lee NYC" <Lee NYC@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0AAFF5D7-0076-4F88-A71E-3A01BA4697AF@microsoft.com...
>I would like to use the home network to print away from the printer.
Under
> printers and faxes, the designated printer says offline. How do I fix
> this?
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Shows As Not Connected But Is Connected
Date:
05/02/2007 09:18:24
Dell Boy wrote:
> I am connected to the main wireless network I use but the wireless icon in
> the system tray is showing that I do not have a wireless connection, i.e.
> there is a red cross next to it. When I click "View Available Wireless
> Networks" the Wireless Network Connection window shows a status of "Not
> Connected" alongside the network I am connected to and the button at the
> bottom righthand corner of the Windows says "Disconnect".
>
> I find this quite confusing as I am never quite sure if I am connected or
> not. Can anyone suggest a solution?
First you write that you ARE connected and then you write that you
aren't sure if you are connected. Can you access the Internet? Ping the
router or another computer on the network? If not, why do you think you
are connected?
If in fact you are connected but you see the "not connected" icon and
status you describe, you may have two wireless configuration utilities
running simultaneously, and you should disable one of them. See
http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Dell Boy <Dell Boy@newsgroup.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Shows As Not Connected But Is Connected
Date:
05/02/2007 11:54:01
Thanks for replying.
I'm definitely connected, I'm just confused visually by the red cross by the
wireless connection icon in the system tray.
Yes the Dell wireless utility is running, as it has been for the last two
years since I got the laptop, but I use Windows to manage my wireless
connections and have never had this problem before.
"Lem" wrote:
> Dell Boy wrote:
> > I am connected to the main wireless network I use but the wireless icon in
> > the system tray is showing that I do not have a wireless connection, i.e.
> > there is a red cross next to it. When I click "View Available Wireless
> > Networks" the Wireless Network Connection window shows a status of "Not
> > Connected" alongside the network I am connected to and the button at the
> > bottom righthand corner of the Windows says "Disconnect".
> >
> > I find this quite confusing as I am never quite sure if I am connected or
> > not. Can anyone suggest a solution?
>
> First you write that you ARE connected and then you write that you
> aren't sure if you are connected. Can you access the Internet? Ping the
> router or another computer on the network? If not, why do you think you
> are connected?
>
> If in fact you are connected but you see the "not connected" icon and
> status you describe, you may have two wireless configuration utilities
> running simultaneously, and you should disable one of them. See
> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>
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From:
Dell Boy <Dell Boy@newsgroup.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Shows As Not Connected But Is Connected
Date:
05/02/2007 11:58:01
To clarify my last comment that I use Windows to manage my wireless
connection, I mean that the Windows Zero Configuration service is started and
is set to automatic startup.
"Lem" wrote:
> Dell Boy wrote:
> > I am connected to the main wireless network I use but the wireless icon in
> > the system tray is showing that I do not have a wireless connection, i.e.
> > there is a red cross next to it. When I click "View Available Wireless
> > Networks" the Wireless Network Connection window shows a status of "Not
> > Connected" alongside the network I am connected to and the button at the
> > bottom righthand corner of the Windows says "Disconnect".
> >
> > I find this quite confusing as I am never quite sure if I am connected or
> > not. Can anyone suggest a solution?
>
> First you write that you ARE connected and then you write that you
> aren't sure if you are connected. Can you access the Internet? Ping the
> router or another computer on the network? If not, why do you think you
> are connected?
>
> If in fact you are connected but you see the "not connected" icon and
> status you describe, you may have two wireless configuration utilities
> running simultaneously, and you should disable one of them. See
> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Shows As Not Connected But Is Connected
Date:
05/02/2007 12:12:11
Dell Boy wrote:
> To clarify my last comment that I use Windows to manage my wireless
> connection, I mean that the Windows Zero Configuration service is started and
> is set to automatic startup.
>
> "Lem" wrote:
>
>> Dell Boy wrote:
>>> I am connected to the main wireless network I use but the wireless icon in
>>> the system tray is showing that I do not have a wireless connection, i.e.
>>> there is a red cross next to it. When I click "View Available Wireless
>>> Networks" the Wireless Network Connection window shows a status of "Not
>>> Connected" alongside the network I am connected to and the button at the
>>> bottom righthand corner of the Windows says "Disconnect".
>>>
>>> I find this quite confusing as I am never quite sure if I am connected or
>>> not. Can anyone suggest a solution?
>> First you write that you ARE connected and then you write that you
>> aren't sure if you are connected. Can you access the Internet? Ping the
>> router or another computer on the network? If not, why do you think you
>> are connected?
>>
>> If in fact you are connected but you see the "not connected" icon and
>> status you describe, you may have two wireless configuration utilities
>> running simultaneously, and you should disable one of them. See
>> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>>
>> --
>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>
WZC has been updated from time to time (by Windows Update). Perhaps
something has changed that now doesn't get along as well as before with
the Dell utility. There isn't any good reason to have to configuration
utilities running at the same time, and it may lead to problems. Stop
one of them and see if that clears up your problem.
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Dell Boy <Dell Boy@newsgroup.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Shows As Not Connected But Is Connected
Date:
05/07/2007 06:51:00
I believe I have replicated this issue and found a solution.
In my testing, this issue was caused when a Win XP SP2 machine established
an automatic connection to a wireless network secured with WPA-PSK and the
security was then removed from the wireless network. Each time that the Win
XP SP2 machine connected to the wireless network after the WPA-PSK security
had been removed the symptoms I described in my post above were experienced.
This happened across various vendors machines, various vendors wireless
adapters and both with and without the vendor's wireless utility installed.
To resolve this issue (assumes you are using Windows to manage your wireless
connections0:
1. Right click the windows wireless network in the system tray, click "View
Available Wireless Networks" and then click "Change Advanced Settings"
(bottom right corner of the Window).
2. Click the "Wireless Networks" tab and remove the wireless network from
the Preferred networks list and reboot the machine.
3. Re-connect to the wireless network.
After re-connecting the issue was resolved.
Hope this helps someone.
"Lem" wrote:
> Dell Boy wrote:
> > To clarify my last comment that I use Windows to manage my wireless
> > connection, I mean that the Windows Zero Configuration service is started
and
> > is set to automatic startup.
> >
> > "Lem" wrote:
> >
> >> Dell Boy wrote:
> >>> I am connected to the main wireless network I use but the wireless icon in
> >>> the system tray is showing that I do not have a wireless connection, i.e.
> >>> there is a red cross next to it. When I click "View Available Wireless
> >>> Networks" the Wireless Network Connection window shows a status of "Not
> >>> Connected" alongside the network I am connected to and the button at the
> >>> bottom righthand corner of the Windows says "Disconnect".
> >>>
> >>> I find this quite confusing as I am never quite sure if I am connected or
> >>> not. Can anyone suggest a solution?
> >> First you write that you ARE connected and then you write that you
> >> aren't sure if you are connected. Can you access the Internet? Ping
the
> >> router or another computer on the network? If not, why do you think
you
> >> are connected?
> >>
> >> If in fact you are connected but you see the "not connected" icon and
> >> status you describe, you may have two wireless configuration utilities
> >> running simultaneously, and you should disable one of them. See
> >> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
> >>
> >> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> >>
>
> WZC has been updated from time to time (by Windows Update). Perhaps
> something has changed that now doesn't get along as well as before with
> the Dell utility. There isn't any good reason to have to configuration
> utilities running at the same time, and it may lead to problems. Stop
> one of them and see if that clears up your problem.
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Shows As Not Connected But Is Connected
Date:
05/07/2007 08:54:41
Glad you got things sorted out. Thanks for the feedback.
Dell Boy wrote:
> I believe I have replicated this issue and found a solution.
>
> In my testing, this issue was caused when a Win XP SP2 machine established
> an automatic connection to a wireless network secured with WPA-PSK and the
> security was then removed from the wireless network. Each time that the Win
> XP SP2 machine connected to the wireless network after the WPA-PSK security
> had been removed the symptoms I described in my post above were experienced.
> This happened across various vendors machines, various vendors wireless
> adapters and both with and without the vendor's wireless utility installed.
>
> To resolve this issue (assumes you are using Windows to manage your wireless
> connections0:
>
> 1. Right click the windows wireless network in the system tray, click "View
> Available Wireless Networks" and then click "Change Advanced Settings"
> (bottom right corner of the Window).
>
> 2. Click the "Wireless Networks" tab and remove the wireless network from
> the Preferred networks list and reboot the machine.
>
> 3. Re-connect to the wireless network.
>
> After re-connecting the issue was resolved.
>
> Hope this helps someone.
>
>
> "Lem" wrote:
>
>> Dell Boy wrote:
>>> To clarify my last comment that I use Windows to manage my wireless
>>> connection, I mean that the Windows Zero Configuration service is started
and
>>> is set to automatic startup.
>>>
>>> "Lem" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dell Boy wrote:
>>>>> I am connected to the main wireless network I use but the wireless icon in
>>>>> the system tray is showing that I do not have a wireless connection, i.e.
>>>>> there is a red cross next to it. When I click "View Available Wireless
>>>>> Networks" the Wireless Network Connection window shows a status of "Not
>>>>> Connected" alongside the network I am connected to and the button at the
>>>>> bottom righthand corner of the Windows says "Disconnect".
>>>>>
>>>>> I find this quite confusing as I am never quite sure if I am connected or
>>>>> not. Can anyone suggest a solution?
>>>> First you write that you ARE connected and then you write that you
>>>> aren't sure if you are connected. Can you access the Internet? Ping
the
>>>> router or another computer on the network? If not, why do you think
you
>>>> are connected?
>>>>
>>>> If in fact you are connected but you see the "not connected" icon and
>>>> status you describe, you may have two wireless configuration utilities
>>>> running simultaneously, and you should disable one of them. See
>>>> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>>>
>>>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>>>
>> WZC has been updated from time to time (by Windows Update). Perhaps
>> something has changed that now doesn't get along as well as before with
>> the Dell utility. There isn't any good reason to have to configuration
>> utilities running at the same time, and it may lead to problems. Stop
>> one of them and see if that clears up your problem.
>>
>> --
>> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
paulibus <paulibus@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: somewhat different kind of network question
Date:
05/08/2007 15:03:01
You do not need a router. Once the network is set up, your kid's pc would
connect to your ssid. Then they could use a remote connection to your pc
and
access the internet. If you have set up a wired network, setting up a wifi
shouldn't be a problem.
Paul Shafer, MCDST
"John" wrote:
> Can I wireless network two machines, without a router?
>
> I have done it with wired connections, using crossover cables. Can
> wireless NICs communicate with each other, or do they require a
> router?
>
> On top of just curiosity, my Windows 2000 PC in my home office has
> broadband access, and my kid's machine elsewhere in the house, runs XP
> and connects via a modem. If I could give them broadband through my
> machine's network card, using wireless from their's to mine, then I
> would have the added benefit of controlling when they can use the high
> speed connections.
>
> Anyway, all that aside, can their PC talk to mine, via wireless, just
> using wireless NICs?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
>
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: somewhat different kind of network question
Date:
05/07/2007 22:39:33
John wrote:
> Can I wireless network two machines, without a router?
>
> I have done it with wired connections, using crossover cables. Can
> wireless NICs communicate with each other, or do they require a
> router?
>
> On top of just curiosity, my Windows 2000 PC in my home office has
> broadband access, and my kid's machine elsewhere in the house, runs XP
> and connects via a modem. If I could give them broadband through my
> machine's network card, using wireless from their's to mine, then I
> would have the added benefit of controlling when they can use the high
> speed connections.
>
> Anyway, all that aside, can their PC talk to mine, via wireless, just
> using wireless NICs?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
You can connect two Windows boxes together using wireless NICs without a
router. This is called an ad hoc connection. See
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02april08.mspx
Assuming that your Win2k box has two network connections, one to your
broadband service and the other (wireless) to your kid's XP box, you can
share your broadband using Windows Internet Connection Service (ICS).
That is also covered in Barb Bowman's column (linked above).
--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
John <ewsnet@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: somewhat different kind of network question
Date:
05/08/2007 09:13:57
On May 7, 9:39 pm, Lem <lem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> John wrote:
> > Can I wireless network two machines, without a router?
>
> > I have done it with wired connections, using crossover cables.
Can
> > wireless NICs communicate with each other, or do they require a
> > router?
>
> > On top of just curiosity, my Windows 2000 PC in my home office has
> > broadband access, and my kid's machine elsewhere in the house, runs XP
> > and connects via a modem. If I could give them broadband through my
> > machine's network card, using wireless from their's to mine, then I
> > would have the added benefit of controlling when they can use the high
> > speed connections.
>
> > Anyway, all that aside, can their PC talk to mine, via wireless, just
> > using wireless NICs?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > John
>
> You can connect two Windows boxes together using wireless NICs without a
> router. This is called an ad hoc connection.
Seehttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02a...
>
> Assuming that your Win2k box has two network connections, one to your
> broadband service and the other (wireless) to your kid's XP box, you can
> share your broadband using Windows Internet Connection Service (ICS).
> That is also covered in Barb Bowman's column (linked above).
Thanks Lem, that is just what I was looking for.
Much obliged for your time,
John
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: somewhat different kind of network question
Date:
05/08/2007 14:29:21
John wrote:
> On May 7, 9:39 pm, Lem <lem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>> Can I wireless network two machines, without a router?
>>> I have done it with wired connections, using crossover cables.
Can
>>> wireless NICs communicate with each other, or do they require a
>>> router?
>>> On top of just curiosity, my Windows 2000 PC in my home office has
>>> broadband access, and my kid's machine elsewhere in the house, runs XP
>>> and connects via a modem. If I could give them broadband through my
>>> machine's network card, using wireless from their's to mine, then I
>>> would have the added benefit of controlling when they can use the high
>>> speed connections.
>>> Anyway, all that aside, can their PC talk to mine, via wireless, just
>>> using wireless NICs?
>>> Thanks.
>>> John
>> You can connect two Windows boxes together using wireless NICs without a
>> router. This is called an ad hoc connection.
Seehttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02a...
>>
>> Assuming that your Win2k box has two network connections, one to your
>> broadband service and the other (wireless) to your kid's XP box, you can
>> share your broadband using Windows Internet Connection Service (ICS).
>> That is also covered in Barb Bowman's column (linked above).
>
> Thanks Lem, that is just what I was looking for.
>
> Much obliged for your time,
>
> John
>
You're welcome.
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Sean from the Sunshine Coast
<SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Tampered with create Network - Now Wireless signal on but no I
Date:
05/10/2007 19:46:01
Thanks Jack,
I've tried following these links and one of the webpages illustrating an
Example of what I should see on my Network Connection Settings:
http://www.ezlan.net/example/tcp-ip.jpg
It shows that if I select Properties, another window titled "Internet
Protocol (TCP/IP) Properties should appear.
However, this does not appear on my PC. Instead when I select Properties, a
window titled "Client for Microsoft Networks Properties" appears. It contains
one single tab titled "RPC Service".
Then below a statement "The name service provider and network address can be
changed for the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) service.
Then below two boxes.
The first: titled "Name service provider" with a drop down option of either
Windows Locator; or
DCE Cell Directory Service
If I select "DCE Cell Directory Service" then the second box below entitled
"Network Address" previously unshaded becomes available to enter figures and
now requires a figure to be entered.
Is this an important anomaly that in solving will solve the whole problem?
What do I do next?
Cheers
Sean
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> Hi
> If the wire part connect to the Internet and the Wireless Not. It means that
> you do not have a real connection between the Wireless computer and the
> Wireless Router. The IPs that you mentioned indicate a problem, an IP of
> 10.0.0.x can not work together with IP 192.168.0.x
> May be this can Help.
> My New Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
> Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
> Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
> <SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3C06616A-17FD-4E49-B00E-501926A734B3@microsoft.com...
> > I'm obviously not meant to be a computer programmer.
> >
> > I have a wireless broadband router for the home for my PC.
> >
> > My friend had her PC here, and I thought I'd link up our two PCs by the
> > "create wireless home network" function - just so I could transfer to her
> > a
> > bunch of music.
> >
> > After messing about for ages, I wasn't able to do it successfully (so
> > complicated a process just to get two Computers to network!! or at least,
> > I
> > think it is, because I've never been able to do it... you might wonder,
> > why
> > do I keep trying?). So I gave up after two hours!!
> >
> > HERE IS THE PROBLEM: after mucking around for ages, it turns out that I
> > somehow managed to disable both our computers from being able to access
> > the
> > internet by wireless!!
> >
> > NOTE: linking by the ethernet cable straight into the router, access to
> > the
> > internet is perfect (just when I take out the cable and rely on the
> > wireless
> > system, it no longer works, whereas before it did work)
> >
> > The Wireless Network Connection icon shows that we are still connected to
> > the wireless router. However, I'm guessing there is a disconnect in the PC
> > configuration now that links the browsers to the wireless.
> >
> > I have run a Networking Diagnostic Test which shows two FAILs:
> >
> > (1) Network Adapters / 00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
> > Connection -
> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
FAILED
> >
> > (2)
> > IP Address FAILED
> > [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (FAILED)
> > IPAddress = 10.0.0.2 (FAILED)
> > Pinging 10.0.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Ping statistics for 10.0.0.2:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> > [00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (FAILED)
> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> >
> > I'm not sure what all this means, but they both seem to have to do with a
> > single setting which I don't know how to correct.
> >
> > Am I on the right track?
> >
> > In any case, any helpful advice that could fix this would be wildly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Regards
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From:
Sean from the Sunshine Coast
<SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Tampered with create Network - Now Wireless signal on but no I
Date:
05/10/2007 19:36:00
Hi Jim,
Thank you for advising me that these two addresses are not routable and that
therefore the computers can't connect.
Now I've confessed I got lost following the Microsoft Wizards in creating
this problem.
So the question is... how do I fix it?
You are quite correct, they didn't come out of clear blue sky... I was
trying to follow the Microsoft Wizards to create a Network Connection between
two home computers and I got lost somewhere or did something that must have
established these settings.
The question is that... given I have no idea how I got there... do you or
anyone else know how can I fix it?
"Jim" wrote:
>
> "Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
> <SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3C06616A-17FD-4E49-B00E-501926A734B3@microsoft.com...
> > I'm obviously not meant to be a computer programmer.
> >
> > I have a wireless broadband router for the home for my PC.
> >
> > My friend had her PC here, and I thought I'd link up our two PCs by the
> > "create wireless home network" function - just so I could transfer to her
> > a
> > bunch of music.
> >
> > After messing about for ages, I wasn't able to do it successfully (so
> > complicated a process just to get two Computers to network!! or at least,
> > I
> > think it is, because I've never been able to do it... you might wonder,
> > why
> > do I keep trying?). So I gave up after two hours!!
> >
> > HERE IS THE PROBLEM: after mucking around for ages, it turns out that I
> > somehow managed to disable both our computers from being able to access
> > the
> > internet by wireless!!
> >
> > NOTE: linking by the ethernet cable straight into the router, access to
> > the
> > internet is perfect (just when I take out the cable and rely on the
> > wireless
> > system, it no longer works, whereas before it did work)
> >
> > The Wireless Network Connection icon shows that we are still connected to
> > the wireless router. However, I'm guessing there is a disconnect in the PC
> > configuration now that links the browsers to the wireless.
> >
> > I have run a Networking Diagnostic Test which shows two FAILs:
> >
> > (1) Network Adapters / 00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
> > Connection -
> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
FAILED
> >
> > (2)
> > IP Address FAILED
> > [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (FAILED)
> > IPAddress = 10.0.0.2 (FAILED)
> > Pinging 10.0.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Ping statistics for 10.0.0.2:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> > [00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (FAILED)
> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Request timed out.
> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> >
> > I'm not sure what all this means, but they both seem to have to do with a
> > single setting which I don't know how to correct.
> >
> > Am I on the right track?
> >
> > In any case, any helpful advice that could fix this would be wildly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Regards
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> For starters, ip addresse in the range of 10.x.x.x are not routable.
Also,
> ip addresses in the range of 192.168.x.x are also not routable. Hence
the
> two computers cannot connect. The ping tests show that they cannot
connect.
>
> I suppose the question is: How did you enable these two addresses? They
> certainly don't come out of clear blue sky.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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From:
Jim <j.n@nospam.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Tampered with create Network - Now Wireless signal on but no I
Date:
05/10/2007 22:46:20
"Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
<SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68DCC6B1-4953-431F-B5DE-C7CE0E0B515A@microsoft.com...
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Thank you for advising me that these two addresses are not routable and
> that
> therefore the computers can't connect.
>
> Now I've confessed I got lost following the Microsoft Wizards in creating
> this problem.
>
> So the question is... how do I fix it?
>
>
>
>
>
> You are quite correct, they didn't come out of clear blue sky... I was
> trying to follow the Microsoft Wizards to create a Network Connection
> between
> two home computers and I got lost somewhere or did something that must
> have
> established these settings.
>
> The question is that... given I have no idea how I got there... do you or
> anyone else know how can I fix it?
>
This depends on where each computer is getting its ip address from.
If you entered the ip address in the HOSTS file, then you can correct this
part of your problem by changing the entries.
Frankly what I would do is start all over once again.
First you execute the Network Setup Wizard on one of the computers.
This wizard sets up an ethernet network.
During the execution of the wizard, it prompts you to allow creation of a
setup disk. You do this.
After finishing with the wizard, take the disk over to the other computer,
and run the setup program.
When you have done this, the network settings will be consistent.
Now, you setup your router following the instructions in the fine manual.
Make certain that you enable DHCP on the router.
Enable the strongest wireless encryption in the router.
Now, execute the Wireless Network Setup Wizard on each computer which will
connect to the router wirelessly.
The tough part here is making certain that the wireless key on the computer
matches the one on the router. The computer
will not connect to the router if this key is wrong.
And, finally, make certain that you have only one firewall executing on each
computer and that this firewall is configured to all
printer and file sharing. In particular, the router must pass ICMP
packets.
If it doesn't, you won't be able to do much. A sure
indication of this problem is not being able to ping another computer
because ping packets are a type of ICMP packets.
Jim
>
>
> "Jim" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
>> <SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3C06616A-17FD-4E49-B00E-501926A734B3@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm obviously not meant to be a computer programmer.
>> >
>> > I have a wireless broadband router for the home for my PC.
>> >
>> > My friend had her PC here, and I thought I'd link up our two PCs by the
>> > "create wireless home network" function - just so I could transfer to
>> > her
>> > a
>> > bunch of music.
>> >
>> > After messing about for ages, I wasn't able to do it successfully (so
>> > complicated a process just to get two Computers to network!! or at
>> > least,
>> > I
>> > think it is, because I've never been able to do it... you might wonder,
>> > why
>> > do I keep trying?). So I gave up after two hours!!
>> >
>> > HERE IS THE PROBLEM: after mucking around for ages, it turns out that I
>> > somehow managed to disable both our computers from being able to access
>> > the
>> > internet by wireless!!
>> >
>> > NOTE: linking by the ethernet cable straight into the router, access to
>> > the
>> > internet is perfect (just when I take out the cable and rely on the
>> > wireless
>> > system, it no longer works, whereas before it did work)
>> >
>> > The Wireless Network Connection icon shows that we are still connected
>> > to
>> > the wireless router. However, I'm guessing there is a disconnect in the
>> > PC
>> > configuration now that links the browsers to the wireless.
>> >
>> > I have run a Networking Diagnostic Test which shows two FAILs:
>> >
>> > (1) Network Adapters / 00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
>> > Connection -
>> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
>> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
>> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
FAILED
>> >
>> > (2)
>> > IP Address FAILED
>> > [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (FAILED)
>> > IPAddress = 10.0.0.2 (FAILED)
>> > Pinging 10.0.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Ping statistics for 10.0.0.2:
>> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
>> > [00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (FAILED)
>> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
>> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Request timed out.
>> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
>> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what all this means, but they both seem to have to do with
>> > a
>> > single setting which I don't know how to correct.
>> >
>> > Am I on the right track?
>> >
>> > In any case, any helpful advice that could fix this would be wildly
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Sean
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> For starters, ip addresse in the range of 10.x.x.x are not routable.
>> Also,
>> ip addresses in the range of 192.168.x.x are also not routable. Hence
>> the
>> two computers cannot connect. The ping tests show that they cannot
>> connect.
>>
>> I suppose the question is: How did you enable these two addresses? They
>> certainly don't come out of clear blue sky.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
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From:
Sean from the Sunshine Coast
<SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Tampered with create Network - Now Wireless signal on but no I
Date:
05/10/2007 23:25:01
Thanks very much for that Jim,
I'll give that a try as soon as I'm back home.
Cheers
Sean
"Jim" wrote:
>
> "Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
> <SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:68DCC6B1-4953-431F-B5DE-C7CE0E0B515A@microsoft.com...
> >
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > Thank you for advising me that these two addresses are not routable and
> > that
> > therefore the computers can't connect.
> >
> > Now I've confessed I got lost following the Microsoft Wizards in creating
> > this problem.
> >
> > So the question is... how do I fix it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You are quite correct, they didn't come out of clear blue sky... I was
> > trying to follow the Microsoft Wizards to create a Network Connection
> > between
> > two home computers and I got lost somewhere or did something that must
> > have
> > established these settings.
> >
> > The question is that... given I have no idea how I got there... do you or
> > anyone else know how can I fix it?
> >
> This depends on where each computer is getting its ip address from.
> If you entered the ip address in the HOSTS file, then you can correct this
> part of your problem by changing the entries.
> Frankly what I would do is start all over once again.
> First you execute the Network Setup Wizard on one of the computers.
> This wizard sets up an ethernet network.
> During the execution of the wizard, it prompts you to allow creation of a
> setup disk. You do this.
> After finishing with the wizard, take the disk over to the other computer,
> and run the setup program.
> When you have done this, the network settings will be consistent.
>
> Now, you setup your router following the instructions in the fine manual.
> Make certain that you enable DHCP on the router.
> Enable the strongest wireless encryption in the router.
>
> Now, execute the Wireless Network Setup Wizard on each computer which will
> connect to the router wirelessly.
> The tough part here is making certain that the wireless key on the computer
> matches the one on the router. The computer
> will not connect to the router if this key is wrong.
>
> And, finally, make certain that you have only one firewall executing on each
> computer and that this firewall is configured to all
> printer and file sharing. In particular, the router must pass ICMP
packets.
> If it doesn't, you won't be able to do much. A sure
> indication of this problem is not being able to ping another computer
> because ping packets are a type of ICMP packets.
>
> Jim
> >
> >
> > "Jim" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
> >> <SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3C06616A-17FD-4E49-B00E-501926A734B3@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'm obviously not meant to be a computer programmer.
> >> >
> >> > I have a wireless broadband router for the home for my PC.
> >> >
> >> > My friend had her PC here, and I thought I'd link up our two PCs by the
> >> > "create wireless home network" function - just so I could transfer to
> >> > her
> >> > a
> >> > bunch of music.
> >> >
> >> > After messing about for ages, I wasn't able to do it successfully (so
> >> > complicated a process just to get two Computers to network!! or at
> >> > least,
> >> > I
> >> > think it is, because I've never been able to do it... you might wonder,
> >> > why
> >> > do I keep trying?). So I gave up after two hours!!
> >> >
> >> > HERE IS THE PROBLEM: after mucking around for ages, it turns out that I
> >> > somehow managed to disable both our computers from being able to access
> >> > the
> >> > internet by wireless!!
> >> >
> >> > NOTE: linking by the ethernet cable straight into the router, access to
> >> > the
> >> > internet is perfect (just when I take out the cable and rely on the
> >> > wireless
> >> > system, it no longer works, whereas before it did work)
> >> >
> >> > The Wireless Network Connection icon shows that we are still connected
> >> > to
> >> > the wireless router. However, I'm guessing there is a disconnect in the
> >> > PC
> >> > configuration now that links the browsers to the wireless.
> >> >
> >> > I have run a Networking Diagnostic Test which shows two FAILs:
> >> >
> >> > (1) Network Adapters / 00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
> >> > Connection -
> >> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> >> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> >> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
FAILED
> >> >
> >> > (2)
> >> > IP Address FAILED
> >> > [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (FAILED)
> >> > IPAddress = 10.0.0.2 (FAILED)
> >> > Pinging 10.0.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Ping statistics for 10.0.0.2:
> >> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> >> > [00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (FAILED)
> >> > IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> >> > Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Request timed out.
> >> > Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> >> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure what all this means, but they both seem to have to do with
> >> > a
> >> > single setting which I don't know how to correct.
> >> >
> >> > Am I on the right track?
> >> >
> >> > In any case, any helpful advice that could fix this would be wildly
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Sean
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> For starters, ip addresse in the range of 10.x.x.x are not routable.
> >> Also,
> >> ip addresses in the range of 192.168.x.x are also not routable. Hence
> >> the
> >> two computers cannot connect. The ping tests show that they cannot
> >> connect.
> >>
> >> I suppose the question is: How did you enable these two addresses?
They
> >> certainly don't come out of clear blue sky.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Tampered with create Network - Now Wireless signal on but no Inter
Date:
05/10/2007 15:00:20
Hi
If the wire part connect to the Internet and the Wireless Not. It means that
you do not have a real connection between the Wireless computer and the
Wireless Router. The IPs that you mentioned indicate a problem, an IP of
10.0.0.x can not work together with IP 192.168.0.x
May be this can Help.
My New Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
<SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C06616A-17FD-4E49-B00E-501926A734B3@microsoft.com...
> I'm obviously not meant to be a computer programmer.
>
> I have a wireless broadband router for the home for my PC.
>
> My friend had her PC here, and I thought I'd link up our two PCs by the
> "create wireless home network" function - just so I could transfer to her
> a
> bunch of music.
>
> After messing about for ages, I wasn't able to do it successfully (so
> complicated a process just to get two Computers to network!! or at least,
> I
> think it is, because I've never been able to do it... you might wonder,
> why
> do I keep trying?). So I gave up after two hours!!
>
> HERE IS THE PROBLEM: after mucking around for ages, it turns out that I
> somehow managed to disable both our computers from being able to access
> the
> internet by wireless!!
>
> NOTE: linking by the ethernet cable straight into the router, access to
> the
> internet is perfect (just when I take out the cable and rely on the
> wireless
> system, it no longer works, whereas before it did work)
>
> The Wireless Network Connection icon shows that we are still connected to
> the wireless router. However, I'm guessing there is a disconnect in the PC
> configuration now that links the browsers to the wireless.
>
> I have run a Networking Diagnostic Test which shows two FAILs:
>
> (1) Network Adapters / 00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
> Connection -
> IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
FAILED
>
> (2)
> IP Address FAILED
> [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (FAILED)
> IPAddress = 10.0.0.2 (FAILED)
> Pinging 10.0.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Ping statistics for 10.0.0.2:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> [00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (FAILED)
> IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
>
> I'm not sure what all this means, but they both seem to have to do with a
> single setting which I don't know how to correct.
>
> Am I on the right track?
>
> In any case, any helpful advice that could fix this would be wildly
> appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Sean
>
>
>
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From:
Jim <j.n@nospam.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Tampered with create Network - Now Wireless signal on but no Inter
Date:
05/10/2007 15:58:04
"Sean from the Sunshine Coast"
<SeanfromtheSunshineCoast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C06616A-17FD-4E49-B00E-501926A734B3@microsoft.com...
> I'm obviously not meant to be a computer programmer.
>
> I have a wireless broadband router for the home for my PC.
>
> My friend had her PC here, and I thought I'd link up our two PCs by the
> "create wireless home network" function - just so I could transfer to her
> a
> bunch of music.
>
> After messing about for ages, I wasn't able to do it successfully (so
> complicated a process just to get two Computers to network!! or at least,
> I
> think it is, because I've never been able to do it... you might wonder,
> why
> do I keep trying?). So I gave up after two hours!!
>
> HERE IS THE PROBLEM: after mucking around for ages, it turns out that I
> somehow managed to disable both our computers from being able to access
> the
> internet by wireless!!
>
> NOTE: linking by the ethernet cable straight into the router, access to
> the
> internet is perfect (just when I take out the cable and rely on the
> wireless
> system, it no longer works, whereas before it did work)
>
> The Wireless Network Connection icon shows that we are still connected to
> the wireless router. However, I'm guessing there is a disconnect in the PC
> configuration now that links the browsers to the wireless.
>
> I have run a Networking Diagnostic Test which shows two FAILs:
>
> (1) Network Adapters / 00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
> Connection -
> IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
FAILED
>
> (2)
> IP Address FAILED
> [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (FAILED)
> IPAddress = 10.0.0.2 (FAILED)
> Pinging 10.0.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Ping statistics for 10.0.0.2:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
> [00000011] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (FAILED)
> IPAddress = 192.168.0.102 (FAILED)
> Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Request timed out.
> Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss)
>
> I'm not sure what all this means, but they both seem to have to do with a
> single setting which I don't know how to correct.
>
> Am I on the right track?
>
> In any case, any helpful advice that could fix this would be wildly
> appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Sean
>
>
>
For starters, ip addresse in the range of 10.x.x.x are not routable. Also,
ip addresses in the range of 192.168.x.x are also not routable. Hence the
two computers cannot connect. The ping tests show that they cannot
connect.
I suppose the question is: How did you enable these two addresses? They
certainly don't come out of clear blue sky.
Jim
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From:
es67 <es67@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Unable to connect
Date:
05/05/2007 13:38:00
I have read a number of questions in this discussion group similar to yours.
I have the same issue. Up until recently I had no problem accessing wireless
networks and about amonth ago the issue appeared.
Can this be a Microsoft bug that came through automatic updates?
I am using XP Home IE release 7.
"Bruno" wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a lap top dell inspiron 6400 running Windows XP. I have been
> connected with no problems for 2 months. My computer was able to
> automatically connect to the internet until just recently. Suddenly it
> stopped work properly. It does not show any problem but I can not connect.
> The wireless adapter shows my network in the range, some times it connect but
> connection is lost in a few seconds, sometimes it can not even detect the
> network. I really do not have idea what is going on, everything was smooth
> this morning. The Internet is ok as now I am connected troug cable
> I really appreciate any help to have it fixed
> Cheers
>
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/09/2007 11:42:51
mario wrote:
> I tried to install a Netgear wpn111 wireless USB adapter. The
installation
> failed. I ran the Netgear uninstallation routine and tried to re-install
the
> wpn111. XP will not detect the device. I called Netgear - no help.
I
> noticed that the adapter still appears in the device manager as a hidden
> device. When I try to remove it using the device manager, I get the
error
> message: "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be required to
boot
> up the computer." I removed the USB device from the boot list in the
BIOS
> but the device manager still won't let me delete the Netgear device. I
tried
> to remove it from the registry and got an error when I tried to delete the
> key. I tried this on two machines with the same results.
> Is there a way to remove the device so I can try to reinstall it?
You can try uninstalling in Safe Mode, or you can try going into your
BIOS and making sure that any "boot from network" option is disabled.
Neither of these suggestions worked for me when I had a similar problem.
You can also try the following KB article, although my notes say that it
"may be not entirely accurate for XP". If you do try this, be sure to
back up your registry first. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/147797/EN-US/
The only way I was able to deal with this issue was to do a System
Restore to a point before the problem arose.
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
Lem <lemp40@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/09/2007 11:46:01
mario wrote:
> I tried to install a Netgear wpn111 wireless USB adapter. The
installation
> failed. I ran the Netgear uninstallation routine and tried to re-install
the
> wpn111. XP will not detect the device. I called Netgear - no help.
I
> noticed that the adapter still appears in the device manager as a hidden
> device. When I try to remove it using the device manager, I get the
error
> message: "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be required to
boot
> up the computer." I removed the USB device from the boot list in the
BIOS
> but the device manager still won't let me delete the Netgear device. I
tried
> to remove it from the registry and got an error when I tried to delete the
> key. I tried this on two machines with the same results.
> Is there a way to remove the device so I can try to reinstall it?
Sorry, I didn't fully read your post. I see you have already tried to
deal with the boot list as well as removing the device from the
registry. Try removing it from the registry while in Safe Mode, and see
if that works. Otherwise, System Restore (or restore from a disk image)
may be your best options.
--
Lem MS MVP -- Networking
To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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From:
mario <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/09/2007 12:26:02
I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device manager.
I get the same errors.
Mario
"Lem" wrote:
> mario wrote:
> > I tried to install a Netgear wpn111 wireless USB adapter. The
installation
> > failed. I ran the Netgear uninstallation routine and tried to
re-install the
> > wpn111. XP will not detect the device. I called Netgear - no
help. I
> > noticed that the adapter still appears in the device manager as a hidden
> > device. When I try to remove it using the device manager, I get the
error
> > message: "Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be required
to boot
> > up the computer." I removed the USB device from the boot list in the
BIOS
> > but the device manager still won't let me delete the Netgear device. I
tried
> > to remove it from the registry and got an error when I tried to delete the
> > key. I tried this on two machines with the same results.
> > Is there a way to remove the device so I can try to reinstall it?
>
> Sorry, I didn't fully read your post. I see you have already tried to
> deal with the boot list as well as removing the device from the
> registry. Try removing it from the registry while in Safe Mode, and see
> if that works. Otherwise, System Restore (or restore from a disk image)
> may be your best options.
>
> --
> Lem MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>
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From:
Pavel A. <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/09/2007 14:06:02
"mario" wrote:
> I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device manager.
> I get the same errors.
Yes, failed driver installation can leave an unremovable "phantom".
It isn't in any way related to bios settings, network boot and so on.
But it is strange that this happens to you on WinXP - this was usual
on win2k, but in XP they fixed this so that phantoms can be easily deleted
in dev. manager (you can't do this with regedit... sorry )
Anyway, if the device is plugged again, a phantom usually does
not prevent XP from detecting it.
IMHO your case is pretty unusual, no wonder that Netgear support
can't help.
Have you tried system restore as Lem advised?
Are you sure that this driver is really for XP and not for win98 or win2k?
Regards,
--PA
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From:
mario <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/09/2007 14:17:01
According to Netgear it was an XP driver. The OS did not detect it when it
was plugged back in. This same thing happened on two different computers.
The only thing that Netgear could offer was that the adapter was defective.
I returned it for a replacement which I haven't received yet.
Mario
"Pavel A." wrote:
> "mario" wrote:
> > I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device manager.
> > I get the same errors.
>
> Yes, failed driver installation can leave an unremovable "phantom".
> It isn't in any way related to bios settings, network boot and so on.
> But it is strange that this happens to you on WinXP - this was usual
> on win2k, but in XP they fixed this so that phantoms can be easily deleted
> in dev. manager (you can't do this with regedit... sorry )
>
> Anyway, if the device is plugged again, a phantom usually does
> not prevent XP from detecting it.
> IMHO your case is pretty unusual, no wonder that Netgear support
> can't help.
> Have you tried system restore as Lem advised?
> Are you sure that this driver is really for XP and not for win98 or win2k?
>
> Regards,
> --PA
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From:
mario <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/09/2007 15:45:01
Another post suggested opening up the permissions on the keys I wanted to
delete with regdt32. That solved the problem. I was then able to
delete the
Netgear keys.
Mario
"mario" wrote:
> According to Netgear it was an XP driver. The OS did not detect it when
it
> was plugged back in. This same thing happened on two different
computers.
> The only thing that Netgear could offer was that the adapter was defective.
> I returned it for a replacement which I haven't received yet.
>
> Mario
>
> "Pavel A." wrote:
>
> > "mario" wrote:
> > > I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device
manager.
> > > I get the same errors.
> >
> > Yes, failed driver installation can leave an unremovable "phantom".
> > It isn't in any way related to bios settings, network boot and so on.
> > But it is strange that this happens to you on WinXP - this was usual
> > on win2k, but in XP they fixed this so that phantoms can be easily deleted
> > in dev. manager (you can't do this with regedit... sorry )
> >
> > Anyway, if the device is plugged again, a phantom usually does
> > not prevent XP from detecting it.
> > IMHO your case is pretty unusual, no wonder that Netgear support
> > can't help.
> > Have you tried system restore as Lem advised?
> > Are you sure that this driver is really for XP and not for win98 or win2k?
> >
> > Regards,
> > --PA
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/10/2007 09:38:43
Hi
Another trick is to rename the Hidden Devices, then they are easly removed
from the Registry and the system.
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"mario" <mario@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DC13C92E-CDD0-499A-9EB0-A7D1672B98F3@microsoft.com...
> Another post suggested opening up the permissions on the keys I wanted to
> delete with regdt32. That solved the problem. I was then able to
delete
> the
> Netgear keys.
>
> Mario
>
> "mario" wrote:
>
>> According to Netgear it was an XP driver. The OS did not detect it when
>> it
>> was plugged back in. This same thing happened on two different
>> computers.
>> The only thing that Netgear could offer was that the adapter was
>> defective.
>> I returned it for a replacement which I haven't received yet.
>>
>> Mario
>>
>> "Pavel A." wrote:
>>
>> > "mario" wrote:
>> > > I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device
>> > > manager.
>> > > I get the same errors.
>> >
>> > Yes, failed driver installation can leave an unremovable "phantom".
>> > It isn't in any way related to bios settings, network boot and so on.
>> > But it is strange that this happens to you on WinXP - this was usual
>> > on win2k, but in XP they fixed this so that phantoms can be easily
>> > deleted
>> > in dev. manager (you can't do this with regedit... sorry )
>> >
>> > Anyway, if the device is plugged again, a phantom usually does
>> > not prevent XP from detecting it.
>> > IMHO your case is pretty unusual, no wonder that Netgear support
>> > can't help.
>> > Have you tried system restore as Lem advised?
>> > Are you sure that this driver is really for XP and not for win98 or
>> > win2k?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > --PA
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From:
mario <mario@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/10/2007 12:25:01
Thanks for the hint. I hope I never have to use it though.
Mario
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> Hi
> Another trick is to rename the Hidden Devices, then they are easly removed
> from the Registry and the system.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "mario" <mario@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DC13C92E-CDD0-499A-9EB0-A7D1672B98F3@microsoft.com...
> > Another post suggested opening up the permissions on the keys I wanted to
> > delete with regdt32. That solved the problem. I was then able to
delete
> > the
> > Netgear keys.
> >
> > Mario
> >
> > "mario" wrote:
> >
> >> According to Netgear it was an XP driver. The OS did not detect it
when
> >> it
> >> was plugged back in. This same thing happened on two different
> >> computers.
> >> The only thing that Netgear could offer was that the adapter was
> >> defective.
> >> I returned it for a replacement which I haven't received yet.
> >>
> >> Mario
> >>
> >> "Pavel A." wrote:
> >>
> >> > "mario" wrote:
> >> > > I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device
> >> > > manager.
> >> > > I get the same errors.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, failed driver installation can leave an unremovable "phantom".
> >> > It isn't in any way related to bios settings, network boot and so on.
> >> > But it is strange that this happens to you on WinXP - this was usual
> >> > on win2k, but in XP they fixed this so that phantoms can be easily
> >> > deleted
> >> > in dev. manager (you can't do this with regedit... sorry )
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, if the device is plugged again, a phantom usually does
> >> > not prevent XP from detecting it.
> >> > IMHO your case is pretty unusual, no wonder that Netgear support
> >> > can't help.
> >> > Have you tried system restore as Lem advised?
> >> > Are you sure that this driver is really for XP and not for win98 or
> >> > win2k?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > --PA
>
>
>
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From:
Pavel A. <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Unable to remove hidden device in device manager
Date:
05/10/2007 10:17:02
"mario" wrote:
Another post suggested opening up the permissions on the keys I wanted to
> delete with regdt32. That solved the problem. I was then able to
delete the
> Netgear keys.
Yes, the install failure can happen because of defective hardware.
Of course you can change permission on the enum registry branch and
delete the keys, but these keys are not what causes the problem,
and they are specially protected by purpose. Be very sure you know
what you do there.
Regards,
--PA
> "mario" wrote:
> > According to Netgear it was an XP driver. The OS did not detect it
when it
> > was plugged back in. This same thing happened on two different
computers.
> > The only thing that Netgear could offer was that the adapter was defective.
> > I returned it for a replacement which I haven't received yet.
> >
> > Mario
> >
> > "Pavel A." wrote:
> >
> > > "mario" wrote:
> > > > I tried to remove it in safe mode using both regedit and the device
manager.
> > > > I get the same errors.
> > >
> > > Yes, failed driver installation can leave an unremovable "phantom".
> > > It isn't in any way related to bios settings, network boot and so on.
> > > But it is strange that this happens to you on WinXP - this was usual
> > > on win2k, but in XP they fixed this so that phantoms can be easily deleted
> > > in dev. manager (you can't do this with regedit... sorry )
> > >
> > > Anyway, if the device is plugged again, a phantom usually does
> > > not prevent XP from detecting it.
> > > IMHO your case is pretty unusual, no wonder that Netgear support
> > > can't help.
> > > Have you tried system restore as Lem advised?
> > > Are you sure that this driver is really for XP and not for win98 or win2k?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --PA
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From:
<ato_zee@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Uneven router signal
Date:
04/19/2007 18:06:31
On 19-Apr-2007, "Mike" <toocool@no-spam-tin.it> wrote:
> I am using Network Stumbler to monitor the signal levels of my Netgear router.
> While it is understandable that the level drops every time I position
myself
> between the
> router and my laptop ( average signal value is -58dBm, at a distance of
approx. 30
> feet ), I cannot explain why, all conditions being equal, sometimes the
level drops
> down
> by a good 10 o 15 dBm, with sudden dips and then recovers after 10 seconds or
so.
> Again,
> the surrounding environment is the same, no microwave ovens kicking in, only a
> cordless
> phone which is always on, actually. Looks like the router is misbehaving.
> Any clues ??
> Thanks,
You don't say what antenna at the PC end. Often with built in antennas
the PC case can screen the antenna, which is also being subject
to nearby networks, even if they are on a different channel.
If these are strong the compete with the desired signal and affect
the automatic gain control.
I've found adding a simple foil reflector to my USB wireless adapter,
and locating it for maximum pickup, helps to reduce fluctuations
of level.
By raising gain in one direction you reduce the level of signals
from rear and side of the direct path, whilst increasing the
desired signal. Which is of course the purpose of reflectors.
As a result there can be an improvement of signal quality,
and a rise in link rate.
USB wireless adapters on the end of a lead can be
positioned for best pickup, and most USB adapter utilities
show signal strength and quality. Signal quality seems
the most important measure, and signal quality falls
with multipath propagation.
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From:
Mike <toocool@no-spam-tin.it>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Uneven router signal
Date:
04/20/2007 03:32:27
My laptop has a built-in wireless adapter (Intel PRO 3945ABG), so no external
antenna is
present. There are no nearby networks, at least they are not reported by
Network
Stumbler.
Shall I buy a USB dongle ? If so, will I have to disable the wireless card ? Is
it
convenient ?
Thanks,
Mike
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<ato_zee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3OOdnWxcDuBoaLrbRVnygQA@pipex.net...
>
> On 19-Apr-2007, "Mike" <toocool@no-spam-tin.it> wrote:
>
>> I am using Network Stumbler to monitor the signal levels of my Netgear
router.
>> While it is understandable that the level drops every time I position
myself
>> between the
>> router and my laptop ( average signal value is -58dBm, at a distance of
approx. 30
>> feet ), I cannot explain why, all conditions being equal, sometimes the
level drops
>> down
>> by a good 10 o 15 dBm, with sudden dips and then recovers after 10 seconds or
so.
>> Again,
>> the surrounding environment is the same, no microwave ovens kicking in, only
a
>> cordless
>> phone which is always on, actually. Looks like the router is misbehaving.
>> Any clues ??
>> Thanks,
>
> You don't say what antenna at the PC end. Often with built in antennas
> the PC case can screen the antenna, which is also being subject
> to nearby networks, even if they are on a different channel.
> If these are strong the compete with the desired signal and affect
> the automatic gain control.
> I've found adding a simple foil reflector to my USB wireless adapter,
> and locating it for maximum pickup, helps to reduce fluctuations
> of level.
> By raising gain in one direction you reduce the level of signals
> from rear and side of the direct path, whilst increasing the
> desired signal. Which is of course the purpose of reflectors.
> As a result there can be an improvement of signal quality,
> and a rise in link rate.
> USB wireless adapters on the end of a lead can be
> positioned for best pickup, and most USB adapter utilities
> show signal strength and quality. Signal quality seems
> the most important measure, and signal quality falls
> with multipath propagation.
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Uneven router signal
Date:
04/19/2007 18:42:31
Hi
It is a normal Wireless behavior.
As to do with the surrounding and stabilization circuits of the Wireless
transmission.
2.GHz is the same frequency as the Microwave and has the same qualities,
i.e. it gets absorbed by water molecules.
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Mike" <toocool@no-spam-tin.it> wrote in message
news:O7Ujn0sgHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I am using Network Stumbler to monitor the signal levels of my Netgear
>router.
> While it is understandable that the level drops every time I position
> myself between the router and my laptop ( average signal value is -58dBm,
> at a distance of approx. 30 feet ), I cannot explain why, all conditions
> being equal, sometimes the level drops down by a good 10 o 15 dBm, with
> sudden dips and then recovers after 10 seconds or so. Again, the
> surrounding environment is the same, no microwave ovens kicking in, only a
> cordless phone which is always on, actually. Looks like the router is
> misbehaving.
> Any clues ??
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
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From:
Jim <j.n@nospam.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Uneven router signal
Date:
04/19/2007 19:10:25
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <Jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
news:%23W4txxtgHHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> It is a normal Wireless behavior.
> As to do with the surrounding and stabilization circuits of the Wireless
> transmission.
> 2.GHz is the same frequency as the Microwave and has the same qualities,
> i.e. it gets absorbed by water molecules.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
I see. That is why my wireless network is so sensitive to humidity.
Jim
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From:
GUYWITHCOMPUTERPROBLEMS <GUYWITHCOMPUTERPROBLEMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Using a wireless and wired network together
Date:
04/26/2007 14:56:02
i meant to say that laptop1 to 2 is wireless and laptop2 to PC is wired, but
for some reason the WIRELESS is not alligned with the gap between laptop1 and
laptop2
"GUYWITHCOMPUTERPROBLEMS" wrote:
> Basically, here is the problemo: i have a pc and two laptops, my borther
> wants to be able to use his laptop in his bedroom. The PC and 1 of the
> laptops is downstairs. So the PC has the internet on it and the laptop
> downstairs connects to it via an ethernet cable. Unfortunately, the PC does
> not have a wireless card or wireless thing installed on it while the laptop
> does, so what i am trying to do is the following: Laptop1
> Laptop2------------>PC
>
WIRELESS
WIRED
> Everytime I try to do this, it comes up with: System error, there is the ip
> address on the same network or something like that. Anyway cheers to any1 hu
> reads this and i hope any1 has an answer!!!!! Coz i never remember websites,
> plz can u send answers to my email which is: 786ace@gmail.com and if any1
> knows what a WINS server is, can you tell me plz plz plz plzz plz plzzzzzzz,
> cheers lol
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Using a wireless and wired network together
Date:
04/26/2007 21:23:49
Hi
The laptops have to be configured to communicate in AD-Hoc mode (read the
Laptop's Wireless manual).
Once they are communicating successfully, you have to configure Windows ICS
on laptop 2 to act as a Router to Laptop 1.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"GUYWITHCOMPUTERPROBLEMS"
<GUYWITHCOMPUTERPROBLEMS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6C1E7508-6691-48B0-A234-EB2F31F7A1D2@microsoft.com...
>
> i meant to say that laptop1 to 2 is wireless and laptop2 to PC is wired,
> but
> for some reason the WIRELESS is not alligned with the gap between laptop1
> and
> laptop2
> "GUYWITHCOMPUTERPROBLEMS" wrote:
>
>> Basically, here is the problemo: i have a pc and two laptops, my borther
>> wants to be able to use his laptop in his bedroom. The PC and 1 of the
>> laptops is downstairs. So the PC has the internet on it and the laptop
>> downstairs connects to it via an ethernet cable. Unfortunately, the PC
>> does
>> not have a wireless card or wireless thing installed on it while the
>> laptop
>> does, so what i am trying to do is the following: Laptop1
>> Laptop2------------>PC
>>
WIRELESS
WIRED
>> Everytime I try to do this, it comes up with: System error, there is the
>> ip
>> address on the same network or something like that. Anyway cheers to any1
>> hu
>> reads this and i hope any1 has an answer!!!!! Coz i never remember
>> websites,
>> plz can u send answers to my email which is: 786ace@gmail.com and if any1
>> knows what a WINS server is, can you tell me plz plz plz plzz plz
>> plzzzzzzz,
>> cheers lol
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Vista Driver for Trendnet 423pi - b1
Date:
04/12/2007 17:06:34
Hi
May be this can Help, http://www.trendnet.com/support/vista.htm
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Bruce" <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:402706E3-4D0F-4DC0-8A40-87CA7CB9701A@microsoft.com...
> I've got the above wireless card that I need a driver for. Vista wants to
> use
> mrvw13b.sys but this doesn't start - code 10 error. It did work once but
> after rebooting, it failed. Tried everything, include new install of
> vista.
> Trendnet support wasn't any help. This was there last answer. "Vista uses
> it's own native drivers. You might need to contact Microsoft to help
> troubleshoot this issue. After all, they wrote the drivers."
>
> Anybody got this card working with vista? What driver are you using?
>
> thanks
>
> Bruce
>
>
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From:
Bruce <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Vista Driver for Trendnet 423pi - b1
Date:
04/12/2007 18:04:01
Thanks but I've tried this. Vista refuses to use these drivers. When I remove
from system32/drivers the drivers vista wants and place the trendnet download
drvers in system32/drivers I can at least get vista device manager to load
them. vista wouldn't load them if I use the browse function. But the
downloaded drivers still wouldn't start. Trendnet support says not to use
their drivers in vista even though the site offers them as a download.
So I probably need someone who actually has this card working and determine
what driver is being used.
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> Hi
> May be this can Help, http://www.trendnet.com/support/vista.htm
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Bruce" <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:402706E3-4D0F-4DC0-8A40-87CA7CB9701A@microsoft.com...
> > I've got the above wireless card that I need a driver for. Vista wants to
> > use
> > mrvw13b.sys but this doesn't start - code 10 error. It did work once but
> > after rebooting, it failed. Tried everything, include new install of
> > vista.
> > Trendnet support wasn't any help. This was there last answer. "Vista uses
> > it's own native drivers. You might need to contact Microsoft to help
> > troubleshoot this issue. After all, they wrote the drivers."
> >
> > Anybody got this card working with vista? What driver are you using?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From:
Jack \(MVP-Networking\). <Jack@discussiongroup.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Vista Driver for Trendnet 423pi - b1
Date:
04/12/2007 19:37:50
Hi
Id. which chipset is used by this card, and try to find the OEM drivers
from the chipset maker.
As an example, I have TrendNet 424, the chipset is Realtek, and the Realtek
OEM drivers works well with Vista,
Jack (MVP-Networking).
"Bruce" <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:532D88D9-7ED6-41ED-922D-FC07E18B72E5@microsoft.com...
> Thanks but I've tried this. Vista refuses to use these drivers. When I
> remove
> from system32/drivers the drivers vista wants and place the trendnet
> download
> drvers in system32/drivers I can at least get vista device manager to load
> them. vista wouldn't load them if I use the browse function. But the
> downloaded drivers still wouldn't start. Trendnet support says not to use
> their drivers in vista even though the site offers them as a download.
>
> So I probably need someone who actually has this card working and
> determine
> what driver is being used.
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> May be this can Help, http://www.trendnet.com/support/vista.htm
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Bruce" <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:402706E3-4D0F-4DC0-8A40-87CA7CB9701A@microsoft.com...
>> > I've got the above wireless card that I need a driver for. Vista wants
>> > to
>> > use
>> > mrvw13b.sys but this doesn't start - code 10 error. It did work once
>> > but
>> > after rebooting, it failed. Tried everything, include new install of
>> > vista.
>> > Trendnet support wasn't any help. This was there last answer. "Vista
>> > uses
>> > it's own native drivers. You might need to contact Microsoft to help
>> > troubleshoot this issue. After all, they wrote the drivers."
>> >
>> > Anybody got this card working with vista? What driver are you using?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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From:
Bruce <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Vista Driver for Trendnet 423pi - b1
Date:
04/14/2007 12:10:03
The trendnet 423pi b1 uses Marvell 88W88335-TGJ chipsets. Couln't find much
on their web site, the site is designed for vendors not consumers. Also
looked on driverguide.com.
Since once it worked, with the initial oem dvd vista, I suspect that a
working driver is on the system but for some reason vista things the
mrvw13b.sys is a better fit. I figured out how to get mrvw13b.sys off the
system by removing the driver plus the stuff in driverstore. I guess I could
remove 1 by 1 each driver vista wants to load and home that eventually I get
one that works.
I put a driver request on driverguide, maybe someone will have this card
working in vista and let me know which driver they are using.
This has been a bit of time sink so I'll just string a wire from my router
and home I don't trip over the cable.
Thanks for the help. If I get a solution, I'll post it.
Bruce
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> Hi
> Id. which chipset is used by this card, and try to find the OEM drivers
> from the chipset maker.
> As an example, I have TrendNet 424, the chipset is Realtek, and the Realtek
> OEM drivers works well with Vista,
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Bruce" <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:532D88D9-7ED6-41ED-922D-FC07E18B72E5@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks but I've tried this. Vista refuses to use these drivers. When I
> > remove
> > from system32/drivers the drivers vista wants and place the trendnet
> > download
> > drvers in system32/drivers I can at least get vista device manager to load
> > them. vista wouldn't load them if I use the browse function. But the
> > downloaded drivers still wouldn't start. Trendnet support says not to use
> > their drivers in vista even though the site offers them as a download.
> >
> > So I probably need someone who actually has this card working and
> > determine
> > what driver is being used.
> >
> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> May be this can Help, http://www.trendnet.com/support/vista.htm
> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >>
> >> "Bruce" <Bruce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:402706E3-4D0F-4DC0-8A40-87CA7CB9701A@microsoft.com...
> >> > I've got the above wireless card that I need a driver for. Vista wants
> >> > to
> >> > use
> >> > mrvw13b.sys but this doesn't start - code 10 error. It did work once
> >> > but
> >> > after rebooting, it failed. Tried everything, include new install of
> >> > vista.
> >> > Trendnet support wasn't any help. This was there last answer. "Vista
> >> > uses
> >> > it's own native drivers. You might need to contact Microsoft to help
> >> > troubleshoot this issue. After all, they wrote the drivers."
> >> >
> >> > Anybody got this card working with vista? What driver are you using?
> >> >
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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