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DNS Post Collections 0704

Re: ddns

Re: deleting HostA records

Re: Disabling recursion only for some domains...

Re: DNS cleanup

Re: DNS client crashes on server and mail flow stops

Re: DNS DHCP Printer reservation setting

Re: DNS entries reappearing

Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Re: DNS Issue

Re: DNS issues?

Re: DNS Name server

 

 

From: Corey Hynes [MVP] <corey@hynesite.biz>

To: none

Subject: Re: ddns

Date: 09/19/2007 13:31:17

 

 

Do this.

 

Configure your WS03 with a DNS zone for your local comptuers, turn on

dynamic update without security (forget the exact setting name).

Configure your DNS to forward all unresolved queries to your local ISP DNS

Install DHCP, configure DHCP to update DNS (assuming your MAC and Linux

don't support DNS update) non your server box.

Turn off DHCP on your wireless

 

The assumption is you are hard wired from your DHCP server to the router.

 

That basic setup works fine.

 

"newguy" <newguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3FF57DC3-E354-4137-8432-D3F8254193C8@microsoft.com...

>i need to setup dns at my house. I have 4 machines two windows one linux

>one

> mac. i want to run an internal dns box. I am running windows 2003 server.

> I

> have dns working on the server. I can do nslookup and get info on external

> domains. I can't get any info on internal machines. My understanding is i

> need to have the windows server do DHCP and enable ddns.

>

> The problem is my wireless. I can figure out how to had out wireless ips

> via

> windows server. If i turn off dhcp on my access point how would I give  an

> ip

> to my laptop? I didn't see any options in my access point.

 

 

 

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From: newguy <newguy@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: ddns

Date: 09/19/2007 14:08:04

 

 

Do I give my laptop a static ip?

 

"Corey Hynes [MVP]" wrote:

 

> Do this.

>

> Configure your WS03 with a DNS zone for your local comptuers, turn on

> dynamic update without security (forget the exact setting name).

> Configure your DNS to forward all unresolved queries to your local ISP DNS

> Install DHCP, configure DHCP to update DNS (assuming your MAC and Linux

> don't support DNS update) non your server box.

> Turn off DHCP on your wireless

>

> The assumption is you are hard wired from your DHCP server to the router.

>

> That basic setup works fine.

>

> "newguy" <newguy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:3FF57DC3-E354-4137-8432-D3F8254193C8@microsoft.com...

> >i need to setup dns at my house. I have 4 machines two windows one linux

> >one

> > mac. i want to run an internal dns box. I am running windows 2003 server.

> > I

> > have dns working on the server. I can do nslookup and get info on external

> > domains. I can't get any info on internal machines. My understanding is i

> > need to have the windows server do DHCP and enable ddns.

> >

> > The problem is my wireless. I can figure out how to had out wireless ips

> > via

> > windows server. If i turn off dhcp on my access point how would I give  an

> > ip

> > to my laptop? I didn't see any options in my access point.

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: Re: deleting HostA records

Date: 09/20/2007 04:23:02

 

 

Hello Kevin,

 

If the machine still exists in the domain and register again, yes. Maybe

give more infos what your problem is.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

 

> if i deleted hostA records from our dns server will they come back

>

 

 

 

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From: kevin <kevin@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: deleting HostA records

Date: 09/20/2007 04:36:01

 

 

we have 2 dns server active directory intergrated

we are getting duplicated host A records in our dns we also have reverse

lookups

we have enable scavenge and aging on our primanry dns

the no-refresh interval is 7days and the refresh is 1days i have set that on

the server and the zone and thats on both servers we are using dhcp we have 2

servers and in the dns props they are both set to enable dns dynamic updates

and aslo to always dynamiclly update dns and ptr records and also discard a

and ptr records when lease is deleted

but i'm not sure if its working what would happen if i deleted ptr records

out of our reserve dns on both servers and also all of the host a records and

also would this best be done after hours when all computers are off

 

 

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

 

> Hello Kevin,

>

> If the machine still exists in the domain and register again, yes. Maybe

> give more infos what your problem is.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

> no rights.

>

> > if i deleted hostA records from our dns server will they come back

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US>

To: none

Subject: Re: Disabling recursion only for some domains...

Date: 09/20/2007 13:34:23

 

 

Read inline please.

 

In news:fctql2$qa9$1@registered.motzarella.org,

Luka Manojlovic <luka@news.manojlovic.net> typed:

> I would like to know if it is somehow possible to tweak Windows

> server 2003 DNS to make recursion available only from LAN side?

 

Not possible.

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS cleanup

Date: 09/28/2007 04:36:54

 

 

Hello sihfmis,

 

Is the server in AD moved to the computers container or still in the DC OU?

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

 

> I am in the process of cleaning up my DNS entries from when I

> decommissioned one of my DC.  I went through all the necessary steps;

> FSMO roles, catalog, & dcpromo.  I still see the old server entry in

> my DNS forward/reverse loolup.

>

> Can I delete the old server IP address?

>

 

 

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS client crashes on server and mail flow stops

Date: 09/16/2007 05:48:29

 

 

Hello pk,

 

You have one SBS two DNS servers and two additional exchange severs, all

in one domain? Please clarify a bit more. Also post an ipconfig /all from

your servers.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

 

> Hi,

>

> I have a weird problem on our SBS 2003 server.

> Today, again, the server stopped resolving any names done by the

> server

> itself.

> The server is a HP Proliant ml350 g4, with sbs 2003 sp1, with almost

> all recent updates. We have two win dns servers in the company.

> Exchange has sp2, there are two exchange servers within the same

> domain. But the problem is solely on srv1

>

> -Happens every 3-4 weeks

> -exchange fails to send any mail to other internal exchange servers

> and to

> the internet

> -exchange says unable to bind destination server in DNS

> -errors in event log:

> --SMTP could not connect to the DNS server '10.1.72.1'. The protocol

> used

> was 'UDP'. It may be down or inaccessible.

> --netlogon displays 30 errors in a row with the following data: The

> dynamic

> registration of the DNS record

> '_ldap._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.gc._msdcs.company.local.

> 600 IN

> SRV 0 100 3268 srv1.company.local.' failed on the following DNS

> server:

> DNS server IP address: <UNAVAILABLE>

> Returned Response Code (RCODE): 0

> Returned Status Code: 0

> -restarting dns client/server services helps momentarily so the mails

> leave

> the server, but the problem still exists

> -nslookup fails to resolve dns servers name, no matter what server

> (private/public) is primary

> -Can surf the internet with IP's only

> -When I vpn to the server via pptp, my client machine is able to

> resolve the

> local domain name and others. DNS Server is the problematic one, where

> it's

> resolving the names from

> -xp clients resolve names normally

> -Reboot fixes the problem for another 3-4 weeks

> So all signs point to DNS Client, but WTF? This stopped being fun a

> while

> ago :)

> Any ideas what do do next, other than keep rebooting the server every

> 3 weeks?

> netdiag fails with only this test:

> DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Failed

> [WARNING] Cannot find a primary authoritative DNS server for

> the

> name

> 'srv1.company.local.'. [ERROR_TIMEOUT]

> The name 'srv1.company.local.' may not be registered in

> DNS.

> [WARNING] Cannot find a primary authoritative DNS server for

> the

> name

> 'srv1.company.local.'. [WSAENOBUFS                 ]

> The name 'srv1.company.local.' may not be registered in

> DNS.

> [WARNING] The DNS entries for this DC are not registered correctly

> on

> DNS s

> rver '10.1.72.1'. Please wait for 30 minutes for DNS server

> replication.

> [WARNING] The DNS entries for this DC are not registered correctly

> on

> DNS s

> rver '10.1.72.3'. Please wait for 30 minutes for DNS server

> replication.

> [FATAL] No DNS servers have the DNS records for this DC

> registered.

> dcdiag fails with this:

> Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\srv1

> Starting test: Connectivity

> The host

> 14b6f682-0b42-46dc-801b-be8624095dc3._msdcs.company.local

> could not be resolved to an

> IP address.  Check the DNS server, DHCP, server name, etc

> Although the Guid DNS name

> (14b6f682-0b42-46dc-801b-be8624095dc3._msdcs.company.local)

> couldn't be

> resolved, the server name (srv1.company.local) resolved to

> the IP

> address (10.1.72.1) and was pingable.  Check that the IP

> address is

> registered correctly with the DNS server.

> ......................... srv1 failed test Connectivity

 

 

 

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From: PK <PK@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS client crashes on server and mail flow stops

Date: 09/16/2007 09:24:01

 

 

Hi,

 

i have only one sbs server, which has exchange 2003 and dns. then there is a

standard server with dns only. the third is standard also with exchange and

dns installed. and they are all in the same domain.

 

but the problem is only on this server.. all other server resolve names even

with this "broken" dns server configured as the primary dns. the sbs itself

is the only computer that cant resolve any names with any dns server.

 

sbs is 10.1.72.1 and secondary dns is .3

 

 

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS client crashes on server and mail flow stops

Date: 09/16/2007 09:29:16

 

 

Hello pk,

 

Please post an ipconfig /all from all 3 servers.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

 

> Hi,

>

> i have only one sbs server, which has exchange 2003 and dns. then

> there is a standard server with dns only. the third is standard also

> with exchange and dns installed. and they are all in the same domain.

>

> but the problem is only on this server.. all other server resolve

> names even with this "broken" dns server configured as the primary

> dns. the sbs itself is the only computer that cant resolve any names

> with any dns server.

>

> sbs is 10.1.72.1 and secondary dns is .3

>

 

 

 

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From: PK <PK@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: RE: DNS client crashes on server and mail flow stops

Date: 09/16/2007 10:30:01

 

 

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : srv1

   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : company.local

   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : company.local

 

PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.28

   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

 

Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7761 Gigabit Server Adapter

   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-17-A4-8B-40-18

   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.1

   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.254

   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.3, 10.1.72.1

   Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.1

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC3122 Fast Ethernet NIC #2

   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8B-68-61-A9

   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.60.1

   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

 

 

 

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : srv2

   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : company.local

   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : company.local

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7781 Gigabit Server Adapter

   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-69-EC-25

   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.3

   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.254

   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.3

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7781 Gigabit Server Adapter #2

   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-69-EC-24

   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1

   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

 

i have no access to the second exchange server. but the problem is clearly

on the srv1 machine. not on the other ones, like i said, they work fine.

 

 

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: RE: DNS client crashes on server and mail flow stops

Date: 09/16/2007 11:29:23

 

 

Hello pk,

 

Is the second exchange outside your network or why are you using the RAS

Server? Better disable NIC's you do not use 169.254.x.x. For which connection

do you use the 10.0.0.1 NIC?

 

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

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> Windows IP Configuration

> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : srv1

> Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : company.local

> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : company.local

> PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.28

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7761 Gigabit Server

> Adapter

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-17-A4-8B-40-18

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.1

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.254

> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.3, 10.1.72.1

> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.1

> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC3122 Fast Ethernet NIC #2

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8B-68-61-A9

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.60.1

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

> Windows IP Configuration

> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : srv2

> Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : company.local

> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : company.local

> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7781 Gigabit Server

> Adapter

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-69-EC-25

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.3

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.254

> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.72.3

> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7781 Gigabit Server

> Adapter #2

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-69-EC-24

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

> i have no access to the second exchange server. but the problem is

> clearly on the srv1 machine. not on the other ones, like i said, they

> work fine.

>

 

 

 

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From: Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS DHCP Printer reservation setting

Date: 09/20/2007 07:32:05

 

 

Read inline please.

 

In news:2B78B8E9-8B95-44CF-8BEE-8B4A9978E622@microsoft.com,

Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> I need know best practice how to deploy Printers via DHCP and

> reservation on MAC address and to update and keep DNS records. How to

> properly check box on DNS tab of DHCP reservation. I'm not sure if

> all printservers are sending request to DHCP server and asking him

> for update of DNS record. I found that some printers are able to send

> request for update.

> Is the best in this case to use "Always dynamically update DNS A and

> PTR records" checkbox generally. Can I be sure that DNS record will

> not be removed during scavenging process on DNS?

 

Set the DHCP lease time to a time that is less than the scavenging time.

 

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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

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From: Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS DHCP Printer reservation setting

Date: 09/20/2007 08:42:06

 

 

Thanks,

Could you clarify which option to use:

"Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records only if requested by the DHCP

clients"

or

"Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records"?

Which scavening time has role:

"No-refresh Interval" or "Refresh interval" or "No-refresh Interval +

Refresh Interval"

Is it there interaction between WINS client( Renew interval of WINS) and

DHCP leased time?

Is next simple formula correct: WINS renew interval < DHCP Leased time< DNS

Scavening Time?

 

--

Leos Belohlavek

 

 

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

 

> Read inline please.

>

>  In news:2B78B8E9-8B95-44CF-8BEE-8B4A9978E622@microsoft.com,

> Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> > I need know best practice how to deploy Printers via DHCP and

> > reservation on MAC address and to update and keep DNS records. How to

> > properly check box on DNS tab of DHCP reservation. I'm not sure if

> > all printservers are sending request to DHCP server and asking him

> > for update of DNS record. I found that some printers are able to send

> > request for update.

> > Is the best in this case to use "Always dynamically update DNS A and

> > PTR records" checkbox generally. Can I be sure that DNS record will

> > not be removed during scavenging process on DNS?

>

> Set the DHCP lease time to a time that is less than the scavenging time.

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

> Hope This Helps

>

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From: Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS DHCP Printer reservation setting

Date: 09/20/2007 13:30:51

 

 

Read inline please.

 

In news:C2D96012-4799-43F8-9612-F4A3B6D1DCC2@microsoft.com,

Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> Thanks,

> Could you clarify which option to use:

> "Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records only if requested by the

> DHCP clients"

> or

> "Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records"?

 

Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records.

 

For DHCP clients that cannot update DNS, in addtition to the clients that

are noted in the option, such as printers:

Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do not

request updates.

 

> Which scavening time has role:

> "No-refresh Interval" or "Refresh interval" or "No-refresh Interval +

> Refresh Interval"

 

This Article explains how DDNS and the Scavenging process work together.

How DNS dynamic updates work together with the DNS aging and scavenging

process in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932464/en-us

 

> Is it there interaction between WINS client( Renew interval of WINS)

> and DHCP leased time?

Not directly, WINS clients update their records in WINS when their IP

changes or

The default Renew interval for entries in the WINS database is six days.

Renewal occurs every three days for most WINS clients because WINS clients

attempt to renew their registrations when 50 percent of the TTL value has

elapsed.

 

> Is next simple formula correct: WINS renew interval < DHCP Leased

> time< DNS Scavening Time?

 

WINS renewal/scavenging has nothing to do with DNS scavenging.

 

 

 

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From: Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS DHCP Printer reservation setting

Date: 09/21/2007 13:50:04

 

 

In http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932464/en-us is default scavening time 7

days but DHCP default leased time is 8 days. Which one is better to change to

reflect your sentence: Set the DHCP lease time to a time that is less than

the scavenging time?

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"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

 

> Read inline please.

>

>  In news:C2D96012-4799-43F8-9612-F4A3B6D1DCC2@microsoft.com,

> Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> > Thanks,

> > Could you clarify which option to use:

> > "Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records only if requested by the

> > DHCP clients"

> > or

> > "Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records"?

>

> Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records.

>

> For DHCP clients that cannot update DNS, in addtition to the clients that

> are noted in the option, such as printers:

> Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do not

> request updates.

>

> > Which scavening time has role:

> > "No-refresh Interval" or "Refresh interval" or "No-refresh Interval +

> > Refresh Interval"

>

> This Article explains how DDNS and the Scavenging process work together.

> How DNS dynamic updates work together with the DNS aging and scavenging

> process in Windows 2000 and in Windows Server 2003:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932464/en-us

>

> > Is it there interaction between WINS client( Renew interval of WINS)

> > and DHCP leased time?

> Not directly, WINS clients update their records in WINS when their IP

> changes or

> The default Renew interval for entries in the WINS database is six days.

> Renewal occurs every three days for most WINS clients because WINS clients

> attempt to renew their registrations when 50 percent of the TTL value has

> elapsed.

>

> > Is next simple formula correct: WINS renew interval < DHCP Leased

> > time< DNS Scavening Time?

>

> WINS renewal/scavenging has nothing to do with DNS scavenging.

>

>

>

> --

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> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

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From: Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS DHCP Printer reservation setting

Date: 09/27/2007 06:22:39

 

 

In news:261A2F2F-0E43-4C5B-8080-0822BC17236F@microsoft.com,

Belohlavek <Belohlavek@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> In http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932464/en-us is default scavening

> time 7 days but DHCP default leased time is 8 days. Which one is

> better to change to reflect your sentence: Set the DHCP lease time to

> a time that is less than the scavenging time?

 

Sorry for not getting back sooner, yes, set the lease time to less than the

scavenging time.

 

 

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From: Jorge Silva <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS entries reappearing

Date: 09/25/2007 14:21:56

 

 

Hi

Is the record registered by DHCP service? Assuming that is yes, you can

enable DHCP logging and check for a given ipaddress the related MAC. Enable

Advanced view in DNS and check the properties of the DNS record (Time stamp,

when criated)

 

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Have a Nice day.

 

Jorge Silva

MCSE, MVP Directory Services

"Pigskin" <Pigskin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Is there anyway to track down where a DNS entry is registering from? The

> reason I ask is we have deleted several wireless access points from DNS

> several times and they continue to reappear.

 

 

 

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From: JakeDAHS <jskiba99@gmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS entries reappearing

Date: 09/25/2007 22:23:18

 

 

On Sep 25, 3:21 pm, "Jorge Silva" <jorgesilva...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi

> Is the record registered by DHCP service? Assuming that is yes, you can

> enable DHCP logging and check for a given ipaddress the related MAC. Enable

> Advanced view in DNS and check the properties of the DNS record (Time stamp,

> when criated)

>

> --

> I hope that the information above helps you.

> Have a Nice day.

>

> Jorge Silva

> MCSE, MVP Directory Services"Pigskin" <Pigs...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>

> news:EC70571F-184E-4170-A5EC-E8D992AA38FE@microsoft.com...

>

>

>

> > Is there anyway to track down where a DNS entry is registering from? The

> > reason I ask is we have deleted several wireless access points from DNS

> > several times and they continue to reappear.- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

possibly check for dhcp registering dns on behalf of the client.

 

-J

www.pooradmin.com

 

 

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 03:29:14

 

 

Hello dzbom,

 

Did you also checked this one:

http://help.lockergnome.com/windows2/Event-Id-4004-4014-error-ftopict455051.html

 

typo in the doc 4014 is 4015

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

 

> Hi All

>

> I got this issue currently, I have been searching for the solution,

> and reading a lot of Tags and Threads from this helpful forum as well.

> But I still can't find the solution for my particular case.

>

> Here is our system

>

> 1X 2003 server AD integrated - Domain controller

> 1X SQL server - 2003 member serrver.

> That is it.

>

> When I looked at the DNS event with the filter, the error 4015 has

> started since the server was first built. And there were about 4 DNS

> ISP IP address in TCP/IP properties, I already took them off, so that

> there is only IP address which is pointing itself 192.168.0.1.

> And it happens randomly anytime it likes, and it stops DNS server,

> only

> way to get DNS server back on line is 'RESTART" the server and that is

> a

> pain.

> So is it because there is only one DC with DNS? please confim. Any

> reply would be appreciated.

>

> Cheers

>

> http://forums.techarena.in

>

 

 

 

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From: dzbom <dzbom.2xionc@DoNotSpam.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 06:24:33

 

 

Hi

 

Thanks for your reply. I did have a look this solution but we don't

have "." root zone at the first place. So we can rule out this.

 

I am still seeking for the solution.

 

Cheers

 

 

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From: Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 07:32:40

 

 

Hello dzbom,

 

More then one option is here:

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=4015&eventno=333&source=DNS&phase=1

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

 

> Hi

>

> Thanks for your reply. I did have a look this solution but we don't

> have "." root zone at the first place. So we can rule out this.

>

> I am still seeking for the solution.

>

> Cheers

>

> http://forums.techarena.in

>

 

 

 

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From: Jorge Silva <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 12:54:26

 

 

Hi

If this error is at system startup you can ignore it.

Or you can point that server to other available DNS and check if the error

still happens.

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I hope that the information above helps you.

Have a Nice day.

 

Jorge Silva

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"Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message

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> Hello dzbom,

>

> More then one option is here:

> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=4015&eventno=333&source=DNS&phase=1

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights.

>

>> Hi

>>

>> Thanks for your reply. I did have a look this solution but we don't

>> have "." root zone at the first place. So we can rule out this.

>>

>> I am still seeking for the solution.

>>

>> Cheers

>>

>> http://forums.techarena.in

>>

>

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From: dzbom <dzbom.2xjgfe@DoNotSpam.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 17:08:44

 

 

To Meinolf

 

Thanks for your link and reply. I have been there and tried all of them

but no go.

 

To Jorge

 

Thanks for your suggestion, as I mentioned early, it happens randomly

and I does not happen when start up and unfortunately I have only one

DC with DNS :(.

 

Much appreciated your replies.

 

Please help. Thanks

 

 

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From: Jorge Silva <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 18:50:24

 

 

run dcdiag and netdiag check for errors.

 

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Have a Nice day.

 

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>

> To Meinolf

>

> Thanks for your link and reply. I have been there and tried all of them

> but no go.

>

> To Jorge

>

> Thanks for your suggestion, as I mentioned early, it happens randomly

> and I does not happen when start up and unfortunately I have only one

> DC with DNS :(.

>

> Much appreciated your replies.

>

> Please help. Thanks

>

>

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From: dzbom <dzbom.2xjorc@DoNotSpam.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/26/2007 19:29:11

 

 

Hi Jorge

 

I did that too that is how I found the problem with 4 ISP DNS IP

address sitting in the TCP/IP properties, I already got rid of them

from TCP/IP properties. However I am not expert on dcdiag and netdiag,

perhaps I run them again and post here for experts to have a look.

Thanks for that

 

Cheers

 

 

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From: dzbom <dzbom.2xm03g@DoNotSpam.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Error 4004 and 4015

Date: 09/28/2007 01:27:23

 

 

Hi all

 

I read and read thru 2 dcdiag and netdiag logs I could not find any

errors, howver I am hoping that I fixed this issue. What I did was that

I rang the ISP to find out the DNS server IP for name resolution, they

gave me 2 IPs (primary and second) and they are totally different from

the ones in our DNS server and DHCP server, so I think because the DNS

server could not resolve those wrong IP address ones in our system. it

gave that error.

Let see how it goes this time. I will update so that it would be good

for everyone.

 

Cheers

 

 

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From: Anthony <anthony.spam@spammedout.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Date: 09/20/2007 13:06:42

 

 

Two different issues:

Root hints are a sort of default forwarder for the Internet. They are there

so that if you forget to apply a forwarder it still works. I can't see a

reason not to use your ISP DNS as the forwarder.

Whether you want to use your HQ DNS as a collecting point for external DNS

queries depends on your network topology. Let's say Branch A needs to

resolve hosts at Branch B. Should it hold a copy of BranchB DNS zone, or ask

a central point at HQ? However it is going out to the internet from its own

router, so do you want to query HQ for every internet address, or stay

local? Lots of permutations and no right answer.

Anthony,

http://www.airdesk.co.uk

 

 

 

"Lasse" <Lasse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F5880039-3103-407C-9C2E-87858A4DCB7A@microsoft.com...

> Hi

>

> We are currently using root hints and I am considering changing to DNS

> forwarders. Any opinions regarding this?

>

> We have 4 departments, HQ and 3 branch offices. The branchs offices

> connect

> to HQ through VPN tunnels and are all configured as DNS servers using root

> hints.

> The IP settings use the local server as primary DNS server and the HQ

> server

> as secondary.

> I was wondering if i should change all the branch office servers to use

> DNS

> forwarders pointing to the HQ server and the setup the HQ server to point

> to

> the ISP DNS server.

>

> Does this sound like a bad idea?

 

 

 

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From: Danny Sanders <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Date: 09/20/2007 15:26:37

 

 

>> We are currently using root hints and I am considering changing to DNS

>> forwarders. Any opinions regarding this?

 

The only issue would be "how reliable is the ISP's DNS servers?" If they are

up "24 - 7" then take your pick as to use them or not. If they have outages

you might be better off using root hints.

 

 

>> I was wondering if i should change all the branch office servers to use

>> DNS

>> forwarders pointing to the HQ server and the setup the HQ server to point

>> to

>> the ISP DNS server.

>>

>> Does this sound like a bad idea?

 

See:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/275278/

 

hth

DDS

 

 

"Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message

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> Two different issues:

> Root hints are a sort of default forwarder for the Internet. They are

> there so that if you forget to apply a forwarder it still works. I can't

> see a reason not to use your ISP DNS as the forwarder.

> Whether you want to use your HQ DNS as a collecting point for external DNS

> queries depends on your network topology. Let's say Branch A needs to

> resolve hosts at Branch B. Should it hold a copy of BranchB DNS zone, or

> ask a central point at HQ? However it is going out to the internet from

> its own router, so do you want to query HQ for every internet address, or

> stay local? Lots of permutations and no right answer.

> Anthony,

> http://www.airdesk.co.uk

>

>

>

> "Lasse" <Lasse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:F5880039-3103-407C-9C2E-87858A4DCB7A@microsoft.com...

>> Hi

>>

>> We are currently using root hints and I am considering changing to DNS

>> forwarders. Any opinions regarding this?

>>

>> We have 4 departments, HQ and 3 branch offices. The branchs offices

>> connect

>> to HQ through VPN tunnels and are all configured as DNS servers using

>> root

>> hints.

>> The IP settings use the local server as primary DNS server and the HQ

>> server

>> as secondary.

>> I was wondering if i should change all the branch office servers to use

>> DNS

>> forwarders pointing to the HQ server and the setup the HQ server to point

>> to

>> the ISP DNS server.

>>

>> Does this sound like a bad idea?

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Lasse <Lasse@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Date: 09/21/2007 02:20:00

 

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

All our branchs offices connect to the internet through HQ so it shouldn't

be a problem that they query the DNS at HQ.

Each location holds a copy of the DNS zone.

 

"Anthony" wrote:

 

> Two different issues:

> Root hints are a sort of default forwarder for the Internet. They are there

> so that if you forget to apply a forwarder it still works. I can't see a

> reason not to use your ISP DNS as the forwarder.

> Whether you want to use your HQ DNS as a collecting point for external DNS

> queries depends on your network topology. Let's say Branch A needs to

> resolve hosts at Branch B. Should it hold a copy of BranchB DNS zone, or ask

> a central point at HQ? However it is going out to the internet from its own

> router, so do you want to query HQ for every internet address, or stay

> local? Lots of permutations and no right answer.

> Anthony,

> http://www.airdesk.co.uk

>

>

>

> "Lasse" <Lasse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:F5880039-3103-407C-9C2E-87858A4DCB7A@microsoft.com...

> > Hi

> >

> > We are currently using root hints and I am considering changing to DNS

> > forwarders. Any opinions regarding this?

> >

> > We have 4 departments, HQ and 3 branch offices. The branchs offices

> > connect

> > to HQ through VPN tunnels and are all configured as DNS servers using root

> > hints.

> > The IP settings use the local server as primary DNS server and the HQ

> > server

> > as secondary.

> > I was wondering if i should change all the branch office servers to use

> > DNS

> > forwarders pointing to the HQ server and the setup the HQ server to point

> > to

> > the ISP DNS server.

> >

> > Does this sound like a bad idea?

>

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Anthony <anthony.spam@spammedout.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Date: 09/21/2007 03:49:32

 

 

In that case I would probably choose for them to forward to the HQ DNS. That

way you can manage future changes to DNS a little more easily.

Anthony,

http://www.airdesk.co.uk

 

 

 

 

 

"Lasse" <Lasse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F0D2121C-9970-4F2C-896F-4791E0E1B818@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the reply.

>

> All our branchs offices connect to the internet through HQ so it shouldn't

> be a problem that they query the DNS at HQ.

> Each location holds a copy of the DNS zone.

>

> "Anthony" wrote:

>

>> Two different issues:

>> Root hints are a sort of default forwarder for the Internet. They are

>> there

>> so that if you forget to apply a forwarder it still works. I can't see a

>> reason not to use your ISP DNS as the forwarder.

>> Whether you want to use your HQ DNS as a collecting point for external

>> DNS

>> queries depends on your network topology. Let's say Branch A needs to

>> resolve hosts at Branch B. Should it hold a copy of BranchB DNS zone, or

>> ask

>> a central point at HQ? However it is going out to the internet from its

>> own

>> router, so do you want to query HQ for every internet address, or stay

>> local? Lots of permutations and no right answer.

>> Anthony,

>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk

>>

>>

>>

>> "Lasse" <Lasse@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:F5880039-3103-407C-9C2E-87858A4DCB7A@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi

>> >

>> > We are currently using root hints and I am considering changing to DNS

>> > forwarders. Any opinions regarding this?

>> >

>> > We have 4 departments, HQ and 3 branch offices. The branchs offices

>> > connect

>> > to HQ through VPN tunnels and are all configured as DNS servers using

>> > root

>> > hints.

>> > The IP settings use the local server as primary DNS server and the HQ

>> > server

>> > as secondary.

>> > I was wondering if i should change all the branch office servers to use

>> > DNS

>> > forwarders pointing to the HQ server and the setup the HQ server to

>> > point

>> > to

>> > the ISP DNS server.

>> >

>> > Does this sound like a bad idea?

>>

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: ObiWan [MVP] <obiwan@mvps.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Date: 09/24/2007 10:34:56

 

 

> We are currently using root hints and I am considering

> changing to DNS forwarders. Any opinions regarding this?

 

Yes; DNS forwarders must only be used in TWO scenarios;

first, you have a slow WAN link so you want to avoid timeouts

and to do so, you decide to forward all your queries toward

external resolvers; second, you have some other domains

for which you also handle DNS servers, in this case you may

want to configure conditional forwarding so that queries for

those domains will be directly forwarded to the auth servers

 

as a rule of thumb, NEVER use forwarders if you can't 100%

trust them and/or if you don't have FULL control over them

the reason is simple; let's say you use your ISP DNS servers

as forwarders, those servers are a BIG target for any attacker

since hitting them will result in a hit for a lot of people, so, say

someone starts attacking your ISP DNS servers and poisons

them; at this point the poisoning will hit YOUR DNS too !! While

running a standard, recursive DNS (using root-hints) would

protect you from such an issue

 

HTH

 

 

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From: ObiWan [MVP] <obiwan@mvps.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS forwarders versus Root hints

Date: 09/24/2007 10:36:57

 

 

> In that case I would probably choose for them to forward to the HQ

> DNS. That way you can manage future changes to DNS a little more

> easily. Anthony,

 

agreed 100% and.. not just for the above reason, but using such a

config, the HQ may (if needed) implement DNS filtering to cut-off

unwanted sites; also, setting up at least a couple of DNS servers

at HQ running as recursive resolvers will maximize the caching

efficiency for DNS queries and this in turn will help speeding up

things :)

 

 

--

 

* ObiWan

 

Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - Networking

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/MVP/MVP.mspx

http://italy.mvps.org

 

 

 

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From: Jorge Silva <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Issue

Date: 09/26/2007 19:04:29

 

 

Hi

Assuming that you're talking about multihomed server do a search in google

and check the problems related and configurations.

 

--

I hope that the information above helps you.

Have a Nice day.

 

Jorge Silva

MCSE, MVP Directory Services

"RONCO" <RONCO@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:74B67EE5-B95F-4E96-BB74-A13B93760C65@microsoft.com...

> Hi All,

>

> I have three Windows 2003 servers two at the main location (srv1& srv2)

> and

> one in a different town (srv4). Installed and running is remote access

> connection using pptp and DNS. I am also running dfs.  File replication is

> occurring correctly and AD updates on all DCs. Ah, WINS is also installed.

>

>

> My question is I cannot figure out why when I run net view or network

> neighborhood I cannot see the remote site srv4 from srv1. However, when I

> go

> to Windows Explorer and issue \\srv4 it connects. I can see srv1 & srv2

> and

> domain PCs from srv4 with net view and network neighborhood.

>

> Dcdiag runs clean. I am receiving the following warning from netdiag:

>

> DNS test . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Passed

>          [WARNING] Cannot find a primary authoritative DNS server for the

> name

>            'srv1.corp.mycompany.com.'. [ERROR_TIMEOUT]

>            The name 'srv1.corp.mycompany.com.' may not be registered in

> DNS.

>    PASS - All the DNS entries for DC are registered on DNS server

> '192.168.0.10' and other DCs also have some of the names registered.

>    PASS - All the DNS entries for DC are registered on DNS server

> '192.168.1.10' and other DCs also have some of the names registered.

>

> NOTE: I have masked the server name.

>

> I am not sure where the warning is coming from as I have looked at the dns

> entries and the server is listed as the SOA. Not sure what other DC are

> either. There should only be 2 one on srv1 and one on srv4.

>

> Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. I have been

> trying

> to solve this issue for days.

>

 

 

 

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From: ObiWan [MVP] <obiwan@mvps.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS issues?

Date: 09/24/2007 10:14:53

 

 

> Any other way to troubleshoot this?

 

Aside from troubleshooting; when it comes

to WAN links it's usually a good idea avoiding

to point clients to machines on the other side of

the WAN for "routine" tasks like DNS resolution,

in your case it would be a better idea pointing

the client only to the DNS sitting on your side

and, if needed add a second DNS on your side

this way, all the DNS traffic will flow from your

clients toward your LOCAL DNS server(s) and

it will handle (if needed) the external queries

and cache results, this will *also* improve the

overall performance of the WAN link

 

HTH

 

 

 

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From: Wayne Smith <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 09:56:48

 

 

 

Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

--

Many thanks

Wayne

 

  "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

  Hello Wayne,

 

  Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

  Best regards

 

  Meinolf Weber

  Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

  no rights.

 

  > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

  > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

  > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

  > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

  > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

  >

 

 

 

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From: Anthony <anthony.spam@spammedout.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 10:20:27

 

 

 

Wayne,

You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

Anthony

http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

"Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

  Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

  I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

  For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

  The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

  I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

  I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

  Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

  --

  Many thanks

  Wayne

 

    "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

    Hello Wayne,

 

    Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

    Best regards

 

    Meinolf Weber

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

    no rights.

 

    > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

    > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

    > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

    > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

    > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

    >

 

 

 

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From: Wayne Smith <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 10:35:18

 

 

 

The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

--

Many thanks

Wayne

 

  "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

  Wayne,

  You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

  Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

  Anthony

  http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

  "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

    Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

    I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

    For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

    The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

    I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

    I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

    Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

    --

    Many thanks

    Wayne

 

      "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

      Hello Wayne,

 

      Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

      Best regards

 

      Meinolf Weber

      Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

      no rights.

 

      > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

      > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

      > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

      > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

      > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

      >

 

 

 

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From: Anthony <anthony.spam@spammedout.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 12:09:51

 

 

 

Hi Wayne,

OK, you want to run a web site. Tell the ISP to set the DNS so that www.yourdomain.co.uk is pointing to the external address of your web server.

You can probably also log on to the ISP site and amend the DNS yourself.

At present, the ISP is running the DNS for that domain, so either he makes the changes, or you make them on his web site.

Hope that helps,

Anthony

http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

  "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OeVATUu9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

  The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

  I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

  --

  Many thanks

  Wayne

 

    "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

    Wayne,

    You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

    Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

    Anthony

    http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

    "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

      Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

      I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

      For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

      The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

      I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

      I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

      Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

      --

      Many thanks

      Wayne

 

        "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

        Hello Wayne,

 

        Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

        Best regards

 

        Meinolf Weber

        Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

        no rights.

 

        > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

        > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

        > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

        > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

        > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

        >

 

 

 

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From: Wayne Smith <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 12:25:29

 

Attachment N1: Emoticon1.gif

 

 

Thank you Anthony,

You've just clarified everything I thought I was doing right in the beginning. I've asked my ISP numerous times to do exactly what you have just outlined but they keep coming back with the same reply, asking what my DNS name server is - I now feel more confident that I'm not going completely mad and my request to the ISP was indeed correct from the start.

 

I will just have to be a little more forceful in my assertions with them now

 

Thanks again, I really do appreciate you clarifying everything for me.

 

--

Many thanks

Wayne

 

  "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:etCwzHv9HHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

  Hi Wayne,

  OK, you want to run a web site. Tell the ISP to set the DNS so that www.yourdomain.co.uk is pointing to the external address of your web server.

  You can probably also log on to the ISP site and amend the DNS yourself.

  At present, the ISP is running the DNS for that domain, so either he makes the changes, or you make them on his web site.

  Hope that helps,

  Anthony

  http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

    "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OeVATUu9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

    I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

    --

    Many thanks

    Wayne

 

      "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

      Wayne,

      You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

      Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

      Anthony

      http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

      "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

        Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

        I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

        For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

        The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

        I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

        I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

        Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

        --

        Many thanks

        Wayne

 

          "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

          Hello Wayne,

 

          Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

          Best regards

 

          Meinolf Weber

          Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

          no rights.

 

          > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

          > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

          > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

          > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

          > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

          >

 

 

 

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From: Anthony <anthony.spam@spammedout.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 12:37:06

 

Attachment N1: Emoticon1.gif

 

 

Wayne,

You should also be able to do it yourself online. Who is the ISP?

The source of the confusion is that sometimes people want to run their own DNS server, authoritative for their domain, and that requires the ISP, in their capacity as registrar, to change the domain details to specify the new name servers. That's a different thing from what you are trying to do.

Anthony

http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

  "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0CD99E51-D8B2-4FAD-92F9-9201100D027D@microsoft.com...

  Thank you Anthony,

  You've just clarified everything I thought I was doing right in the beginning. I've asked my ISP numerous times to do exactly what you have just outlined but they keep coming back with the same reply, asking what my DNS name server is - I now feel more confident that I'm not going completely mad and my request to the ISP was indeed correct from the start.

 

  I will just have to be a little more forceful in my assertions with them now

 

  Thanks again, I really do appreciate you clarifying everything for me.

 

  --

  Many thanks

  Wayne

 

    "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:etCwzHv9HHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

    Hi Wayne,

    OK, you want to run a web site. Tell the ISP to set the DNS so that www.yourdomain.co.uk is pointing to the external address of your web server.

    You can probably also log on to the ISP site and amend the DNS yourself.

    At present, the ISP is running the DNS for that domain, so either he makes the changes, or you make them on his web site.

    Hope that helps,

    Anthony

    http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

      "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OeVATUu9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

      The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

      I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

      --

      Many thanks

      Wayne

 

        "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

        Wayne,

        You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

        Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

        Anthony

        http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

        "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

          Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

          I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

          For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

          The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

          I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

          I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

          Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

          --

          Many thanks

          Wayne

 

            "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

            Hello Wayne,

 

            Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

            Best regards

 

            Meinolf Weber

            Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

            no rights.

 

            > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

            > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

            > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

            > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

            > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

            >

 

 

 

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From: Wayne Smith <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 12:50:00

 

Attachment N1: Emoticon1.gif

 

 

Hello Anthony,

My ISP is different from the company hosting my web site - does that matter in the context of what I'm trying to do?

 

The company currently hosting my web site is www.streamline.net

 

It's probably of little use but if you want to read the ping pong exchange of messages I've been sending and receiving with streamline, I'll be happy to email them to you and you can read through everything we've exchanged and see if you still think I'm right in what I'm trying to do, it's entirely up to you but I would rather not post it here in a public newsgroup.

 

--

Many thanks

Wayne

 

  "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:O51qcXv9HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

  Wayne,

  You should also be able to do it yourself online. Who is the ISP?

  The source of the confusion is that sometimes people want to run their own DNS server, authoritative for their domain, and that requires the ISP, in their capacity as registrar, to change the domain details to specify the new name servers. That's a different thing from what you are trying to do.

  Anthony

  http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

    "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0CD99E51-D8B2-4FAD-92F9-9201100D027D@microsoft.com...

    Thank you Anthony,

    You've just clarified everything I thought I was doing right in the beginning. I've asked my ISP numerous times to do exactly what you have just outlined but they keep coming back with the same reply, asking what my DNS name server is - I now feel more confident that I'm not going completely mad and my request to the ISP was indeed correct from the start.

 

    I will just have to be a little more forceful in my assertions with them now

 

    Thanks again, I really do appreciate you clarifying everything for me.

 

    --

    Many thanks

    Wayne

 

      "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:etCwzHv9HHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

      Hi Wayne,

      OK, you want to run a web site. Tell the ISP to set the DNS so that www.yourdomain.co.uk is pointing to the external address of your web server.

      You can probably also log on to the ISP site and amend the DNS yourself.

      At present, the ISP is running the DNS for that domain, so either he makes the changes, or you make them on his web site.

      Hope that helps,

      Anthony

      http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

        "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OeVATUu9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

        The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

        I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

        --

        Many thanks

        Wayne

 

          "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

          Wayne,

          You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

          Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

          Anthony

          http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

          "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

            Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

            I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

            For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

            The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

            I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

            I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

            Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

            --

            Many thanks

            Wayne

 

              "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

              Hello Wayne,

 

              Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

              Best regards

 

              Meinolf Weber

              Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

              no rights.

 

              > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

              > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

              > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

              > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

              > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

              >

 

 

 

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From: Anthony <anthony.spam@spammedout.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 14:05:50

 

Attachment N1: Emoticon1.gif

 

 

Wayne,

You are welcome to post a contact address at http://www.airdesk.com/contact.aspx and then we can have a look.

We are probably confusing a few different terms:

- Someone is the registrar for your web domain

- They normally run the DNS server that is authoritative for your domain

- They are the people that you need to ask to point www.yourdomain.com to your server

It looks as though in this case it is Streamline you need to be talking to.

Hope that helps,

Anthony,

http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

  "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:54AF8DC3-9999-4446-BE2D-7BAFA0CB94EE@microsoft.com...

  Hello Anthony,

  My ISP is different from the company hosting my web site - does that matter in the context of what I'm trying to do?

 

  The company currently hosting my web site is www.streamline.net

 

  It's probably of little use but if you want to read the ping pong exchange of messages I've been sending and receiving with streamline, I'll be happy to email them to you and you can read through everything we've exchanged and see if you still think I'm right in what I'm trying to do, it's entirely up to you but I would rather not post it here in a public newsgroup.

 

  --

  Many thanks

  Wayne

 

    "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:O51qcXv9HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

    Wayne,

    You should also be able to do it yourself online. Who is the ISP?

    The source of the confusion is that sometimes people want to run their own DNS server, authoritative for their domain, and that requires the ISP, in their capacity as registrar, to change the domain details to specify the new name servers. That's a different thing from what you are trying to do.

    Anthony

    http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

      "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0CD99E51-D8B2-4FAD-92F9-9201100D027D@microsoft.com...

      Thank you Anthony,

      You've just clarified everything I thought I was doing right in the beginning. I've asked my ISP numerous times to do exactly what you have just outlined but they keep coming back with the same reply, asking what my DNS name server is - I now feel more confident that I'm not going completely mad and my request to the ISP was indeed correct from the start.

 

      I will just have to be a little more forceful in my assertions with them now

 

      Thanks again, I really do appreciate you clarifying everything for me.

 

      --

      Many thanks

      Wayne

 

        "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:etCwzHv9HHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

        Hi Wayne,

        OK, you want to run a web site. Tell the ISP to set the DNS so that www.yourdomain.co.uk is pointing to the external address of your web server.

        You can probably also log on to the ISP site and amend the DNS yourself.

        At present, the ISP is running the DNS for that domain, so either he makes the changes, or you make them on his web site.

        Hope that helps,

        Anthony

        http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

          "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OeVATUu9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

          The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

          I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

          --

          Many thanks

          Wayne

 

            "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

            Wayne,

            You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

            Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

            Anthony

            http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

            "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

              Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

              I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

              For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

              The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

              I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

              I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

              Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

              --

              Many thanks

              Wayne

 

                "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

                Hello Wayne,

 

                Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

                Best regards

 

                Meinolf Weber

                Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

                no rights.

 

                > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

                > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

                > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

                > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

                > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

                >

 

 

 

Top


 

 

 

From: Wayne Smith <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: DNS Name server

Date: 09/14/2007 14:54:37

 

Attachment N1: Emoticon1.gif

 

 

Hi Anthony,

I've just sent you a message through the web page you gave me but when I clicked send it reloaded the same page with my message, so I'm not sure if it went through or not. Can you check if you've received it

 

--

Many thanks

Wayne

 

  "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:udKrMJw9HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

  Wayne,

  You are welcome to post a contact address at http://www.airdesk.com/contact.aspx and then we can have a look.

  We are probably confusing a few different terms:

  - Someone is the registrar for your web domain

  - They normally run the DNS server that is authoritative for your domain

  - They are the people that you need to ask to point www.yourdomain.com to your server

  It looks as though in this case it is Streamline you need to be talking to.

  Hope that helps,

  Anthony,

  http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

    "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:54AF8DC3-9999-4446-BE2D-7BAFA0CB94EE@microsoft.com...

    Hello Anthony,

    My ISP is different from the company hosting my web site - does that matter in the context of what I'm trying to do?

 

    The company currently hosting my web site is www.streamline.net

 

    It's probably of little use but if you want to read the ping pong exchange of messages I've been sending and receiving with streamline, I'll be happy to email them to you and you can read through everything we've exchanged and see if you still think I'm right in what I'm trying to do, it's entirely up to you but I would rather not post it here in a public newsgroup.

 

    --

    Many thanks

    Wayne

 

      "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:O51qcXv9HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

      Wayne,

      You should also be able to do it yourself online. Who is the ISP?

      The source of the confusion is that sometimes people want to run their own DNS server, authoritative for their domain, and that requires the ISP, in their capacity as registrar, to change the domain details to specify the new name servers. That's a different thing from what you are trying to do.

      Anthony

      http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

        "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0CD99E51-D8B2-4FAD-92F9-9201100D027D@microsoft.com...

        Thank you Anthony,

        You've just clarified everything I thought I was doing right in the beginning. I've asked my ISP numerous times to do exactly what you have just outlined but they keep coming back with the same reply, asking what my DNS name server is - I now feel more confident that I'm not going completely mad and my request to the ISP was indeed correct from the start.

 

        I will just have to be a little more forceful in my assertions with them now

 

        Thanks again, I really do appreciate you clarifying everything for me.

 

        --

        Many thanks

        Wayne

 

          "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:etCwzHv9HHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

          Hi Wayne,

          OK, you want to run a web site. Tell the ISP to set the DNS so that www.yourdomain.co.uk is pointing to the external address of your web server.

          You can probably also log on to the ISP site and amend the DNS yourself.

          At present, the ISP is running the DNS for that domain, so either he makes the changes, or you make them on his web site.

          Hope that helps,

          Anthony

          http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

            "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OeVATUu9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

            The purpose of setting up this server is to host a domain name that I currently have hosted with my hosting provider, currently when I navigate to my home page at www.mydomain.co.uk it takes me to the test site I've uploaded to my hosting provider, but ideally I want to host that site on this server, so navigating to www.mydomain.co.uk will bring up the web site I currently have configured within IIS 7 on this Longhorn server.

 

            I simply want to run this box as a web server so I have more control over the configuration and services of the web site I'm rolling out. The purpose of testing everything now is simply so I can iron out any bugs and problems before the site goes onto a production web server, and it's much easier to do that when everything is under my control on a server in front of me, instead of asking my hosting provider to reconfigure elements and services each time I want to make changes.

 

            --

            Many thanks

            Wayne

 

              "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uk5V1Ku9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

              Wayne,

              You are just at cross-purposes with the ISP.

              Can you explain what you are trying to do with your server? Is it running services over the internet, or is it an internal LAN server?

              Anthony

              http://www.airdesk.com

 

 

 

 

 

              "Wayne Smith" <waynesmith1971(NoSpam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5B0EB3D9-EFA2-491A-B290-72F220F09F16@microsoft.com...

                Thanks for replying to my message, I knew it was a silly question but I'm having a heated debate with my hosting provider by email at the moment and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. I would be very grateful if you could tell me what I'm missing because I can't seem to make my hosting provider understand and I fear that it is my inexperience with DNS that is causing the problems.

 

                I've set up a test environment with Windows Server 2008 (Longhorn) and I want to host a domain name on this server that I currently have registered and hosted with a hosting company.

 

                For the sake of this post, I have named this server 'myserver' and during the setup and configuration of the Domain Controller and DNS, I configured the domain name as 'mydomain.co.uk', which is identical to the domain name I currently have hosted with my provider. Therefore, my Full computer name is: myserver.mydomain.co.uk.

 

                The server is configured as a Domain Controller with DNS and DHCP, the DNS is configured with forward lookup zones only. I have asked my hosting provider to change the DNS records to point to this server and static IP address but they keep replying with the same message, asking what my DNS name server is and in my mind the DNS name server for the Longhorn server I've setup and configured is either 'mydomain.co.uk' or 'myserver.mydomain.co.uk' but every time I explain this they say it should be in the format of 'ns1.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.192.250) and 'ns2.livedns.co.uk' (213.171.193.250).

 

                I fully understand that I should ideally have two name servers but for the sake of this test environment I only have the one configured but I've asked them to update both records with the same DNS name server.

 

                I genuinely cannot see what I'm doing wrong and it's frustrating me beyond words. just because I haven't named my DNS server with an 'ns1' or 'ns2' at the start of the name doesn't mean it's not a name server, does it?

 

                Please help me to understand before I go grey, or worse still bald.

 

                --

                Many thanks

                Wayne

 

                  "Meinolf Weber" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message news:ff16fb665535e8c9c4bbca122526@msnews.microsoft.com...

                  Hello Wayne,

 

                  Just 2 names for the same thing. Nothing different.

 

                  Best regards

 

                  Meinolf Weber

                  Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

                  no rights.

 

                  > This is probably a really silly question but I'm curious what the

                  > difference is between a DNS Server and a DNS Name server, I assumed

                  > that when you setup and configured a DNS Server it was automatically a

                  > name server, but I'm guessing that's not the case? and if not, what do

                  > you have to do to change a DNS Server into a DNS Name server?

                  >

 

 

 

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