From: Ravi K <Ravi
K@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: ICS Between XP SP2 and Vista.
Date:
02/02/2007 06:49:00
Disabling
ICS public connection from ICS client is supported in Vista also.
In Vista network
window, right click menu on "Residential Gateway" has the
option
to enable/disable ICS public connection. For this option to show up in
right
click menu, Network sharing need to be enabled and machine should have
got
192.168.0.X address.
Does
right clicking on Residential Gateway icon couple of times helped in
getting
the required option?
Also
please check if connecting laptop directly (without router, using wired
connection)
to XP machine, makes the option appear in right click menu.
The
above information might help in understanding why disable option is not
coming
for you.
"Chris
S." wrote:
>
I have a question regarding ICS between XP and Vista. I
have a desktop
>
system running XP SP2 that is using a dialup connection to the internet
>
(unfortunately broadband isnt an option for our area yet). That
system is
>
setup for ICS on the dialup. I have a laptop that is dual booting
between XP
>
and Vista currently that is connecting to the
XP box via a linksys router
>
that is basically configured to be a dumb hub to connect the wireless to
the
>
wired network. When using XP on the laptop I am able to control the
dialup
>
and disconnect of the ICS on the main XP system by clicking on the internet
>
gateway that shows up in network connections. it also displays a
network
>
icon on the task bar by the clock when it is dialed up and I can click it
to
>
disconnect when I'm done. Since setting up Vista I seem to
not be able to
>
take control of the modem on the XP box with ICS. I see a resident
gateway
>
pop up in the Vista network window and can right
click on it for properties
>
and it says that its the ICS connection on the XP box but no control of it.
>
The XP box will dial out when vista makes a request by launching IE or
>
another internet app just fine but I have no control to make it hang up
when
>
I'm done unless I boot back into XP and tell it to disconnect there.
I
>
disabled UPnP on the linksys router since it was displaying 2 of the
resident
>
gateways with it enabled thinking it was getting confused but have not had
>
any luck gaining control of the modem from Vista.
>
>
I have the XP box wired into the router and the laptop connects to the
>
router via wireless and obtains the IP from the XP box running ICS (DHCP on
>
the router is disabled on the LAN side). This setup runs
flawless when its
>
XP to XP but the solution to getting vista to let me control the modem
>
connect disconnect eludes me. I do have the options set to let others
>
control the connection on the XP box and nothing has changed on that side
so
>
its definitely vista not cooperating very well
>
>
Anyone have any suggestions on how to get control of the ICS connecton
>
inside of Vista so that I dont have to dual boot
just to disconect the line?
>
>
Sorry for the lengthy post :)
>
Chris
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From: BSchnur <BSchnur@cox.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Installing Novell Client on Windows Vista
Date:
02/02/2007 23:42:56
>
Novell is dead (IMO) , because without a client for vista most user
>
want migrate to windows 2003 for having a better integration
There
will be a client for Vista -- it is
definitely in the works:
http://www.novell.com/products/clients/
I
expect there will be a public beta of the Novell client in the next
month
or so.
--
Barry
Schnur
Novell
Support Connection Volunteer Sysop
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From: BSchnur <BSchnur@cox.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Installing Novell Client on Windows Vista
Date:
02/02/2007 23:44:16
By
the way, if you have NetWare 6.5 then you can access the NetWare
server
with Vista (any version) using NFA/CIFS --
though you need to
tweak
the Vista authentication handling.
--
Barry
Schnur
Novell
Support Connection Volunteer Sysop
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From: BSchnur <BSchnur@cox.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Installing Novell Client on Windows Vista
Date:
02/03/2007 00:11:02
By
the way, a 'preview' build of the Novell client is now available:
http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=yIEJzwGwlu0~
--
Barry
Schnur
Novell
Support Connection Volunteer Sysop
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From: <Jeff_giampetro@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: internet connection problems
Date:
02/06/2007 09:59:26
check
your firewall settings my linksys router is in compable with vista
might
have simular problems
"bova80"
<bova80@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:61AF810C-7F90-4CE6-8F49-A96630FE47A4@microsoft.com...
>
OK perhaps someone can help me with this. when at home on a
comcast
>
cable
>
connection connected through a link sys router everything works great.
>
but
>
now that i am at school all is not so great. at first i thought it
was
>
because i was behind a netgear router but i am using it as a switch.
now
>
some webpages load but some do not or in some cases if the address is
>
forwarded it will not work. all this worked under windows xp but now
does
>
not under vista
>
>
also i used outlook under xp and was able to get my outside mail which is
>
setup with pop access, but now under vista it will not connect. other
>
programs have the same problem not connected such as my avg virus software
>
and windows media center, can't connect for guide setup. so if
someone
>
could
>
please enlighten me i would appreciate it, i thought it was ipv6 but i
>
disabled that and still have the problem. i am confused. an example
is
>
if i
>
want to go to espn.com i simply can't type that, i have to type
>
espn.go.com.
>
i have a xp laptop on the same network here at school and it works
>
perfect,
>
just flaws with vista.
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From: bova80
<bova80@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: internet connection problems
Date:
02/06/2007 11:31:03
checked
the firewall, even disabled it and the vista firewall and still
having
the same problem. its just odd that everything works fine on xp but
not
on vista with the same exact settings. so its something in vista.
"Jeff_giampetro@hotmail.com"
wrote:
>
check your firewall settings my linksys router is in compable with vista
>
might have simular problems
>
>
"bova80" <bova80@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>
news:61AF810C-7F90-4CE6-8F49-A96630FE47A4@microsoft.com...
>
> OK perhaps someone can help me with this. when at home on
a comcast
>
> cable
>
> connection connected through a link sys router everything works great.
>
> but
>
> now that i am at school all is not so great. at first i thought
it was
>
> because i was behind a netgear router but i am using it as a
switch. now
>
> some webpages load but some do not or in some cases if the address is
>
> forwarded it will not work. all this worked under windows xp but
now does
>
> not under vista
>
>
>
> also i used outlook under xp and was able to get my outside mail which
is
>
> setup with pop access, but now under vista it will not connect.
other
>
> programs have the same problem not connected such as my avg virus
software
>
> and windows media center, can't connect for guide setup. so if
someone
>
> could
>
> please enlighten me i would appreciate it, i thought it was ipv6 but i
>
> disabled that and still have the problem. i am confused.
an example is
>
> if i
>
> want to go to espn.com i simply can't type that, i have to type
>
> espn.go.com.
>
> i have a xp laptop on the same network here at school and it works
>
> perfect,
>
> just flaws with vista.
>
>
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From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Internet Connection Speed
Date:
02/05/2007 15:39:02
Robert,
I'm
sorry you're experiencing problems. Did you know that you can turn on
the
activity animation in the network icon in the tray? Right click on
the
icon,
then choose, "Turn on activity animation." That will help
you 'see'
the
traffic.
Then,
you can find the relative speed of the connection by going to the
Network
and Sharing Center (in the
same right click menu from above), and
selecting
"Manage network connections" in the left blue navigation bar.
Right
click on the network you're interested in, and then select
"Status".
That
status page should show you the speed of the network.
I
hope this helps.
"Robert
W" wrote:
>
In WIndows XP with UPNP and Gateway Discovery enabled an Internet
Connection
>
icon was created in the System Tray so you could see the actual internet
>
activity on your gateway, it also had the benefit of quickly telling you
the
>
current speed of yor internet connection e.g 2.9Mbps.
>
>
In Vista I can find no way to do, I don't
have an Internet Connection icon
>
in Network unlike XP, it would seem that to use IGDDC I have to share the
>
connection to see an icon, sharing implies using ICS, why would I need to
do
>
this when my workstations access the network via a common router, this
>
controls access to the Internet not a master PC.
>
>
Is there anyway to do this or do I need to access the router to check this
>
info now which is a slight annoyance. Am I missing something simple, I
assume
>
UPNP is already enabled in Vista as unlike
XP you had to install it?
>
>
Cheers
>
>
--
>
Robert W
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From: Eric Cross [MVP]
<ecross4@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Internet Sharing Vista Host to XP
Client
Date:
02/03/2007 12:53:29
Hello
Tudor,
Would
you try providing the ipconfig/all output from both computers so we
can
further diagnose the issue? If you haven't already, you might have a
look
at Troubleshooting Internet Connection Sharing on Windows XP.
Troubleshooting
Internet Connection Sharing on Microsoft Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1DCFF3CE-F50F-4A34-AE67-CAC31CCD7BC9?
--
Eric
Cross
Microsoft
MVP (Windows Networking)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
"Tudor"
<Tudor@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:82C4385F-1B6A-4610-8E98-610E890196F6@microsoft.com...
>I
have a problem with sharing my Internet Connection from a Vista host to a
>
XP client in a wired network. Before installing Vista, the
connection
>
worked
>
fine on a XP host.
>
Right now, on the Vista computer,
if I scan the network, the XP computer
>
appears in the list, so as far as I can see all the cables are ok. I have
>
ICS
>
activated on the Vista host, but
when I try connecting from the XP client
>
to
>
the host, I get "Limited or no connectivity", because it can't
assing any
>
ip
>
to the XP client or something like that.
>
Any suggestions?
>
Thanks,
>
-Tudor
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From: misha <m.wawrzynski@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Internet Sharing Vista Host to XP
Client
Date:
02/04/2007 15:35:12
Hi
Eric,
I
have the same problem, so please have a look here - I am sorry for
polish
description, I am sure you'll get the overview ;-)
Microsoft
Windows [Wersja 6.0.6000]
Copyright
(c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. Wszelkie prawa zastrzeŋone.
C:\Users\MishA>ipconfig
/all
Konfiguracja
IP systemu Windows
Nazwa hosta . . . . . . . . . . . : MishA-PC
Sufiks podstawowej domeny DNS . . :
Typ węzģa . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrydowy
Routing IP wģđczony . . . . . . . : Nie
Serwer WINS Proxy wģđczony. . . . : Nie
Lista przeszukiwania sufiksów DNS : home.aster.pl
Karta
Ethernet Poģđczenie lokalne 2:
Sufiks DNS konkretnego poģđczenia : home.aster.pl
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5101 USB
Cable
Modem
Adres fizyczny. . . . . . . . . . : 00-14-04-xx-xx-xx (edited)
DHCP wģđczone . . . . . . . . . . : Tak
Autokonfiguracja wģđczona . . . . : Tak
Adres IPv6. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:52d2:8f12:9:54ae:3d3e:f57c:
6aa5(Pref
erowane)
Adres IPv6 lokacji lokalnej . . . : fec0::9:54ae:3d3e:f57c:
6aa5%2(Preferowane
)
Tymczasowy adres IPv6 . . . . . . :
2002:52d2:8f12:9:90b2:72c2:8519:a500(Pref
erowane)
Adres IPv6 poģđczenia lokalnego . : fe80::54ae:3d3e:f57c:
6aa5%9(Preferowane)
Adres IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.210.143.18(Preferowane)
Maska podsieci. . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0
Dzierŋawa uzyskana. . . . . . . . : 4 lutego 2007 20:30:49
Dzierŋawa wygasa. . . . . . . . . : 5 lutego 2007 20:29:53
Brama domy?lna. . . . . . . . . . : 82.210.143.254
Serwer DHCP . . . . . . . . . . . : 212.76.34.9
Identyfikator IAID DHCPv6 . . . . : 218108932
Identyfikator DUID klienta DHCPv6 :
00-01-00-01-0D-4D-51-55-00-01-6C-34-84-6C
Serwery DNS . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::54ae:3d3e:f57c:6aa5%9
212.76.39.205
212.76.33.106
212.76.33.108
NetBIOS przez Tcpip . . . . . . . : Wģđczony
Karta
Ethernet Poģđczenie lokalne:
Sufiks DNS konkretnego poģđczenia :
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family PCI
Gigabit
E
thernet
NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Adres fizyczny. . . . . . . . . . : 00-01-6C-34-84-6C
DHCP wģđczone . . . . . . . . . . : Nie
Autokonfiguracja wģđczona . . . . : Tak
Adres IPv6 poģđczenia lokalnego . : fe80::652f:364f:
1d66:68c9%8(Preferowane)
Adres IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferowane)
Maska podsieci. . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Brama domy?lna. . . . . . . . . . :
Serwery DNS . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS przez Tcpip . . . . . . . : Wģđczony
Karta
tunelowa Poģđczenie lokalne*:
Sufiks DNS konkretnego poģđczenia :
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{6C702252-8C34-4A32-9CE6-
D7CD6D3E7
046}
Adres fizyczny. . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP wģđczone . . . . . . . . . . : Nie
Autokonfiguracja wģđczona . . . . : Tak
Adres IPv6 poģđczenia lokalnego . : fe80::5efe:
192.168.0.1%13(Preferowane)
Brama domy?lna. . . . . . . . . . :
Serwery DNS . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS przez Tcpip . . . . . . . : Wyģđczony
Karta
tunelowa Poģđczenie lokalne* 6:
Sufiks DNS konkretnego poģđczenia : home.aster.pl
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.home.aster.pl
Adres fizyczny. . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP wģđczone . . . . . . . . . . : Nie
Autokonfiguracja wģđczona . . . . : Tak
Adres IPv6 poģđczenia lokalnego . : fe80::200:5efe:
82.210.143.18%12(Preferowa
ne)
Brama domy?lna. . . . . . . . . . :
Serwery DNS . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::54ae:3d3e:f57c:6aa5%9
212.76.39.205
212.76.33.106
212.76.33.108
NetBIOS przez Tcpip . . . . . . . : Wyģđczony
Karta
tunelowa Poģđczenie lokalne* 7:
Sufiks DNS konkretnego poģđczenia : home.aster.pl
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Adres fizyczny. . . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP wģđczone . . . . . . . . . . : Nie
Autokonfiguracja wģđczona . . . . : Tak
Tymczasowy adres IPv6 . . . . . . :
2002:52d2:8f12::52d2:8f12(Preferowane)
Brama domy?lna. . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
Serwery DNS . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::54ae:3d3e:f57c:6aa5%9
212.76.39.205
212.76.33.106
212.76.33.108
NetBIOS przez Tcpip . . . . . . . : Wyģđczony
Karta
tunelowa Poģđczenie lokalne* 9:
Stan no?nika . . . . . . . . . . .: No?nik odģđczony
Sufiks DNS konkretnego poģđczenia :
Opis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-
Interface
Adres fizyczny. . . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP wģđczone . . . . . . . . . . : Nie
Autokonfiguracja wģđczona . . . . : Tak
C:\Users\MishA>
Summary:
I
use two computers - desktop Vista with USB
Motorola Cable Modem, and
laptop
XP SP2 connected ad-hoc with crossover cable.
I
have two connections:
1.
Karta Ethernet Poģđczenie lokalne 2: using Motorola USB Cable Modem
and
auto settings - it connects to the internet just fine...
2.
Karta Ethernet Poģđczenie lokalne: Realtek NIC which connects to my
laptop
XP SP2.
The
thing is, that when I'm trying to enable ICS i Vista host
computer,
the system changes it's IP to static 192.168.0.1 (correct),
but
on the Cable Modem adapter, not the LAN one!!! This makes the
cable
modem disconnected from the network obviously, and the LAN
connection
not available.
One
more thing - both computers an see and work with very good, but
only
when static IP is set on both. When I set static on Vista and
dynamic
IP on XP SP2 it can't get one from DHCP on Vista...
I
tried with firewalls turned on and off on both computers. Vista host
uses
default windows firewall, laptop has Zone Alarm Pro.
Any
suggestions welcome, as exactly the same hardware configuration
worked
flawlessly with XP SP2 on both computers,
I
suppose the IPv6 can have something to do here, but I know nothing
about
it...
thanks
in advance
MichalW
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From: Richard G. Harper
<rgharper@email.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: join domain problems
Date:
02/02/2007 06:00:28
Create
a shortcut to the command prompt on the desktop, then right-click
that
shortcut and select "Run as Administrator", then attempt your
command
again.
That should get you moving again.
--
Richard
G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
*
NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
*
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*
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*
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"Roberto"
<whoisit@no.spam.net> wrote in message
news:eTZ4plqRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
We have a small domain with a fully patched SBS2003, used
to be we
>
could join a new XP machine to the Domain with
>
http://[servername] connectcomputer, but after setting up
Vista
>
Business on a Notebook and running this command we
get the following
>
error
>
" you need to be a local domain admin to
do this" [ may not be the
>
exact msg]
>
But the account attempting this has admin
privileges, I tried
>
starting in safe mode thinking
>
I could do this using the default admin account
but it wasn't an
>
option on the welcome screen.
>
How do we achieve this ?
>
>
rgds
>
Roberto
>
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From: Roberto <whoisit@nospam.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: join domain problems
Date:
02/02/2007 07:36:04
"Richard
G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:ufZ9alrRHHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
Create a shortcut to the command prompt on the desktop, then right-click
>
that shortcut and select "Run as Administrator", then attempt
your command
>
again. That should get you moving again.
>
>
--
>
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
Thanks
Richard
got
on the domain by R/Clicking Internet Explorer
and using runas
rgds
Roberto
>
>
>
"Roberto" <whoisit@no.spam.net> wrote in message
>
news:eTZ4plqRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
We have a small domain with a fully patched SBS2003, used
to be we
>>
could join a new XP machine to the Domain with
>>
http://[servername] connectcomputer, but after setting up
Vista
>>
Business on a Notebook and running this command we
get the following
>>
error
>>
" you need to be a local domain admin to
do this" [ may not be the
>>
exact msg]
>>
But the account attempting this has admin privileges,
I tried
>>
starting in safe mode thinking
>>
I could do this using the default admin account
but it wasn't an
>>
option on the welcome screen.
>>
How do we achieve this ?
>>
>>
rgds
>>
Roberto
>>
>
>
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From: Richard G. Harper
<rgharper@email.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: join domain problems
Date:
02/02/2007 17:00:39
That
works too. :-)
--
Richard
G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* NEW!
Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
*
PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
*
The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
*
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"Roberto"
<whoisit@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ONBs3asRHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
>
news:ufZ9alrRHHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
Create a shortcut to the command prompt on the desktop, then right-click
>>
that shortcut and select "Run as Administrator", then attempt
your
>>
command again. That should get you moving again.
>>
>>
--
>>
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>>
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>>
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>>
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>>
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
Thanks Richard
>
got on the domain by R/Clicking Internet
Explorer and using runas
>
>
rgds
>
Roberto
>
>>
>>
>>
"Roberto" <whoisit@no.spam.net> wrote in message
>>
news:eTZ4plqRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
We have a small domain with a fully patched SBS2003, used
to be we
>>>
could join a new XP machine to the Domain with
>>>
http://[servername] connectcomputer, but after setting up
Vista
>>>
Business on a Notebook and running this command we
get the
>>>
following error
>>>
" you need to be a local domain admin to
do this" [ may not be
>>>
the exact msg]
>>>
But the account attempting this has admin
privileges, I tried
>>>
starting in safe mode thinking
>>>
I could do this using the default admin account
but it wasn't an
>>>
option on the welcome screen.
>>>
How do we achieve this ?
>>>
>>>
rgds
>>>
Roberto
>>>
>>
>>
>
Top
From: Roberto <whoisit@nospam.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: join domain problems
Date:
02/02/2007 17:15:02
"Richard
G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:OqBKVWxRHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
That works too. :-)
So
looks like MS have tightened up on what basic admin
accounts can do
in Vista [shades of
root in Linux]
rgds
Roberto
>
--
>
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
>
"Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote in message
>
news:ONBs3asRHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
>>
news:ufZ9alrRHHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
Create a shortcut to the command prompt on the desktop, then right-click
>>>
that shortcut and select "Run as Administrator", then attempt
your
>>>
command again. That should get you moving again.
>>>
>>>
--
>>>
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>>>
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>>>
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>>>
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>>>
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
Thanks Richard
>>
got on the domain by R/Clicking Internet
Explorer and using runas
>>
>>
rgds
>>
Roberto
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
"Roberto" <whoisit@no.spam.net> wrote in message
>>>
news:eTZ4plqRHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
We have a small domain with a fully patched SBS2003, used
to be we
>>>>
could join a new XP machine to the Domain with
>>>>
http://[servername] connectcomputer, but after setting up
Vista
>>>>
Business on a Notebook and running this command we
get the
>>>>
following error
>>>>
" you need to be a local domain admin to
do this" [ may not be
>>>>
the exact msg]
>>>>
But the account attempting this has admin
privileges, I tried
>>>>
starting in safe mode thinking
>>>>
I could do this using the default admin account
but it wasn't an
>>>>
option on the welcome screen.
>>>>
How do we achieve this ?
>>>>
>>>>
rgds
>>>>
Roberto
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Top
From: Eric Cross [MVP]
<ecross4@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Linksys Wireless G PCI Card Help!!
Date:
02/04/2007 08:44:55
Have
you looked for an updated driver for the adapter from Linksys?
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Promotion_C2?
--
Eric
Cross
Microsoft
MVP (Windows Networking)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
"vista"
<vista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:72952130-E129-4FAE-934E-BBC2D9439888@microsoft.com...
>I
just got vista home basic and installed it form vista rc1.
>
on rc1 my wireless network adapter worked fine, but on the vista home
>
basic
>
version i bought it does not work?
Top
From: Kamal Mitwasi
<KamalMitwasi@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Log on to Windows Vista Enterprize edition as a
Network user
Date:
02/05/2007 09:15:01
correction.
it is only my profile that is having this problem.
can
any body help?
"Kamal
Mitwasi" wrote:
>
I just installed a fresh copy of windows Vista enterprise
edition, and
>
everything looks great except when I logon into vista as a network user or
>
domain admin, vista creates a temporary profile for me, so when I log off
and
>
log back on I lose my profile with all my configuration. Note that when i
>
logon localy it works fine.
>
it is very frustrating, can anybody help
>
thanks
>
Kamal
>
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From: Kamal Mitwasi
<KamalMitwasi@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Log on to Windows Vista Enterprize edition as a
Network user
Date:
02/06/2007 11:19:01
I
found these error messages in the event veiwer:
Log
Name: Application
Source:
Microsoft-Windows-User Profiles Service
Date:
2/6/2007 10:54:31 AM
Event
ID: 1530
Task
Category: None
Level:
Warning
Keywords:
Classic
User:
SYSTEM
Computer:
NYC-KGM-VISTA.int.tog
Description:
Windows
detected your registry file is still in use by other applications or
services.
The file will be unloaded now. The applications or services that
hold
your registry file may not function properly afterwards.
and
DETAIL
-
1
user registry handles leaked from
\Registry\User\S-1-5-21-2102288857-856563927-6498272-11271:
Process
680 (\Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\winlogon.exe) has
opened
key \REGISTRY\USER\S-1-5-21-2102288857-856563927-6498272-11271
"Kamal
Mitwasi" wrote:
>
correction. it is only my profile that is having this problem.
>
can any body help?
>
>
"Kamal Mitwasi" wrote:
>
>
> I just installed a fresh copy of windows Vista enterprise
edition, and
>
> everything looks great except when I logon into vista as a network
user or
>
> domain admin, vista creates a temporary profile for me, so when I log
off and
>
> log back on I lose my profile with all my configuration. Note that
when i
>
> logon localy it works fine.
>
> it is very frustrating, can anybody help
>
> thanks
>
> Kamal
>
>
Top
From: RJ
<RJ@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: malfunctioning previous programs
Date:
02/04/2007 10:41:00
I
was having problems with Limewire at first, but as soon as I downloaded the
latest
version (4.12.11), it installed fine and it had absolutely no
problems.
Hope this helps.
--
Cajun
Gadget Boy
"thinkingboutu"
wrote:
>
Is anyone having trouble getting programs like limewire to work in vista
with
>
all the firewall protection and spyware programs?
Top
From: thinkingboutu
<thinkingboutu@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: malfunctioning previous programs
Date:
02/04/2007 15:15:01
thanks
Rj will try it again, but i tried that download among many others too
"RJ"
wrote:
>
I was having problems with Limewire at first, but as soon as I downloaded
the
>
latest version (4.12.11), it installed fine and it had absolutely no
>
problems. Hope this helps.
>
--
>
Cajun Gadget Boy
>
>
>
"thinkingboutu" wrote:
>
>
> Is anyone having trouble getting programs like limewire to work in
vista with
>
> all the firewall protection and spyware programs?
Top
From: Ricardo Costa <Ricardo
Costa@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Map drives across VPN fails
Date:
02/02/2007 19:58:19
I
have the same problem here. When I try to access shares on my Win2003
server
from Vista Ultimate, it timeouts and says that the network path could
not
be found (0x80070035). According to netstat it's waiting a SYN reply
from
the netbios-ssn service on the server.
I've
tried disabling WebClient as you said, and now the error changed to
0x800704b3
(The network path was either typed incorrectly, does not exist,
or
the network provider is not currently available).
Ricardo
Costa
"fred"
<jacma70@123.com> wrote in message
news:B6DB3BA2-A16A-404B-9FC7-1BCF21B1595C@microsoft.com...
>
Creating a VPN connection from my Vista Ultimate RTM PC to any of my 10
>
different destination networks works fine.
>
>
Once connected, I can ping, RDP etc to remote servers across the pptp
>
tunnel
>
fine.
>
>
However, I cannot map drives. I can with exactly the same
configuration
>
from an XP SP2 PC, so there are no "network" issues involved here
- it
>
must
>
be purely related to changes in Vista.
>
>
I have tried all the usual suspect like disabling the firewall, disabling
>
autotuning etc, but with no success. I have tried mapping to IP
address
>
rather than netbios name, providing credentials using the net use
>
command -
>
but everything is met with system error 53. I can't find any local
policy
>
settings that may be causing the problem either.
>
>
I ran some network traces while attempting to map drives, and noticed that
>
Vista was actually, bizzarely, attempting
an http connection! Stopping
>
the
>
Vista Web Client service seems to resolve this somewhat, and now I get
>
system
>
error 67.
>
>
Network traces now show a TCP checksum error in response to netbios-ssn
>
traffic.
>
>
There must be some change in the Vista TCP stack that is causing this, but
>
I
>
can't figure out what - In fact I am convinced it is a bug.
>
>
I see there are other posts on this exact subject, but am hoping from an
>
MS
>
response as a Technet Plus subscriber..
>
Top
From: fred <jacma70@123.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Map drives across VPN fails
Date:
02/06/2007 06:46:00
May
have a solution for this..
I
logged it with our MS TSC, and he came up with this new kb article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=929853
I found
I had to disable IPv6 for the vpn, add the destinations dns suffix
as
detailed in the kb article to the dns advanced tab of the vpn connection.
Then
I could map a drive to \\machine.doman.local\c$ (for example). It
only
seems
to work using the FQDN. I have only tried this on a VPN back to the
office
(a domain my pc is a member of).
I
will test against "foregin" VPN destinations later..
Good
luck!
Top
From: Kerry Brown <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mapped drives have Red X?
Date:
01/13/2007 10:29:23
"Michael
Cecil" <macecil@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3M-dnZ4BAs7QSjXYnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d@comcast.com...
>I
had no problems with networking and sharing files, etc. Even this is
>
really a cosmetic annoyance. I've mapped a shared folder on my server
>
onto my Vista workstation using Windows Explorer.
>
>
When I rename it from "Shared (\\SERVER)" to just
"SERVER" it displays a
>
red X on the little networked drive icon in explorer. It still works
fine
>
however. I was just wondering if there was a way to rename it without
>
getting the incorrect red X.
Are
you on a wireless connection? Does the red X go away after you access
the
mapped drive? On my notebook mapped drives have the red X. If I do
something
that accesses the drive then the next time I look in Explorer the
red
X has gone away. After a while it comes back. As it doesn't affect the
way
things work I've always just ignored it. In my case I've always assumed
it
has something to do with the wireless connection. My notebook goes
through
two wireless connections to get to my server, one to the router,
then
a wireless bridge to the server. On a workstation on the same switch as
the
server I don't see this behavior. It would be interesting to find out
what
is really going on.
--
Kerry
Brown
Microsoft
MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca
Top
From: Michael Cecil
<macecil@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mapped drives have Red X?
Date:
01/13/2007 10:44:13
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:29:23 -0800, "Kerry Brown"
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>
wrote:
>"Michael
Cecil" <macecil@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3M-dnZ4BAs7QSjXYnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I
had no problems with networking and sharing files, etc. Even this is
>>
really a cosmetic annoyance. I've mapped a shared folder on my server
>>
onto my Vista workstation using Windows Explorer.
>>
>>
When I rename it from "Shared (\\SERVER)" to just
"SERVER" it displays a
>>
red X on the little networked drive icon in explorer. It still works
fine
>>
however. I was just wondering if there was a way to rename it without
>>
getting the incorrect red X.
>
>
>Are
you on a wireless connection? Does the red X go away after you access
>the
mapped drive? On my notebook mapped drives have the red X. If I do
>something
that accesses the drive then the next time I look in Explorer the
>red
X has gone away. After a while it comes back. As it doesn't affect the
>way
things work I've always just ignored it. In my case I've always assumed
>it
has something to do with the wireless connection. My notebook goes
>through
two wireless connections to get to my server, one to the router,
>then
a wireless bridge to the server. On a workstation on the same switch as
>the
server I don't see this behavior. It would be interesting to find out
>what
is really going on.
No,
this machine wasn't using a wireless connection. I did notice that if
I
add the // back to the drive name that it makes the X go away. Pretty
odd,
eh?
Top
From: Ricardo Costa <Ricardo
Costa@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mapping network shares over ssh tunnel using loopback
device fails
Date:
02/02/2007 20:04:16
I
have the same problem and error message, but I'm actually trying to map
network
shares over VPN.
Ricardo
Costa
"jojo-bs"
<jojo-bs.2l8sbf@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:jojo-bs.2l8sbf@DoNotSpam.com...
>
>
Hello vista or networks experts,
>
>
I use the Vista Business retail Version on my home PC and a Thinkpad
>
laptop using XP Pro SP2. Both are connceted to a local network using
>
192.168.100.X ip adresses which is also connected to a DSL router
>
acting as a gateway to the internet.
>
>
Since I need to map different network shares on different servers in my
>
office network (which has no VPN access, just a SSH server) to my
home
>
PC I use a workaround on my XP machine.
>
>
I installed a virtual network adapter (microsoft loopback device) and
>
only switched on the TCP/IP4 protocol (I did uncheck but not uninstall
>
the rest).
>
I set the IP adresses of this virtual network device manually to
>
10.10.10.6 and deactivated NetBIOS over TCP/IP.
>
>
Then I connected via ssh to our ssh-server and set up a ssh tunnel via
>
port forwarding between server X.X.X.X:139 and my listen interface
>
10.10.10.6:139.
>
(x.x.x.x is one of the office servers which offers the network
>
shares.)
>
>
After that it was possible to map my network shares which were actually
>
on x.x.x.x now to \\10.10.10.6\$share No big thing, I thought.
>
>
BTW: I'm using bitvise tunnelier for this port forwarding issue.
>
>
That always worked perfect on my XP machine and still does on my
>
laptop.
>
>
If I do exactly the same thing on my Vista machine I
can't get
>
connected.
>
>
THE ERROR MESSAGE IS: ERROR CODE: 0X80070035. THE NETWORK PATH WAS NOT
>
FOUND.
>
>
Has anyone any ideas why that happens. I know I should be using VPN but
>
they won't offer a VPN access in the office.
>
>
Please, help me. I really need these shares. And I don't want to switch
>
back to XP already. Thank you very much.
>
>
Best regards,
>
Joern
>
>
>
--
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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From: Eric Cross [MVP]
<ecross4@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 09:45:50
Hello
Frank,
Do
you have a firewall either Windows Firewall or a third party installed?
If
so, make sure it is properly configured for the local area network. An
improperly
configured firewall can block file and printer sharing.
Try
connecting the Vista machine this way. On the
other machine, try one of
the
following commands as shown below:
Click
Start -> Run -> and type \\Vista
Click
Start -> Run -> and type \\192.168.x.x (the ip address of the Vista
computer)
--
Eric
Cross
Microsoft
MVP (Windows Networking)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
"Frank
Henkel" <Frank Henkel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:F7C76AA6-CF00-4E3B-A429-A1D2623A2393@microsoft.com...
>
Hello,
>
>
I'm running a desktop with XP home wired to a Linksys WRT54G
>
wireless/4port
>
router. I also have another desktop with XP Home (wired) hooked to
the
>
same
>
router, and they're in a windows workgroup called "Mshome"
(creatively
>
enough!). I can share files just fine between the two.
>
>
I'm also now running a notebook with Vista Home Premium via wireless (same
>
router).
>
>
I can't for the life of me figure out how to file share between the the
>
notebook and either desktop. . In my Network and Sharing
Center, Network
>
discovery, File sharing, Public Folder sharing, printer sharing, and media
>
sharing are all on. Password protected sharing is off.
>
>
Problem is that I can't see any of the other machines (XP) on the network.
>
From the XP machines, I can't see the vista notebook. I've tried
>
restarting,
>
refreshing, and all sorts of stuff, but no dice.
>
>
Can anyone possibly help me? Thanks in advance.
>
>
Frank
Top
From: mircea dan <bamswe@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 13:50:12
i
had the same problem (almoast)
it
can be solved but u got tp be more carefull at details
good
luck
"Frank
Henkel" <Frank Henkel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:F7C76AA6-CF00-4E3B-A429-A1D2623A2393@microsoft.com...
>
Hello,
>
>
I'm running a desktop with XP home wired to a Linksys WRT54G
>
wireless/4port
>
router. I also have another desktop with XP Home (wired) hooked to
the
>
same
>
router, and they're in a windows workgroup called "Mshome"
(creatively
>
enough!). I can share files just fine between the two.
>
>
I'm also now running a notebook with Vista Home Premium via wireless (same
>
router).
>
>
I can't for the life of me figure out how to file share between the the
>
notebook and either desktop. . In my Network and Sharing
Center, Network
>
discovery, File sharing, Public Folder sharing, printer sharing, and media
>
sharing are all on. Password protected sharing is off.
>
>
Problem is that I can't see any of the other machines (XP) on the network.
>
From the XP machines, I can't see the vista notebook. I've tried
>
restarting,
>
refreshing, and all sorts of stuff, but no dice.
>
>
Can anyone possibly help me? Thanks in advance.
>
>
Frank
Top
From: Tom John
<redfrog.com@googlemail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 14:56:40
On
2 Feb, 18:50,
"mircea dan" <bam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
i had the same problem (almoast)
>
>
it can be solved but u got tp be more carefull at details
>
good luck
How
about supplying some of the details on how you solved it?
Cheers
Tom
Top
From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 15:31:00
Tom,
This
Technet article might help. Work through the steps:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Please
let us know if it doesn't help.
Thanks!
"Tom
John" wrote:
>
On 2 Feb, 18:50,
"mircea dan" <bam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i had the same problem (almoast)
>
>
>
> it can be solved but u got tp be more carefull at details
>
> good luck
>
>
How about supplying some of the details on how you solved it?
>
>
Cheers
>
>
Tom
>
>
Top
From: Tom John
<redfrog.com@googlemail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 15:57:15
On
Feb 2, 8:31 pm, Kim [MS]
<K...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
This Technet article might help. Work through the steps:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
Hey
Kim
Thanks
for this, I've actually found it before, everything's set up
fine
on the two Vista computers... both are
connected to the router
(one
wired and the other wireless) but can't see each other. I've
turned
off the firewall on both computer and all the Sharing and
Discovery
is enabled with minimul permissions in the Network and
Sharing
Center. I installed OneCare on both boxes, so i think i'm
going
to uninstall it and see if that's causing the problem. I'll post
back
the results.
Cheers
Tom
Top
From: Tom John <redfrog.com@googlemail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 16:52:52
My
Solution:
Turned
out it was OneCare. There are some options hidden away that
needed
to be enabled:
Windows
Live OneCare ->
Change
OneCare Settinge ->
Firewall
connection tool ->
Tick
relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
etc)
->
OK
->
Advanced
Settings ->
Change
file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
OK
->
OK
Done.
This
fixed it all up for me and also allowed the XP box to see the
Vista boxes ok.
Hope
this helps someone else.
Cheers
Tom
Top
From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 19:20:01
Tom,
That's
really good news! Thanks for working this through. I will post
your
results
(OneCare firewall settings) to a few other posts in this NG for folks
who
are having similar problems.
Thanks
again!
"Tom
John" wrote:
>
My Solution:
>
>
Turned out it was OneCare. There are some options hidden away that
>
needed to be enabled:
>
>
Windows Live OneCare ->
>
Change OneCare Settinge ->
>
Firewall connection tool ->
>
Tick relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
>
etc) ->
>
OK ->
>
Advanced Settings ->
>
Change file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
>
OK ->
>
OK
>
>
Done.
>
>
This fixed it all up for me and also allowed the XP box to see the
>
Vista boxes ok.
>
>
Hope this helps someone else.
>
>
Cheers
>
>
Tom
>
>
Top
From: Frank Henkel
<FrankHenkel@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/02/2007 20:52:00
An
update to my orignial problem:
I
do not have OneCare loaded on my machine (that I can determine). My
notebook
came w/ vista Home Premium preinstalled.
I changed
my network type to "Private" per Kim's link, and renamed the
workgroup
"MSHOME". Via my HP FAQ's, I also found a download for a
Link
Layer
Topology Discovery download for the XP machine.
Now,
I can see the Vista Notebook in my "Mshome" workgroup on the XP
machines,
but when I click on it, I get a denial of permissions message.
I
can't see either XP machine from my vista machine, except in the "full
map"
section of the "Network and Sharing Center".
However, even though I can
see
the XP machines, I cannot click on them in there. All I can see is
their
names
and MAC addresses.
Is
there anything else I can try?
"Kim
[MS]" wrote:
>
Tom,
>
>
That's really good news! Thanks for working this through. I
will post your
>
results (OneCare firewall settings) to a few other posts in this NG for
folks
>
who are having similar problems.
>
>
Thanks again!
>
>
>
"Tom John" wrote:
>
>
> My Solution:
>
>
>
> Turned out it was OneCare. There are some options hidden away that
>
> needed to be enabled:
>
>
>
> Windows Live OneCare ->
>
> Change OneCare Settinge ->
>
> Firewall connection tool ->
>
> Tick relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
>
> etc) ->
>
> OK ->
>
> Advanced Settings ->
>
> Change file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
>
> OK ->
>
> OK
>
>
>
> Done.
>
>
>
> This fixed it all up for me and also allowed the XP box to see the
>
> Vista boxes ok.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
Top
From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/03/2007 03:18:00
Frank,
I
suspect you already know this, but I just want to eliminate this as a
possible
issue. You cannot file share through the Network Map, even though
you
installed LLTD to 'light-up' the XP machines in your map. To get to
the
available
shares, right click on the network icon in the task tray, choose
Network
and Sharing Center, then
choose (in the blue left navigation pane)
the
link which says, "View computers and devices."
From
there you should be able to see the available XP shares from your Vista
machine.
Do you get the permissions error when you take that route?
Thx
"Frank
Henkel" wrote:
>
An update to my orignial problem:
>
>
I do not have OneCare loaded on my machine (that I can determine). My
>
notebook came w/ vista Home Premium preinstalled.
>
>
I changed my network type to "Private" per Kim's link, and
renamed the
>
workgroup "MSHOME". Via my HP FAQ's, I also found a
download for a Link
>
Layer Topology Discovery download for the XP machine.
>
>
Now, I can see the Vista Notebook in my "Mshome" workgroup on the
XP
>
machines, but when I click on it, I get a denial of permissions message.
>
>
I can't see either XP machine from my vista machine, except in the
"full
>
map" section of the "Network and Sharing Center".
However, even though I can
>
see the XP machines, I cannot click on them in there. All I can see
is their
>
names and MAC addresses.
>
>
Is there anything else I can try?
>
>
"Kim [MS]" wrote:
>
>
> Tom,
>
>
>
> That's really good news! Thanks for working this through.
I will post your
>
> results (OneCare firewall settings) to a few other posts in this NG
for folks
>
> who are having similar problems.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom John" wrote:
>
>
>
> > My Solution:
>
> >
>
> > Turned out it was OneCare. There are some options hidden away
that
>
> > needed to be enabled:
>
> >
>
> > Windows Live OneCare ->
>
> > Change OneCare Settinge ->
>
> > Firewall connection tool ->
>
> > Tick relevant options (Network discovery, file and print
settings,
>
> > etc) ->
>
> > OK ->
>
> > Advanced Settings ->
>
> > Change file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers"
->
>
> > OK ->
>
> > OK
>
> >
>
> > Done.
>
> >
>
> > This fixed it all up for me and also allowed the XP box to see
the
>
> > Vista boxes ok.
>
> >
>
> > Hope this helps someone else.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers
>
> >
>
> > Tom
>
> >
>
> >
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From: hydro1956
<hydro1956@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Mixed Vista/XP with wired/wireless Network Trouble
Date:
02/03/2007 17:21:21
Having
sharing allowed and all the other required share/network settings
correct
in Vista and XP machines I could not access Vista shared
foldews/printers
from XP machines, however vice-versa I could. Now, after
three
days I found the solution:
My
Visata machine came with McAfee antivirus preloaded. Both the Windows and
McAfee
firewalls were on. As soon as I disabled the McAfee firewall the
network
sharing worked as intended!
Doing
a little follow-up research, I then turned off Windows firewall and
re-enabled
the McAfee firewall, as well as changed the security level setting
in
McAfee. At this point I was back to the "no-access" problem so I
disabled
McAfee
firewall and re-enabled Windows firewall. The network worked like a
carm
once again. Now I assume there is an exception check box like "Allow
network
folder/pinter sharing" in McAfee's firewall like there is in windows
firewall
if you are wanting to use McAfee's firewall instead. Also, this may
be
the same issue if you have some other another firewall enabled.
"Frank
Henkel" wrote:
>
Hello,
>
>
I'm running a desktop with XP home wired to a Linksys WRT54G wireless/4port
>
router. I also have another desktop with XP Home (wired) hooked to
the same
>
router, and they're in a windows workgroup called "Mshome"
(creatively
>
enough!). I can share files just fine between the two.
>
>
I'm also now running a notebook with Vista Home Premium via wireless (same
>
router).
>
>
I can't for the life of me figure out how to file share between the the
>
notebook and either desktop. . In my Network and Sharing
Center, Network
>
discovery, File sharing, Public Folder sharing, printer sharing, and media
>
sharing are all on. Password protected sharing is off.
>
>
Problem is that I can't see any of the other machines (XP) on the network.
>
From the XP machines, I can't see the vista notebook. I've tried
restarting,
>
refreshing, and all sorts of stuff, but no dice.
>
>
Can anyone possibly help me? Thanks in advance.
>
>
Frank
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From: SeanV
<SeanV@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Modem speed is half
Date:
02/02/2007 14:31:01
It
is already at 115200 bps :( Any other thoughs on what it could
be?This
is
soo horrible..
"Dustin
Harper" wrote:
>
You can try, but since it worked in Windows XP I don't think that it
>
would make much of a difference. You can try changing the port setting
>
to 115,200 in the modem properties.
>
>
Dustin Harper
>
dharper@vistarip.com
>
http://www.vistarip.com
>
>
>
>
SeanV wrote:
>
> Im at work, So I cant test it right now, But I'm pretty sure its not normal,
>
> its always at 45,000 (shows it) and now its always 28,000...
>
>
>
> And while playing Online games like world of warcraft, i can
DEFINITELY see
>
> a HUGE difference. websites open slower too. Should I try replacing
the phone
>
> line I use from my computer to the phone jack?
>
>
>
>
>
> "Dustin Harper" wrote:
>
>
>
>> Have you done an online speed test. That speed is just what the
modem
>
>> connects at. It can fluctuate quite a bit once it is connected.
Most
>
>> common cause it the phone lines.
>
>>
>
>> Go to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest and test your speeds. They may
be just
>
>> fine, just reported to the OS as slower when connecting.
>
>>
>
>> Dustin Harper
>
>> dharper@vistarip.com
>
>> http://www.vistarip.com
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> SeanV wrote:
>
>>> Hello, I am currently on dial up.. and every bit counts. I
normally connect
>
>>> at 45,000 BPS, and now its 28.8 BPS.
>
>>>
>
>>> It just suddenly changed.. (it did this before vista too)
>
>>>
>
>>> Heres the options I tested:
>
>>>
>
>>> a.) The phone line. phone company ran diagnostics and it ran
fine.
>
>>> b.) A different phone line. Same thing happened. half
speed.
>
>>> c.) different cord to connect. Same thing happened.
>
>>> d.) New modem of the same brand. Same thing
>
>>> e.) New modem of a diff. brand. Same thing
>
>>> f.) New Drivers? there from 2003, But they work with vista,
and the most up
>
>>> to date ones are 2003.. If anyone could look into this.. my
modem is a V.92
>
>>> PCI.
>
>>> g.)Different computer- I tried using a different computer, and
guess what?
>
>>> It ran at full speed...
>
>>> h.) Reformat. I reformatted my entire computer incase of
viruses. I tried on
>
>>> XP, and then Vista.. still
half speed. Back with xp it said something was
>
>>> blocking my connection... But I never figured it out.
and as I said, Vista
>
>>> says theres no problems
>
>>> I.) ISP- the other computer has the same ISP :(
>
>>> J.) The number I dial into is the same on both computers, yet
mine runs at
>
>>> half speed.
>
>>> K.) Diff. Ports- I plugged the modem into every single PCI
port.. same outcome
>
>>>
>
>>> These are some things I think it could be.. Motherboard
glitch? Power
>
>>> supply? Any ideas? sorry about all the reading :(
>
>>> Something wrong with my motherboard?
>
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From: Steve Winograd [MVP]
<bcmaven@mvps.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: multiple NICs; automatic metrics
Date:
02/04/2007 00:07:15
In
article <OAPrXbASHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Jim Millard
<millardjk@gmail.com>
wrote:
>With
versions prior to vista, it was possible to set a hierarchy or
>order
to multiple physical NICs; the net result was that if two or more
>NICs
were attached to the same network, one could be sure that the
>higher
priority NIC would end up with a lower metric for routing
>purposes.
This comes in especially handy when you have a laptop with
>both
a wired & wireless connection to the same LAN: The default for XP
>(for
some retarded reason) was to use the wireless before the wired, and
>I'd
always have to go into the advanced network settings and fix the
>preference
order, as the wired connection was always faster and more
>reliable
than the wireless.
>
>I
can't find anything in the Vista network
setup to let me manage this,
>but
it also may be irrelevant: the result of "route print" shows that
my
>wireless
adapter has a higher metric, giving priority to my wired
>connection.
Just the same, I'd like to be able to force it if it ever
>reverts
to the other way...
Go
to Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Manage Network
Connections,
which is the same as the Network Connections folder in
XP.
You can open a connection's TCP/IPv4 properties and set a metric
just
like in XP.
--
Best
Wishes,
Steve
Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
Please
post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for
everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed
directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
Microsoft
Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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From: Kerry Brown
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Need help with Remote Desktop / Vista...
Date:
02/05/2007 21:56:10
It
sounds like your router is blocking rdp. This is normal. You have to
forward
port 3389 from your router to the office computer. Here's some
links.
They are about XP but the setup is very close with Vista. The
principles
are the same.
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/RemoteDesktopSetupandTroubleshooting.html
http://ask-leo.com/how_can_i_connect_to_my_home_computer_from_work.html
--
Kerry
Brown
Microsoft
MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca
"frankmcma"
<frank@fmstudio.com> wrote in message
news:eZdxVhYSHHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
On my office machine I have Windows Vista Ultimate, on my laptop I have
>
Windows XP Home (on the laptop I have downloaded the most recent Desktop
>
Connection Program)
>
>
If I am within my wireless network, i can input my computer and password
>
into my laptop and remote desktop works great on my laptop, Vista screen
>
pops right up on my laptop. However when I am at a coffee shop and try to
>
dial in to my office computer, it does not work. I tried computer name, my
>
computers IP address, etc...nothing worked.
>
>
Any ideas? I want to log in remotely to vista at my office from my XP
>
laptop. Any settings I am missing?
>
>
Thanks!
>
>
Frank
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From: frankmcma <frank@fmstudio.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Need help with Remote Desktop / Vista...
Date:
02/06/2007 10:01:43
Lots
of good info and I found a site on there:
http://www.portforward.com/default.htm
Which has one solution which involves
about
25 steps and creating a static IP and etc..etc...
I
have to say..if I am a business user who just purchased Windows Vista and
wants
to use Remote Desktop..should I need to be an IT guy and spend time
researching
info on this and reprogramming my system(s) for a half hour?
Honestly...I
thought it would be a bit easier than this. It worked fine with
XP
Pro
Any
other solutions out there?
Frank
"Kerry
Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:emrjcpZSHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
It sounds like your router is blocking rdp. This is normal. You have to
>
forward port 3389 from your router to the office computer. Here's some
>
links. They are about XP but the setup is very close with Vista. The
>
principles are the same.
>
>
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/RemoteDesktopSetupandTroubleshooting.html
>
>
http://ask-leo.com/how_can_i_connect_to_my_home_computer_from_work.html
>
>
--
>
Kerry Brown
>
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>
http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
>
"frankmcma" <frank@fmstudio.com> wrote in message
>
news:eZdxVhYSHHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
On my office machine I have Windows Vista Ultimate, on my laptop I have
>>
Windows XP Home (on the laptop I have downloaded the most recent Desktop
>>
Connection Program)
>>
>>
If I am within my wireless network, i can input my computer and password
>>
into my laptop and remote desktop works great on my laptop, Vista screen
>>
pops right up on my laptop. However when I am at a coffee shop and try to
>>
dial in to my office computer, it does not work. I tried computer name,
>>
my computers IP address, etc...nothing worked.
>>
>>
Any ideas? I want to log in remotely to vista at my office from my XP
>>
laptop. Any settings I am missing?
>>
>>
Thanks!
>>
>>
Frank
>
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From: Eric Cross [MVP] <ecross4@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/05/2007 09:21:55
Hello
Dan,
NetBEUI
has mostly been replaced by TCP/IP. Support for NetBEUI was
discontinued
in Windows XP. You can use TCP/IP of which are installed by
default
in Windows XP and Windows Vista.
--
Eric
Cross
Microsoft
MVP (Windows Networking)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
"Dan
S" <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I
have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>There
is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>parallel
printer attached to it.
>
>
These systems use Netbeui to connect.
>
>
Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>
>
There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?
>
>
Dan
>
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From: Al Dykes <adykes@panix.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/05/2007 09:38:01
In
article <uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Dan
S <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I
have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>There
is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>parallel
printer attached to it.
>
>These
systems use Netbeui to connect.
>
>Can
I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>
>There
is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?
>
>Dan
>
Get
a modern print server gadget for as little as 50 bucks. It will
probably
pay for itself in electric bills compared to an old PC, not
to
mention the grief if/when the W98 machine dies.
--
a d
y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't
blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
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From: Dan S <djsigal@yahoo.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/05/2007 13:18:51
Thanks
but question not answered.
Can
I install XP netbeui on a new Vista basic OS
system?
Putting
a print server on a network may not always work as one needs to have
a Vista printer
driver as well.
Dan
"Al
Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
news:eq7fg9$540$1@panix5.panix.com...
>
In article <uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>
Dan S <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I
have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>>There
is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>>parallel
printer attached to it.
>>
>>These
systems use Netbeui to connect.
>>
>>Can
I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>>
>>There
is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?
>>
>>Dan
>>
>
>
>
>
Get a modern print server gadget for as little as 50 bucks. It will
>
probably pay for itself in electric bills compared to an old PC, not
>
to mention the grief if/when the W98 machine dies.
>
>
--
>
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
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From: <thetruthhurts @homail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/06/2007 00:13:30
Yes.
The XP netbeui will install and run under VISTA. I
ran it for a
few
days and then decided it was creating too many problems with pcs
when
they started hibernating.
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:18:51 -0500, "Dan S"
<djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Thanks
but question not answered.
>
>Can
I install XP netbeui on a new Vista basic OS
system?
>
>Putting
a print server on a network may not always work as one needs to have
>a
Vista printer driver as well.
>
>Dan
>
>
>"Al
Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:eq7fg9$540$1@panix5.panix.com...
>>
In article <uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>>
Dan S <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>I
have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>>>There
is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>>>parallel
printer attached to it.
>>>
>>>These
systems use Netbeui to connect.
>>>
>>>Can
I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>>>
>>>There
is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?
>>>
>>>Dan
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Get a modern print server gadget for as little as 50 bucks. It will
>>
probably pay for itself in electric bills compared to an old PC, not
>>
to mention the grief if/when the W98 machine dies.
>>
>>
--
>>
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>>
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
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From: ken <home@now.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/06/2007 11:41:51
In
article <#EOnVIVSHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, djsigal@yahoo.com
says...
>
Thanks but question not answered.
>
>
Can I install XP netbeui on a new Vista basic OS
system?
>
>
Putting a print server on a network may not always work as one needs to
have
>
a Vista printer driver as well.
You
need a Vista print driver now. A shared
printer needs to have the
correct
driver installed on the client machine to print no matter how it
is
networked.
>
>
Dan
>
>
>
"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message
>
news:eq7fg9$540$1@panix5.panix.com...
>
> In article <uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>
> Dan S <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP
systems.
>
>>There is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a
canon
>
>>parallel printer attached to it.
>
>>
>
>>These systems use Netbeui to connect.
>
>>
>
>>Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>
>>
>
>>There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP
driver?
>
>>
>
>>Dan
>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Get a modern print server gadget for as little as 50 bucks. It will
>
> probably pay for itself in electric bills compared to an old PC, not
>
> to mention the grief if/when the W98 machine dies.
>
>
>
> --
>
> a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
>
> Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
>
>
>
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From: AJR <ajrjdr@comcast.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/05/2007 18:40:08
There
is "Netbeui" no such thing as "XP Netbeui". It
was included with XP
only
to provide backward network compatibility between XP and "older"
Windows
versions.
As
Eric stated - TCP/IP now performs the network functions - Vista does not
support
Netbeui.
"Dan
S" <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I
have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>There
is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>parallel
printer attached to it.
>
>
These systems use Netbeui to connect.
>
>
Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>
>
There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?
>
>
Dan
>
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From: Susan <Susan@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/05/2007 20:00:02
I
cannot get Vista basic to print to the
windows 98 machine that has the
Canon
printer attached to it via parallel cable.
Since
netbeui cannot be installed as a protocol in Vista, and this
is a
workgroup,
and the add printer wizard does not find or detect this printer.
Any
thoughts how to handle?
Dan
"AJR"
wrote:
>
There is "Netbeui" no such thing as "XP Netbeui".
It was included with XP
>
only to provide backward network compatibility between XP and
"older"
>
Windows versions.
>
As Eric stated - TCP/IP now performs the network functions - Vista does not
>
support Netbeui.
>
>
>
"Dan S" <djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
news:uCwHg$SSHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>I have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>
>There is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>
>parallel printer attached to it.
>
>
>
> These systems use Netbeui to connect.
>
>
>
> Can I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>
>
>
> There is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP
driver?
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
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From: JoeT <glitchworks@comcast.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/06/2007 14:15:19
"AJR"
<ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23bhn77XSHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
There is "Netbeui" no such thing as "XP Netbeui".
It was included with XP
>
only to provide backward network compatibility between XP and
"older"
>
Windows versions.
>
As Eric stated - TCP/IP now performs the network functions - Vista does
>
not support Netbeui.
True
enough in the sense that vista does not include nor officially support
the
installation and binding of Netbeui as a protocol.
Untrue
that it cannot be installed and used. Just out of curiosity I
followed
the basic instructions for installing it into XP which are
available
all over the web (But applied the instruction to Vista) and it
worked
smoothly even after un-binding TCPIP from the adapters. i.e. using
only
Netbeui. Granted there are probably issues I didn't find due to the
individual
nature of the system I tested it upon.
I
have used this method in the past as a means of keeping drive by hackers
out
of shares that used WEP based wireless routers, which everyone knows,
are
simply just too easy to crack.
So
no it isn't officially supported but yes it certainly can be used at
least
for now. :)
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From: Steve Urbach
<dragonsclaw@NOTmindspring.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Netbeui
Date:
02/05/2007 21:38:15
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:13:58 -0500, "Dan S"
<djsigal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I
have a client with a workgroup and they have many wk2 and XP systems.
>There
is a win98 machine that acts as a printer server that has a canon
>parallel
printer attached to it.
>
>These
systems use Netbeui to connect.
>
>Can
I install XP netbeui on Vista Basic?
>
>There
is no driver yet for the canon as well so can I use the XP driver?
>
>Dan
>
If
you are using a computer for shares (file or Print) it is best that
it
is the HIGHEST O/S, not the lowest.
W98se
does support TCP/IP (windows) networks (I have one running with
98se,W2k,XPpro
and Vista rc2).
Steve
U
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From: Bruce Sanderson
<bsanders@newsgroups.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network Access Denied
Date:
02/04/2007 21:49:12
1.
on Vista, the Administrator user account is
disabled by default, so you
can
use it to connect remotely or logon locally
2.
on Vista, by default, access to shares over
the network is denied for
user
accounts with blank passwords. This is also true of Windows XP
Professional,
but notXP Home.
a.
logon to the XP computer with a user account that is NOT Administrator
and
which requires a password
b.
on the Vista computer, create a user account
with the same name and
password
as you are using on the XP computer
Does
this help?
--
Bruce
Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
It
is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
"Vince"
<nonehere@newsgroupname.com> wrote in message
news:Ojy$x6KSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
Hello:
>
>
Just puchased a Vista machine I swore I would wait
a year but I got hit by
>
lightning 3 days after the Vista release and
guess what, every store in
>
town
>
only sells Vista now.
>
>
Besides having to rush though the learning curve to find my way around I
>
have unresolved issues.
>
>
I tell Vista to share my whole C:Drive. Yes the
whole thing. I have only
>
three machines in the same room and no critical data just need to have
>
full
>
access to each machine.
>
>
Vista can access XP No problem. XP gets
access denied. I have turned on
>
network discovery, file sharing, turned off password protected sharing. On
>
the c drive I clicked advanced sharing and then permissions. In
>
permissions
>
there was the everyone group. I gave the group all permissions. Still when
>
I
>
try to access it I get access denied.
>
>
Please tell me what I missed.
>
>
Thanks
>
Vince
>
>
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From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Network Access Denied
Date:
02/05/2007 15:43:02
Vince,
I'm
sorry you're experiencing problems. Bruce is right in his response.
While
you can share out the root, it's not recommended. Read through the
TechNet
article below which explains the differences in Vista file share
and
permissions.
Please let us know if, after following the steps in the article
below,
you're still experincing problems.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx
"Vince"
wrote:
>
Hello:
>
>
Just puchased a Vista machine I swore I would wait
a year but I got hit by
>
lightning 3 days after the Vista release and
guess what, every store in town
>
only sells Vista now.
>
>
Besides having to rush though the learning curve to find my way around I
>
have unresolved issues.
>
>
I tell Vista to share my whole C:Drive. Yes the whole
thing. I have only
>
three machines in the same room and no critical data just need to have full
>
access to each machine.
>
>
Vista can access XP No problem. XP gets
access denied. I have turned on
>
network discovery, file sharing, turned off password protected sharing. On
>
the c drive I clicked advanced sharing and then permissions. In permissions
>
there was the everyone group. I gave the group all permissions. Still when
I
>
try to access it I get access denied.
>
>
Please tell me what I missed.
>
>
Thanks
>
Vince
>
>
>
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From: Bruce Sanderson
<bsanders@newsgroups.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network Access Denied
Date:
02/06/2007 01:28:27
Here's
some info that might help - I hope it does not seem pedantic or
"insulting
to your intelligence"!
Different
editions of Vista (e.g. Home Basic, Business)
have slightly
different
details with respect to sharing, security etc., so if this doesn't
help,
please state which editon you have.
There
are two sets of permissions:
1.
permissions to for access remotely through a Share
2.
permissions for users to actually read or modify the content of the
folders
that are the subject (target) of the Share (sometimes referred to as
NTFS
permissions)
This
concept has been in Windows since Windows NT - it's not new with Vista.
Windows
XP has the same concepts, but, especially with XP Home, some of this
is
"simplified" so you may not be aware of it. With XP, your C
partition
might
be formatted with FAT32 - if this is the case, the concept of
permissions
on folders is missing completely.
To
successfully get access to a folder remotely, you have to have both types
of
permissions. Unlike XP, with Vista, by
default, the Everyone group does
NOT
have permissions (type 2) on the root of the C drive and I suggest you
really
don't want to grant that permission - it will create havoc with the
security
on your Vista computer
Sound
like you used "Advanced Sharing" to grant the Everyone group
permission
to access remotely through the share (type 1 above). However, if
the
user attempting to access remotely does not have permission to do
anything
on the folder that is the target of the share - the root of the c
partition
in this case, that user will get access is denied, even if
Everyone
has permission on the share.
However,
by default "bypass Travers checking" is turned on. This
means,
that
even though you don't have access to the target folder of the share, if
you
know the name of the folder inside the target folder, you can access
that
remotely.
To
try the test below, you will need to know the Computer Name of your Vista
computer
- if you don't know for sure what it is, click Start, right click
Computer,
select Properties - the Computer name is shown in the "Computer
name,
domain, and workgroup settings" section
You
didn't state what Share Name you used for the share you created on the
root
of your C drive on the Vista computer -
I've assumed you called it Call
1.
on the XP computer
2.
click Start, Run
3.
key \\VistaComputername\call\users
4.
press Enter (or click OK)
Although
the User folder should appear in Windows Explorer, you'll most
likely
get "access is denied" to all the folders inside the Users
folder.
This
is becuase the Everyone group has permission to access the Users
folder,
but not any of the child folders.
I
suggest you really don't want to do this. There is far too much
important
stuff
on the C drive that is vital for Vista to
function. You're much
better
off either using the Public folder with "Public folder sharing"
or
creating
a Share on exactly what it is you want to access remotely (for
example,
your folder under Users).
Even
better, turn on Password Protected Sharing, set a password for your
Vista user account and use that to
connect to shares on the Vista computer
remotely.
You
might want to open Help and Support, key "folder sharing" or
"file
sharing
essentials" in the Search box, press Enter. In some ways, Vista
makes
sharing easier while still being secure, but the concepts in Vista are
a
bit different from those in XP.
For
another approach that you might find useful, see the thread "Hidden
Shares?"
in this newsgroup.
--
Bruce
Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
It
is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
"Vince"
<nonehere@newsgroupname.com> wrote in message
news:Ojy$x6KSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
Hello:
>
>
Just puchased a Vista machine I swore I would wait
a year but I got hit by
>
lightning 3 days after the Vista release and
guess what, every store in
>
town
>
only sells Vista now.
>
>
Besides having to rush though the learning curve to find my way around I
>
have unresolved issues.
>
>
I tell Vista to share my whole C:Drive. Yes the
whole thing. I have only
>
three machines in the same room and no critical data just need to have
>
full
>
access to each machine.
>
>
Vista can access XP No problem. XP gets
access denied. I have turned on
>
network discovery, file sharing, turned off password protected sharing. On
>
the c drive I clicked advanced sharing and then permissions. In
>
permissions
>
there was the everyone group. I gave the group all permissions. Still when
>
I
>
try to access it I get access denied.
>
>
Please tell me what I missed.
>
>
Thanks
>
Vince
>
>
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From: Bruce Sanderson
<bsanders@newsgroups.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network Access Denied
Date:
02/06/2007 16:08:54
Unlike
Windows 95 and, to a lesser extent, Windows XP, Vista is designed
and
configured
to be "secure by default". One of the reasons that Windows
95
had
so many problems is because it has essentially no security - any
application
or user can do anything, including destroying (or replacing)
things
vital to the OS and applications.
There
are some alternatives:
1.
connect remotely using Remote Desktop Connection
2.
enable the use of the hidden Administrative shares as discussed in the
thread
"Hidden Shares?" in this news group - this provides network
access to
the
entire C partition for administrators
3.
arrange for all data that needs to be routinely backed up to be in a
"Data"
folder, rather than in various places in user profiles or application
folders
in, for example Program Files. Unfortunately, this later is subject
to
the vagaries of application designers, many of whom have chosen ignore
design
guidelines, security and data backup requirements for over a decade.
4.
understand the business requirement for backups - is it to protect data
or
to provide rapid restoration of function (e.g. if a hard drive or
computer
failure)? - use that to drive your backup strategy. If the
former
- put the data in one place (folder) and backup that folder (e.g.
using
robocopy from the Windows 2003 Resource Kit tools).
--
Bruce
Sanderson MVP
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/
It's
perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
"Bruce
Sanderson" <bsanders@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:C8AE4CDD-BCCB-4756-A871-456C50AAF852@microsoft.com...
>
Here's some info that might help - I hope it does not seem pedantic or
>
"insulting to your intelligence"!
>
>
Different editions of Vista (e.g. Home
Basic, Business) have slightly
>
different details with respect to sharing, security etc., so if this
>
doesn't help, please state which editon you have.
>
>
There are two sets of permissions:
>
1. permissions to for access remotely through a Share
>
2. permissions for users to actually read or modify the content of the
>
folders that are the subject (target) of the Share (sometimes referred to
>
as NTFS permissions)
>
>
>
This concept has been in Windows since Windows NT - it's not new with
>
Vista. Windows XP has the same concepts,
but, especially with XP Home,
>
some of this is "simplified" so you may not be aware of it.
With XP, your
>
C partition might be formatted with FAT32 - if this is the case, the
>
concept of permissions on folders is missing completely.
>
>
To successfully get access to a folder remotely, you have to have both
>
types of permissions. Unlike XP, with Vista, by
default, the Everyone
>
group does NOT have permissions (type 2) on the root of the C drive and I
>
suggest you really don't want to grant that permission - it will create
>
havoc with the security on your Vista computer
>
>
Sound like you used "Advanced Sharing" to grant the Everyone
group
>
permission to access remotely through the share (type 1 above).
However,
>
if the user attempting to access remotely does not have permission to do
>
anything on the folder that is the target of the share - the root of the c
>
partition in this case, that user will get access is denied, even if
>
Everyone has permission on the share.
>
>
However, by default "bypass Travers checking" is turned on.
This means,
>
that even though you don't have access to the target folder of the share,
>
if you know the name of the folder inside the target folder, you can
>
access that remotely.
>
>
To try the test below, you will need to know the Computer Name of your
>
Vista computer - if you don't know for
sure what it is, click Start, right
>
click Computer, select Properties - the Computer name is shown in the
>
"Computer name, domain, and workgroup settings" section
>
>
You didn't state what Share Name you used for the share you created on the
>
root of your C drive on the Vista computer -
I've assumed you called it
>
Call
>
>
1. on the XP computer
>
2. click Start, Run
>
3. key \\VistaComputername\call\users
>
4. press Enter (or click OK)
>
>
Although the User folder should appear in Windows Explorer, you'll most
>
likely get "access is denied" to all the folders inside the Users
folder.
>
This is becuase the Everyone group has permission to access the Users
>
folder, but not any of the child folders.
>
>
I suggest you really don't want to do this. There is far too much
>
important stuff on the C drive that is vital for Vista to
function.
>
You're much better off either using the Public folder with "Public
folder
>
sharing" or creating a Share on exactly what it is you want to access
>
remotely (for example, your folder under Users).
>
>
Even better, turn on Password Protected Sharing, set a password for your
>
Vista user account and use that to
connect to shares on the Vista computer
>
remotely.
>
>
You might want to open Help and Support, key "folder sharing" or
"file
>
sharing essentials" in the Search box, press Enter. In some
ways, Vista
>
makes sharing easier while still being secure, but the concepts in Vista
>
are a bit different from those in XP.
>
>
For another approach that you might find useful, see the thread
"Hidden
>
Shares?" in this newsgroup.
>
>
--
>
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
>
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
>
>
It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>
>
>
>
"Vince" <nonehere@newsgroupname.com> wrote in message
>
news:Ojy$x6KSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
Hello:
>>
>>
Just puchased a Vista machine I swore I would wait
a year but I got hit
>>
by
>>
lightning 3 days after the Vista release and
guess what, every store in
>>
town
>>
only sells Vista now.
>>
>>
Besides having to rush though the learning curve to find my way around I
>>
have unresolved issues.
>>
>>
I tell Vista to share my whole C:Drive. Yes the
whole thing. I have only
>>
three machines in the same room and no critical data just need to have
>>
full
>>
access to each machine.
>>
>>
Vista can access XP No problem. XP gets
access denied. I have turned on
>>
network discovery, file sharing, turned off password protected sharing.
>>
On
>>
the c drive I clicked advanced sharing and then permissions. In
>>
permissions
>>
there was the everyone group. I gave the group all permissions. Still
>>
when I
>>
try to access it I get access denied.
>>
>>
Please tell me what I missed.
>>
>>
Thanks
>>
Vince
>>
>>
>
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From: Vince
<nonehere@newsgroupname.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network Access Denied
Date:
02/06/2007 15:04:47
Thanks
all for the information.
I will
read the link provided by Kim and try some of the things Bruce
mentioned.
I
hate to say this but I am not really worried about security on these
machines
because there is nothing to protect and very limited users who all
need
full access. We have been running full c: share since before XP came
out
even back when we had Win 95. Looks like I may have to password protect
the
accounts or just have the issues of having to go back and forth between
machines.
I
normally sit at one machine and do backups of various locations and clean
up
of others. I guess my only work around to sharing c is to spend time to
share
many locations on the Vista Machine or change the location of the
machines
and make the Vista machine the one that I sit
at all day so I can
access
the c drives of the XP machines.
Anyway
I will play with this as I have time as this is my busy time of year
and
at least I have a working machine for now.
Will
message back when I figure out what I need to do. Probably in worse
case
I will set machines to automatically log onto the account I want if I
put
in a password.
Thanks
Vince
"Vince"
<nonehere@newsgroupname.com> wrote in message
news:Ojy$x6KSHHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
Hello:
>
>
Just puchased a Vista machine I swore I would wait
a year but I got hit by
>
lightning 3 days after the Vista release and
guess what, every store in
>
town
>
only sells Vista now.
>
>
Besides having to rush though the learning curve to find my way around I
>
have unresolved issues.
>
>
I tell Vista to share my whole C:Drive. Yes the
whole thing. I have only
>
three machines in the same room and no critical data just need to have
>
full
>
access to each machine.
>
>
Vista can access XP No problem. XP gets
access denied. I have turned on
>
network discovery, file sharing, turned off password protected sharing. On
>
the c drive I clicked advanced sharing and then permissions. In
>
permissions
>
there was the everyone group. I gave the group all permissions. Still when
>
I
>
try to access it I get access denied.
>
>
Please tell me what I missed.
>
>
Thanks
>
Vince
>
>
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From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Network Bug Question...
Date:
02/05/2007 17:45:01
Travis,
I'm
sorry you're experiencing problems. The best advice I have for you is
to
ask you to install the Release version of Vista and tell us
if you can
reproduce
any of these issues.
Thanks
"Travis
King" wrote:
>
In Vista RC1 5728 and RC2 5744, I have had network problems where if I
>
copy a music or picture file onto another computer's network folder from
>
my computer with Vista, it shows
'calculating time remaining' and
>
freezes up every time. I end up having to reset my computer to clear
it
>
up. It seems to copy word documents onto other computers' network
>
folders just fine. My computer with Vista also loses
its Internet
>
connection sometimes when I try to access my computer's network folder
>
from another computer. The only way to fix that is to restart the
>
computer. The network is all wired, not wireless and there are three
>
computers on the network through a 4-port Linksys router. My computer
>
has both XP and Vista, while the other two
computers have XP only. I do
>
not experience networking issues on my computer when I'm on XP. My
>
question here is has anybody else experienced a similar networking
>
problem and the biggest question is, has this been fixed in the RTM
>
version of Vista? My networking adapter
is an onboard NVIDIA nForce
>
Networking Controller on an Asus K8N motherboard. Besides this bug
and
>
the mfpmp in WMP11, I'm starting to like Vista as it loads
applications
>
a lot faster and is generally more responsive than XP on the same
>
computer. (I was previously pretty skeptical about it.) I did
not
>
experience this networking issue in Beta 2 (5384), Pre-RC1 (5536), or
>
RC1 (5600). I had other networking problems in Beta 2, but they were
>
resolved in 5536. So, anybody know? Thanks.
>
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From: Travis King
<Anonymous@none.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network Bug Question...
Date:
02/05/2007 18:59:20
I'm
thinking about trying a networking card as opposed to the onboard
networking
adapter and see if that will make a difference. I have a few
just
sitting around. If that doesn't work, then I guess I will just
have
to take it from there. Like I said, I did not experience these
problems
up until build 5728 and 5744. Thanks.
Kim
[MS] wrote:
>
Travis,
>
>
I'm sorry you're experiencing problems. The best advice I have for
you is
>
to ask you to install the Release version of Vista and tell us
if you can
>
reproduce any of these issues.
>
>
Thanks
>
>
"Travis King" wrote:
>
>>
In Vista RC1 5728 and RC2 5744, I have had network problems where if I
>>
copy a music or picture file onto another computer's network folder from
>>
my computer with Vista, it shows
'calculating time remaining' and
>>
freezes up every time. I end up having to reset my computer to clear
it
>>
up. It seems to copy word documents onto other computers' network
>>
folders just fine. My computer with Vista also loses
its Internet
>>
connection sometimes when I try to access my computer's network folder
>>
from another computer. The only way to fix that is to restart the
>>
computer. The network is all wired, not wireless and there are three
>>
computers on the network through a 4-port Linksys router. My computer
>>
has both XP and Vista, while the other two
computers have XP only. I do
>>
not experience networking issues on my computer when I'm on XP. My
>>
question here is has anybody else experienced a similar networking
>>
problem and the biggest question is, has this been fixed in the RTM
>>
version of Vista? My networking adapter
is an onboard NVIDIA nForce
>>
Networking Controller on an Asus K8N motherboard. Besides this bug
and
>>
the mfpmp in WMP11, I'm starting to like Vista as it loads
applications
>>
a lot faster and is generally more responsive than XP on the same
>>
computer. (I was previously pretty skeptical about it.) I did
not
>>
experience this networking issue in Beta 2 (5384), Pre-RC1 (5536), or
>>
RC1 (5600). I had other networking problems in Beta 2, but they were
>>
resolved in 5536. So, anybody know? Thanks.
>>
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From: Max <max@home.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network tray icon
Date:
02/03/2007 07:14:53
Did
you download and install this?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=83d513ea-9df9-4920-af33-3a0e2e4e7beb?
--
Maxwell
Bluemeanie
"Diamontina
Cocktail" <lrb@australia.com> wrote in message
news:%23gNG1t4RHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I
updated this machine to Vista a day ago
and all seemed OK at first
>excepting
that now I cant autosync a PDA on it. Wont recognise the Ipaq
>HX2190
damn it.
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From: Diamontina Cocktail
<lrb@australia.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network tray icon
Date:
02/04/2007 03:10:08
Yep.
Took 4 goes at installing it before it worked.
"Max"
<max@home.com> wrote in message
news:eNQNQz4RHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
Did you download and install this?
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=83d513ea-9df9-4920-af33-3a0e2e4e7beb?
>
>
--
>
Maxwell Bluemeanie
>
>
>
"Diamontina Cocktail" <lrb@australia.com> wrote in message
>
news:%23gNG1t4RHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I
updated this machine to Vista a day ago
and all seemed OK at first
>>excepting
that now I cant autosync a PDA on it. Wont recognise the Ipaq
>>HX2190
damn it.
>
Top
From: Eric Cross [MVP]
<ecross4@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network tray icon
Date:
02/03/2007 08:55:46
Hello
Diamontina,
To
make the network icon appear in the notification area, please follow
these
steps:
Right-click
in the system tray, and choose Properties.
Click
the Notification area tab.
Make
sure the Network checkbox is checked.
--
Eric
Cross
Microsoft
MVP (Windows Networking)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
"Diamontina
Cocktail" <lrb@australia.com> wrote in message
news:%23gNG1t4RHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I
updated this machine to Vista a day ago
and all seemed OK at first
>excepting
that now I cant autosync a PDA on it. Wont recognise the Ipaq
>HX2190
damn it.
>
>
Anyway, today the icon for the wireless network just drops off the tray
>
and cant get it back nor can I find the option to do so anywhere. No it
>
isnt hidden as I changed to show ALL icons. I note that about half my
>
running program icons are gone, too.
>
>
Anyone know how to get the wireless network icon back? I like to REPAIR
>
off the tray icon when needed.
>
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From: Diamontina Cocktail
<lrb@australia.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Network tray icon
Date:
02/04/2007 03:09:24
Yep,
stupid me that was it. Thanks for that.
Finally
got the PDA to sync. Only took 4 uninstall and installs of the
Windows
Mobile Device Centre to get it going. Sigh....
"Eric
Cross [MVP]" <ecross4@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%239vK2r5RHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
Hello Diamontina,
>
>
To make the network icon appear in the notification area, please follow
>
these steps:
>
>
Right-click in the system tray, and choose Properties.
>
Click the Notification area tab.
>
Make sure the Network checkbox is checked.
>
>
--
>
Eric Cross
>
Microsoft MVP (Windows Networking)
>
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
>
>
"Diamontina Cocktail" <lrb@australia.com> wrote in message
>
news:%23gNG1t4RHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I
updated this machine to Vista a day ago
and all seemed OK at first
>>excepting
that now I cant autosync a PDA on it. Wont recognise the Ipaq
>>HX2190
damn it.
>>
>>
Anyway, today the icon for the wireless network just drops off the tray
>>
and cant get it back nor can I find the option to do so anywhere. No it
>>
isnt hidden as I changed to show ALL icons. I note that about half my
>>
running program icons are gone, too.
>>
>>
Anyone know how to get the wireless network icon back? I like to REPAIR
>>
off the tray icon when needed.
>>
>
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From: SteveK
<SteveK@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: NTLM Passwords Linux NAS passwords
Date:
02/02/2007 13:14:00
Worked
a treat - thanks
BTW,
the existing value in my registry was 00000003 and not 00000000. But I
set
it to 00000001 and it works a treat.
"Jimmy
Brush" wrote:
>
This is the correct registry key and value to change.
>
>
>
--
>
- JB
>
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
Windows Vista Support Faq
>
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
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From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Office sharing
Date:
02/02/2007 19:39:01
I'm
sorry for the trouble you're experiencing. A few others have
experienced
the
same thing, but have found that adjusting firewall settings seem to solve
the
problem. If you're running OneCare specifically, Tom (in another thread)
found
the following to work:
Windows
Live OneCare ->
Change
OneCare Settinge ->
Firewall
connection tool ->
Tick
relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
etc)
->
OK
->
Advanced
Settings ->
Change
file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
OK
->
OK
Please
try modifying any firewall settings and let us know if that doesn't
work.
"Re:
Pivot Table/Query" wrote:
>
I have just added a new pc with vista. My other 2 pcs are running XP
& are
>
networked just fine. I have been unable to "see" either pc
from vista or
>
"see" vista from either pc. I have followed all
instructions and set all
>
settings to allow networking. I am so upset that I am ready to take
this pc
>
back and buy an older one with XP. Can anyone help before I make a
trip back
>
to the store.
Top
From: woody <woody@woohoo.ca>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Office sharing
Date:
02/03/2007 08:46:57
Here
are a couple of links that should solve your problem. Run kb922120 on
the
XP machines and change your Vista machine's
workgroup to match the XP's.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=922120
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#ELC
Good
luck,
Woody
"Re:
Pivot Table/Query" <RePivotTableQuery@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
in
message news:E9D85304-65E9-430B-9268-EACDE2DF4F33@microsoft.com...
>I
have just added a new pc with vista. My other 2 pcs are running XP
& are
>
networked just fine. I have been unable to "see" either pc
from vista or
>
"see" vista from either pc. I have followed all
instructions and set all
>
settings to allow networking. I am so upset that I am ready to take
this
>
pc
>
back and buy an older one with XP. Can anyone help before I make a
trip
>
back
>
to the store.
Top
From: Shubhankar Sanyal [MSFT]
<sanyals@online.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Offline Folders
Date:
02/01/2007 21:48:41
Stefano,
I
had a few questions and things to try out so I can more clearly understand
the
scenario-
1.
Did you make the parent folder/share "available offline"
from the client
or
is the share an autocached share on the server?
2.
Can you add the "offline status" and "offline
availablity" columns to
your
explorer view and let us know the values for the xls and the xlsx
files?
3.
What happens if you create the xlsx file while offline? Is this also not
visible
the next time you go offline?
Thanks,
Shubhankar
"Stefano"
<Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9E6A056B-8E2F-426F-BF96-1BD00B419F3E@microsoft.com...
>
Thanks for your follow up Jill.
>
I see this behavior both on desktop and laptop. Would you like me to send
>
you the laptop?
>
Have a nice day.
>
Stefano
>
>
"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>
news:%23bpISAOQHHA.468@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
We are checking on this. So far we have not been able to reproduce this
>>
but will keep trying.
>>
>>
--
>>
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
>>
rights.
>>
>>
Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
>>
team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>
>>
>>
"Stefano" <Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
news:2CA1CD9E-66E9-455D-998E-0506DC9D8661@microsoft.com...
>>>I
run Vista (RTM) and Office 2007 on my
desktop; the computer is part of
>>>a
>>>
domain and the excel files are saved on the server (SBS 2003 R2).
>>>
I have several folders that are on the server marked as available
>>>
offline;
>>>
my problem is that, when disconnected form the server, I can open every
>>>
file
>>>
but the ones saved in the native Office 2007 format (xlsx). I tried to
>>>
create a test spreadsheet and save it in the same location and the same
>>>
name, one copy as test.xlsx and the other as test.xls; the the latter is
>>>
available when I am offline, the former not. Also note that both of them
>>>
are
>>>
marked as available offline under "Properties"/ "Offline
files" Tab.
>>>
Thanks in advance for your advice.
>>>
Stefano
>>>
>>
>>
>
Top
From: David Redmond
<david.redmond@intergaph.com>
To:
Kysa <nera@mailo.lt>
Subject:
Re: OpenVPN in Vista not
working, why
Date:
02/01/2007 18:12:47
Kysa
wrote:
>
on WinXP worked fine... ?
OpenVPN
works fine under Vista for me - if
the routes are not being
added
you need to add these lines to your client config and run OpenVPN
as
an administrator.
route-method
exe
route-delay
2
Cheers,
David
Top
From: Steve Winograd [MVP] <bcmaven@mvps.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Operating System is not supported
Date:
02/03/2007 16:35:06
In
article <583A2426-CFB9-40E9-94EC-D135ADAEC729@microsoft.com>,
Let2uce
<Let2uce@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>How
come everytime we try to pull up a website it shows us "Operating
System
>not
supported".
>We
already configured the Actiontec and was able to ping a website inside
>Actiontec
and it was successful.
Does
this happen with every web site you try, or just with a
particular
one?
It's
possible that a particular web site doesn't think that Windows
Vista is a valid operating
system. If so, the web site authors need
to
update their site.
--
Best
Wishes,
Steve
Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
Please
post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for
everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed
directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
Microsoft
Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Top
From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Printer Sharing between xp and Vista
Date:
02/02/2007 19:41:00
Gay
Lynne,
I'm
sorry you're experiencing this. A few folks in other posts are
finding
that
by adjusting their firewalls, the problem is solved. If you're
running
OneCare,
do the following (thanks, Tom!):
Windows
Live OneCare ->
Change
OneCare Settinge ->
Firewall
connection tool ->
Tick
relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
etc)
->
OK
->
Advanced
Settings ->
Change
file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
OK
->
OK
Please
try that and let us know!
K
"Gay
Lynne Kegan" wrote:
>
I have a few printers connected to my xp machine. I can see the
printer on
>
my Vista computer but when I go to install
it I get an access denied
>
message. What do I do so I can use my printers?
>
>
Gay Lynne
>
Top
From: Gay Lynne Kegan
<GLKegan@cox.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Printer Sharing between xp and Vista
Date:
02/02/2007 20:45:48
I
am using the firewall on my netgear router. I turned off the windows
firewall.
"Kim
[MS]" <KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2A168BD-D293-458A-9D58-9700314FED6A@microsoft.com...
>
Gay Lynne,
>
>
I'm sorry you're experiencing this. A few folks in other posts are
>
finding
>
that by adjusting their firewalls, the problem is solved. If you're
>
running
>
OneCare, do the following (thanks, Tom!):
>
>
Windows Live OneCare ->
>
Change OneCare Settinge ->
>
Firewall connection tool ->
>
Tick relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
>
etc) ->
>
OK ->
>
Advanced Settings ->
>
Change file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
>
OK ->
>
OK
>
>
Please try that and let us know!
>
>
K
>
>
"Gay Lynne Kegan" wrote:
>
>>
I have a few printers connected to my xp machine. I can see the
printer
>>
on
>>
my Vista computer but when I go to install
it I get an access denied
>>
message. What do I do so I can use my printers?
>>
>>
Gay Lynne
>>
Top
From: Kim [MS]
<KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Printer Sharing between xp and Vista
Date:
02/03/2007 03:11:00
Did
that work for you? Let us know.
Thanks!
"Gay
Lynne Kegan" wrote:
>
I am using the firewall on my netgear router. I turned off the
windows
>
firewall.
>
>
"Kim [MS]" <KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>
news:B2A168BD-D293-458A-9D58-9700314FED6A@microsoft.com...
>
> Gay Lynne,
>
>
>
> I'm sorry you're experiencing this. A few folks in other posts
are
>
> finding
>
> that by adjusting their firewalls, the problem is solved. If
you're
>
> running
>
> OneCare, do the following (thanks, Tom!):
>
>
>
> Windows Live OneCare ->
>
> Change OneCare Settinge ->
>
> Firewall connection tool ->
>
> Tick relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
>
> etc) ->
>
> OK ->
>
> Advanced Settings ->
>
> Change file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
>
> OK ->
>
> OK
>
>
>
> Please try that and let us know!
>
>
>
> K
>
>
>
> "Gay Lynne Kegan" wrote:
>
>
>
>> I have a few printers connected to my xp machine. I can see
the printer
>
>> on
>
>> my Vista computer but when I go to
install it I get an access denied
>
>> message. What do I do so I can use my printers?
>
>>
>
>> Gay Lynne
>
>>
>
Top
From: Gay Lynne Kegan
<GLKegan@cox.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Printer Sharing between xp and Vista
Date:
02/03/2007 20:20:48
It
still didn't work. I get an access denied note.
"Kim
[MS]" <KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5DECF28C-0AFC-4819-B555-59F6459BDC19@microsoft.com...
>
Did that work for you? Let us know.
>
>
Thanks!
>
>
"Gay Lynne Kegan" wrote:
>
>>
I am using the firewall on my netgear router. I turned off the
windows
>>
firewall.
>>
>>
"Kim [MS]" <KimMS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>>
news:B2A168BD-D293-458A-9D58-9700314FED6A@microsoft.com...
>>
> Gay Lynne,
>>
>
>>
> I'm sorry you're experiencing this. A few folks in other posts
are
>>
> finding
>>
> that by adjusting their firewalls, the problem is solved. If
you're
>>
> running
>>
> OneCare, do the following (thanks, Tom!):
>>
>
>>
> Windows Live OneCare ->
>>
> Change OneCare Settinge ->
>>
> Firewall connection tool ->
>>
> Tick relevant options (Network discovery, file and print settings,
>>
> etc) ->
>>
> OK ->
>>
> Advanced Settings ->
>>
> Change file sharing from 'Do not share files and printers" ->
>>
> OK ->
>>
> OK
>>
>
>>
> Please try that and let us know!
>>
>
>>
> K
>>
>
>>
> "Gay Lynne Kegan" wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> I have a few printers connected to my xp machine. I can see
the
>>
>> printer
>>
>> on
>>
>> my Vista computer but when I go to
install it I get an access denied
>>
>> message. What do I do so I can use my printers?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gay Lynne
>>
>>
>>
Top
From: Kerry Brown
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Printer Sharing between xp and Vista
Date:
02/03/2007 11:48:52
Make
sure the XP machine has a user account with the same username and
password
as you are using on Vista. Another
possible problem is drivers. If
Vista doesn't have built in drivers for
the printer it tries to load the
drivers
from the XP computer. This probably won't work and shows up as
different
errors depending on the printer. Sometimes you can get it to work
by
installing a local printer that is compatible then changing the port in
the
printer properties to the printer share (i.e.
\\computername\printename).
What printers are we talking about?
--
Kerry
Brown
Microsoft
MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca
"Gay
Lynne Kegan" <GLKegan@cox.net> wrote in message
news:257E50B5-51C7-4159-BAB3-48D4B0EDC310@microsoft.com...
>I
have a few printers connected to my xp machine. I can see the printer
on
>my
Vista computer but when I go to install
it I get an access denied
>message.
What do I do so I can use my printers?
>
>
Gay Lynne
>
Top
From: Bruce Sanderson
<bsanders@newsgroups.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: reconnecting network drive in Vista Business
Date:
02/03/2007 18:49:07
I've
noticed sometimes that the "balloon" about not all network drives
being
re-connected
lies. Also, sometimes the network drive in the navigation
(left)
pane shows a red "X", but I can still access files and folders in
the
mapped
network drive.
Is
the problem that the warning balloon appears or that if you attempt to
navigate
to files on the mapped drive it fails?
When
you set up the Mapped Network Drive, did you specify a user account and
password?
--
Bruce
Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
It
is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
"NG"
<NG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F12F0476-1F7A-4FC4-AE44-37F62027912D@microsoft.com...
>I
am having an issue where Vista Business is not reconnecting to a mapped
>
network drive after I restart. The network drive is on a NAS system
that
>
is
>
always on. I have selected the check box for "reconnect at
login", and it
>
still is not working. My windows XP Pro machine is working fine and
>
reconnects every time.
>
>
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
NG
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From: Jork
<Jork@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: reconnecting network drive in Vista Business
Date:
02/04/2007 06:31:00
I
have the same logon problem both with XP home and Vista Basic in relation
to
a LaCie ethernet mini disk. With XP I find that for "user" fills
in a
differen
tuser name, that is one of the users define d for XP, while I logged
on
with the name administrator on the LaCie disk. With Vista no user
name is
shown,
so I do not now if if Vista tried any.
"Bruce
Sanderson" wrote:
>
I've noticed sometimes that the "balloon" about not all network
drives being
>
re-connected lies. Also, sometimes the network drive in the
navigation
>
(left) pane shows a red "X", but I can still access files and
folders in the
>
mapped network drive.
>
>
Is the problem that the warning balloon appears or that if you attempt to
>
navigate to files on the mapped drive it fails?
>
>
When you set up the Mapped Network Drive, did you specify a user account
and
>
password?
>
>
--
>
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
>
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
>
>
It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>
>
>
>
"NG" <NG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
news:F12F0476-1F7A-4FC4-AE44-37F62027912D@microsoft.com...
>
>I am having an issue where Vista Business is not reconnecting to a
mapped
>
> network drive after I restart. The network drive is on a NAS
system that
>
> is
>
> always on. I have selected the check box for "reconnect at
login", and it
>
> still is not working. My windows XP Pro machine is working fine
and
>
> reconnects every time.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> NG
>
Top
From: Bruce Sanderson
<bsanders@newsgroups.nospam>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: reconnecting network drive in Vista Business
Date:
02/04/2007 20:02:34
When
Windows is asked to connect to a network share, it always sends the
username
(and domain name if there is one) and password of the currently
logged
on user. If this fails (the target computer doesn't "know"
this
username
and password - "authentication" fails), Windows displays a
credentials
prompt for the user to supply a different username and password.
On Vista, the
built-in user account called Administrator is "Disabled" by
default
and can not be used to logon locally or connect to shares from
another
computer; on XP it is "Enabled" by default.
When
Windows XP or Vista is installed, a user account
with the name
specified
by the installer (or very first person to starts the computer), is
created
This user account is added to the local Administrators group.
If
you are not sure what username you are logged on with for any reason
(e.g.
you get logged on automatically):
1.
click Start, Run
2.
key
cmd
press Enter
(or,
luanch Command Prompt via All Programs, Accessories etc.)
3.
key
set username
press Enter
This
command will respond with the username of the currently logged on user.
I'm
not familiar with the LaCie ethernet mini disk, but the Manual for it
http://www.lacie.com/download/manual/ethernetdiskmini_en.pdf
says that one
can
use its built-in web site to configure "Users". You might
want to
create
a "User" on the mini disk that has the same username and password
that
you logon to your XP or Vista computer
with. This should avoid the
prompt
for credentials you get when you connect to "shares" on it.
--
Bruce
Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
It
is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
"Jork"
<Jork@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1A7DA0FE-B28A-4321-A01F-38B0B1F2866A@microsoft.com...
>
>
I have the same logon problem both with XP home and Vista Basic in
>
relation
>
to a LaCie ethernet mini disk. With XP I find that for "user" fills
in a
>
differen tuser name, that is one of the users define d for XP, while I
>
logged
>
on with the name administrator on the LaCie disk. With Vista no user
name
>
is
>
shown, so I do not now if if Vista tried any.
>
>
"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:
>
>>
I've noticed sometimes that the "balloon" about not all network
drives
>>
being
>>
re-connected lies. Also, sometimes the network drive in the
navigation
>>
(left) pane shows a red "X", but I can still access files and
folders in
>>
the
>>
mapped network drive.
>>
>>
Is the problem that the warning balloon appears or that if you attempt to
>>
navigate to files on the mapped drive it fails?
>>
>>
When you set up the Mapped Network Drive, did you specify a user account
>>
and
>>
password?
>>
>>
--
>>
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
>>
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
>>
>>
It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>>
>>
>>
>>
"NG" <NG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>
news:F12F0476-1F7A-4FC4-AE44-37F62027912D@microsoft.com...
>>
>I am having an issue where Vista Business is not reconnecting to a
>>
>mapped
>>
> network drive after I restart. The network drive is on a NAS
system
>>
> that
>>
> is
>>
> always on. I have selected the check box for "reconnect at
login", and
>>
> it
>>
> still is not working. My windows XP Pro machine is working fine
and
>>
> reconnects every time.
>>
>
>>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>
>>
> NG
>>
Top
From: NG
<NG@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: reconnecting network drive in Vista Business
Date:
02/04/2007 22:37:01
It
was both the balloon and the actual connection. Whenever I went to
"computer"
it showed the red X through the network drive. Then when I would
click
on one of the drive icons it would prompt for a user name and password.
I
just set up Vista on this machine, so it took
me a while to realize that
while
I had set up a user account, I had not set up a password for it. Once
I
did that and restarted, everything worked perfectly (Am I allowed to say
that
a Microsoft product is working perfectly right at launch? :>)
). Now
when
I log into my user account, even though the password is different, Vista
still
logs into the NAS server using the user name and password I had
provided
during the mapping of the drive.
The
problem has been solved - it was a simple user account configuration error
Thanks
to everyone who replied.
NG
"Bruce
Sanderson" wrote:
>
I've noticed sometimes that the "balloon" about not all network
drives being
>
re-connected lies. Also, sometimes the network drive in the
navigation
>
(left) pane shows a red "X", but I can still access files and
folders in the
>
mapped network drive.
>
>
Is the problem that the warning balloon appears or that if you attempt to
>
navigate to files on the mapped drive it fails?
>
>
When you set up the Mapped Network Drive, did you specify a user account
and
>
password?
>
>
--
>
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
>
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders
>
>
It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>
>
>
>
"NG" <NG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
news:F12F0476-1F7A-4FC4-AE44-37F62027912D@microsoft.com...
>
>I am having an issue where Vista Business is not reconnecting to a
mapped
>
> network drive after I restart. The network drive is on a NAS
system that
>
> is
>
> always on. I have selected the check box for "reconnect at
login", and it
>
> still is not working. My windows XP Pro machine is working fine
and
>
> reconnects every time.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> NG
>
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From: Scorpiuscat <Scorpiuscat
@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Remote Desktop in Vista is a
disaster
Date:
02/06/2007 10:22:01
Ummm.....Remote
Desktop is available in Vista Home Premium. I can say with a
level
of certaintly as I have Vista Home Premium and I have been using Remote
Desktop.
"Andante"
wrote:
>
I was all ready to drop some serious cash to upgrade to Vista today when
I
>
learned that Remote Desktop feature is now considered some rare luxury only
>
available on the Business and Ultimate versions. For home users with
>
multiple computers (are there any families left in America that have
only one
>
PC??), this is a complete disaster.
>
>
I think I am a pretty simple and very typical home user - I've got a
laptop,
>
and I've got a desktop and I've been remote desktopping between the two for
>
eons (we will leave out of this that of course my son also has a desktop
and
>
a laptop, and the hub has a laptop - God forbid it would be nice to be able
>
to remote desktop with those using Vista (as I do
now), but I won't get
>
greedy). I only HAVE TO remote desktop - in BOTH directions - between
my
>
laptop and my desktop.
>
>
Microsoft has decided this is some ultra fancy feature now out of reach for
>
mere mortals. Right now my XP Pro desktop and humble Media Center laptop
>
(which was installed on zillions of home computers) can be accessed in both
>
directions, no sweat. But now, with the new fantastic operating
system that
>
costs major bucks, this feature is being removed!
>
>
At first I saw that if I popped for an Ultimate upgrade (an eye-popping
>
$250), that I would be able to purchase other Vista editions
for $50 - AH,
>
but they certainly won't do remote desktop. So to get the same simple
>
functionality I have now - just to connect my own two computers - I would
>
have to drop $500 HUNDRED DOLLARS simply to get the ability to remote
desktop
>
between my my desktop and my laptop. This is absolutely insane, and
>
guarantees that I would be crazy to even consider upgrading to Vista.
>
>
Here's another kicker: My desktop probably can't really hack Vista (too
>
much older hardware that could pose conflicts, lack of upgradeability) --
so
>
it would be natural to put the Vista Ultimate on my laptop that is only a
>
year old, that I do use more than the desktop because of freedom of
location.
>
BUT the machine I need to remote desktop INTO literally dozens of times a
>
day... is the DESKTOP.
>
>
I thought Microsoft had finally gotten into it's head that home computer
>
users are no longer the one computer simpletons of the olden days - for
>
example, their marketing of the "Students and Teachers" version
of Office
>
that included licenses for 3 machines at a very reasonable price
seemed to
>
indicate they got what the typical home scenario is these days. But
here
>
they go right back to the dark ages.... asserting that the only people who
>
need such an exotic feature as remote desktop are fancy business
users. As a
>
further kick in the tush, you can't even just get the Business version for
>
home because, duh, you then don't get the Media Center
features!!! Want the
>
same functionality that you enjoy now - it's $500 bucks or forget it.
>
>
Today I would have happily popped for the Ultimate, and the $50 for an
extra
>
copy... around $300... but now have no intention of ever upgrading to Vista
>
until it shows up on a new machine I buy in the future. I guess I
should
>
thank Bill for saving me some hard-earned cash.
>
>
>
>
----------------
>
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
>
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
follow this
>
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
>
click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
>
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From: Dave R. <dwragle at drbsystems
dot com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remote Desktop in Vista is a
disaster
Date:
02/06/2007 10:32:35
"Scorpiuscat"
<Scorpiuscat @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:261EE498-68F9-40C6-966A-AEE006FEC552@microsoft.com...
>
Ummm.....Remote Desktop is available in Vista Home Premium. I can say
>
with a
>
level of certaintly as I have Vista Home Premium and I have been using
>
Remote
>
Desktop.
>
Vista
Home Premium does indeed include the Remote Desktop *Client* (that
is,
you can Remote Desktop from Vista Home Premium to another machine)
but
it does not include the Remote Desktop *Host* (that is, you cannot
Remote
Desktop into a machine running Vista Home Premium).
Regards,
Dave
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From: Scorpiuscat
<Scorpiuscat@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remote Desktop in Vista is a
disaster
Date:
02/06/2007 11:03:02
I
see, thank you for the clarification.
So
can I assume that MS does not offer a Remote Desktop Host download to add
that
ability to Vista?
"Dave
R." wrote:
>
>
"Scorpiuscat" <Scorpiuscat @discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message
>
news:261EE498-68F9-40C6-966A-AEE006FEC552@microsoft.com...
>
> Ummm.....Remote Desktop is available in Vista Home Premium. I can say
>
> with a
>
> level of certaintly as I have Vista Home Premium and I have been using
>
> Remote
>
> Desktop.
>
>
>
>
Vista Home Premium does indeed include the Remote Desktop *Client* (that
>
is, you can Remote Desktop from Vista Home Premium to another machine)
>
but it does not include the Remote Desktop *Host* (that is, you cannot
>
Remote Desktop into a machine running Vista Home Premium).
>
>
Regards,
>
>
Dave
>
>
>
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From: Dave R. <dwragle at drbsystems
dot com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remote Desktop in Vista is a
disaster
Date:
02/06/2007 13:31:01
"Scorpiuscat"
<Scorpiuscat@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BF936BD9-BAD7-4C67-A181-3D4DD7E71884@microsoft.com...
>
"Dave R." wrote:
>>
"Scorpiuscat" <Scorpiuscat @discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in
>>
message
>>
news:261EE498-68F9-40C6-966A-AEE006FEC552@microsoft.com...
>>
> Ummm.....Remote Desktop is available in Vista Home Premium. I can
>>
> say
>>
> with a
>>
> level of certaintly as I have Vista Home Premium and I have been
>>
> using
>>
> Remote
>>
> Desktop.
>>
>
>>
>>
Vista Home Premium does indeed include the Remote Desktop *Client*
>>
(that
>>
is, you can Remote Desktop from Vista Home Premium to another
>>
machine)
>>
but it does not include the Remote Desktop *Host* (that is, you
>>
cannot
>>
Remote Desktop into a machine running Vista Home Premium).
>>
>I
see, thank you for the clarification.
>
>
So can I assume that MS does not offer a Remote Desktop Host download
>
to add
>
that ability to Vista?
>
No,
only the Business, Enterprise and
Ultimate versions of Vista support
Remote
Desktop Host.
Best
Regards,
Dave
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From: jimmuh
<jimmuh@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Remote networking to Vista Ultimate computers.
Date:
02/05/2007 12:53:03
If
the computer at work is on a network you are going to want to talk with
the
people who manage that network. They will have to set you up with a
solution,
if one is to be had. Since their primary duty to the company is to
maintain
the functionality and security of that network, don't be surprised
if
they are less than cooperative. There are many pitfalls to establishing
communications
between employees' systems at home and resources on the
company
network. It can be done, and fairly securely, but not without some
considerable
effort on their part -- depending upon the configuration of that
network.
If
your situation is different from what I have surmised -- like you just
have
your own standalone system at work connected to the Internet by
broadband
or what-have-you then you should post back with specific
information
so someone can try to help you.
"LJuliet97"
wrote:
>
I am pretty unexperienced about networking but I am trying to be able to
use
>
one of my vista ultimate computers to get files off another vista ultimate
>
computer at my work over the internet. We do not have a VPN. I am not sure
>
how to set one up or even if this is my best way of doing it. Any info you
>
can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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From: LJuliet97
<LJuliet97@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Remote networking to Vista Ultimate computers.
Date:
02/05/2007 13:25:02
We
do not have anyone who manages our network. What kind of specs do I need.
We
are a small printing company. We have 5 pcs and 1 mac networked though
Netgear
router. There are only two people who use the computers. I wish we
had
an IT Dept., but unfortunately I am it. I know quite a bit about
operating
a computer but very little about networking and remote access.
"jimmuh"
wrote:
>
If the computer at work is on a network you are going to want to talk with
>
the people who manage that network. They will have to set you up with a
>
solution, if one is to be had. Since their primary duty to the company is
to
>
maintain the functionality and security of that network, don't be surprised
>
if they are less than cooperative. There are many pitfalls to establishing
>
communications between employees' systems at home and resources on the
>
company network. It can be done, and fairly securely, but not without some
>
considerable effort on their part -- depending upon the configuration of
that
>
network.
>
>
If your situation is different from what I have surmised -- like you just
>
have your own standalone system at work connected to the Internet by
>
broadband or what-have-you then you should post back with specific
>
information so someone can try to help you.
>
>
"LJuliet97" wrote:
>
>
> I am pretty unexperienced about networking but I am trying to be able
to use
>
> one of my vista ultimate computers to get files off another vista
ultimate
>
> computer at my work over the internet. We do not have a VPN. I am not
sure
>
> how to set one up or even if this is my best way of doing it. Any info
you
>
> can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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From: jimmuh
<jimmuh@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Remote networking to Vista Ultimate computers.
Date:
02/05/2007 14:14:01
Okay.
In that case you have a LOT of choices.
Setting up a VPN would be one
of
the better choices -- IF the routers at both ends (I'm assuming you're
using
a router at home, too.) are capable of it. I'm afraid it's unlikely
that
you'll be able to get the process nailed down on the newsgroup. There
can
be a LOT of steps, and they vary with the
equipment you're using.
In
general you need to learn how to set up port forwarding on your routers.
You'll
also need to learn whether your work routers IP address is fixed or
dynamically
assigned. If dynamically assigned you'll have to make use of a
service
to keep your home PC apprised of the current address of the router at
work
-- so that it can find it. Then the port forwarding makes it possible to
make
it past the Netgear router's Network Address Translation (NAT) to get to
the
resources on the work PC. You could just make shares available, or you
could
log on to the work PC by enabling remote desktop connection. Or you
could
go the low, and very dangerous, route and just stick the work machine
in
the DMZ of the router (if it has one). This would be, in my opinion, a
VERY
bad idea -- but it works for some people if there are absolutely no
security
concerns with respect to the data or the PC being put at risk. (The
ONLY
reason I'm really mentioning this is that you might hear that suggestion
from
someone else, and I want you to know that it is the way NOT to do what
you
want to do.)
First,
I suggest lookining here:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/vpn.htm
Read
the whole thing carefully so that you really understand it. It's
actually
a pretty good overview, and you will be best served by understanding
the
basic principles before diving in to the nitty gritty.
Then
you need to do the basic research on what your specific router at work
is
capable of. It is likely that the only real stumbling block will be
figuring
out how to manage the router at work into letting you do what you
want
to do. The router at home should be no problem because it will allow a
return
from any process on any port that you send OUT through it. (That's the
basic
idea of NAT.) If the router at work supports VPN then you definitely
should
consider that as your first and best choice. When configuring go for
the
gold, security-wise. Otherwise, use a USB key. And, yes, I am serious. If
you
leave that PC at work hanging out in the open it will be compromised, and
very
quickly.
I'm
not sure, but I suspect that Netgear probably has forums for
user-to-user
support. Most manufacturers of networking gear do have such
forums,
and the most precise answers about how to set up a particular router
for
a particular use will probably be found there -- except in the unlikely
case
that the manual that came with the router is a good one. The consumer
grade
routers often come with manuals that are a little light on explanations
with
respect to advanced configurations. If it's a higher end router then you
may
very well have the answers in the manual.
"LJuliet97"
wrote:
>
We do not have anyone who manages our network. What kind of specs do I
need.
>
We are a small printing company. We have 5 pcs and 1 mac networked though
>
Netgear router. There are only two people who use the computers. I wish we
>
had an IT Dept., but unfortunately I am it. I know quite a bit about
>
operating a computer but very little about networking and remote access.
>
>
"jimmuh" wrote:
>
>
> If the computer at work is on a network you are going to want to talk
with
>
> the people who manage that network. They will have to set you up with
a
>
> solution, if one is to be had. Since their primary duty to the company
is to
>
> maintain the functionality and security of that network, don't be
surprised
>
> if they are less than cooperative. There are many pitfalls to
establishing
>
> communications between employees' systems at home and resources on the
>
> company network. It can be done, and fairly securely, but not without
some
>
> considerable effort on their part -- depending upon the configuration
of that
>
> network.
>
>
>
> If your situation is different from what I have surmised -- like you
just
>
> have your own standalone system at work connected to the Internet by
>
> broadband or what-have-you then you should post back with specific
>
> information so someone can try to help you.
>
>
>
> "LJuliet97" wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am pretty unexperienced about networking but I am trying to be
able to use
>
> > one of my vista ultimate computers to get files off another vista
ultimate
>
> > computer at my work over the internet. We do not have a VPN. I am
not sure
>
> > how to set one up or even if this is my best way of doing it. Any
info you
>
> > can give me would be greatly appreciated.
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From: The Thinker
<admin@pushmaternity.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remote networking to Vista Ultimate computers.
Date:
02/05/2007 16:22:27
On
5 Feb, 04:25, LJuliet97
<LJulie...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
>
I am pretty unexperienced about networking but I am trying to be able to
use
>
one of my vista ultimate computers to get files off another vista ultimate
>
computer at my work over the internet. We do not have a VPN. I am not sure
>
how to set one up or even if this is my best way of doing it. Any info you
>
can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Hi,
For
a simple solution, you could look at
https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=home
It
doesn't work with Vista as yet
(they say hopefully by the end of
Feb),
but it is a simple product to use, and you do not have to do any
router
/ network config. I use it to maintain the pc's between home /
work.
Josh
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From: jimmuh
<jimmuh@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remote networking to Vista Ultimate computers.
Date:
02/05/2007 17:13:00
Oh
sure! Take all the fun out of it!
;-)
No,
seriously, the third party solutions may not be a bad idea, if you don't
mind
paying for them. I've never actually investigated any of them so don't
know
much about potential security issues. That is, of course, something
about
which you should always be concerned. But doing some basic research
should
show you whether or not there are security concerns for a given
software
package.
This
software looks like a "turnkey" solution, and that would put it
in the
same
category, more or less, as several other software packages that do the
same
thing -- connnect your home PC to your work PC. Their main selling point
is
that they are easy. You install the software on your home PC, you install
it
on the work PC, and it just works.
Frankly,
setting up a VPN isn't really that much harder -- except, perhaps,
for
figuring out how to do whatever is required with your router(s). And you
can
learn a lot from doing it. But a "learning experience" is NOT
what most
people
are looking for.
So,
I think that The Thinker has offered you a possibility that I should
have
considered. I know this stuff exists. It's just that I prefer to stay as
"basic"
(not involving third party software) as I can. Just a philosophical
orientation,
NOT a religion.
So,
LJuliet97, you should consider ALL of your options carefully, and then
just
choose one based on the information you can find about the alternative.
The
in-built Microsoft solutions combined with the capabilities of the router
should
suffice, and you get a chance to learn "how things work." But
there's
a
lot to be said for ease of use, too. Not all of us like bumping up against
obstacles.
I happen to have a lot of bumps on my head. Heh.
"The
Thinker" wrote:
>
On 5 Feb, 04:25, LJuliet97
<LJulie...@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
wrote:
>
> I am pretty unexperienced about networking but I am trying to be able
to use
>
> one of my vista ultimate computers to get files off another vista
ultimate
>
> computer at my work over the internet. We do not have a VPN. I am not
sure
>
> how to set one up or even if this is my best way of doing it. Any info
you
>
> can give me would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
Hi,
>
>
For a simple solution, you could look at
>
>
https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=home
>
>
It doesn't work with Vista as yet
(they say hopefully by the end of
>
Feb), but it is a simple product to use, and you do not have to do any
>
router / network config. I use it to maintain the pc's between home /
>
work.
>
>
Josh
>
>
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From: Sooner Al [MVP]
<SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Remote networking to Vista Ultimate computers.
Date:
02/06/2007 07:27:55
"LJuliet97"
<LJuliet97@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E7B67EEE-0A2A-4A49-9D0D-05AD551D99A5@microsoft.com...
>I
am pretty unexperienced about networking but I am trying to be able to
>use
>
one of my vista ultimate computers to get files off another vista ultimate
>
computer at my work over the internet. We do not have a VPN. I am not sure
>
how to set one up or even if this is my best way of doing it. Any info you
>
can give me would be greatly appreciated.
If
you want to setup the Vista machine at
work as a PPTP VPN server for
secure
remote access of your shared files see this page for help...
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/Vista/PPTP/PPTPVPN.html
--
Al
Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
Please
post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual
benefit of all of us...
The
MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This
posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
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From: Robert W
<RobertW@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Setting up a home network Xp & Vista no go
Date:
02/05/2007 17:23:00
I have
a small network running where one machine is Vista and the
rest are XP
and
it functions correctly, its Vista HP aswell.
First
thing to do is makesure all machines are using the same workgroup or
sharing
will not be possible. Vista sets the
workgroup to WORKGROUP unlike XP
which
sets it to MSHOME. Makesure both machines have the same workgroup ID,
check
in System Properties -> Computer Name, if you need to update one hit
the
CHANGE button, a system reset will be required for the change to take
effect.
In Vista the Public
Folder needs to be set to enable sharing, Public Folder
is
the XP equivalent of Shared Documents on XP. If you have a printer
installed
you will need to enable this sharing as well, all this is done from
the
Network and Sharing Center, you also
need to decide whether to have
password
sharing on or off.
I
hope this helps.
--
Robert
W
"George"
wrote:
>
I had a network setup with two pc's running xp. I swapped one of them
out
>
for a vista home premium pc and now i have no network. I run the
wizard from
>
the xp machine and put the netsetup.exe on a flash drive and place it in
the
>
vista pc. I run the exe file but it fails at the end of the
setup. I see
>
the vista machine in the work group when i check it from the xp pc
but i see
>
nothing in the vista machine when i go to it's work group. I can't file or
>
printer share like before with two xp machines. Help me before i break this
>
thing.
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From: Max <max@home.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Should Vista auto
connect to internet on start up?
Date:
02/05/2007 04:28:52
Yes,
it should.
Does
your router provide your IP address?
Do
you have both options to "Obtain * address automatically"
correctly set
in
the TCP properties for your connection?
Do
you use a proxy?
--
Maxwell
Bluemeanie
------
"The
Thinker" <admin@pushmaternity.com> wrote in message
news:1170667211.660234.42550@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
Hi,
>
Simple question, should Vista
automatically connect to the internet on
>
start up if there is a internet connection available (either cable or
>
wireless) the same as XP does?
>
Set up is:
>
- not a domain machine
>
- on a private network (LAN behind router / firewall etc)
>
- vanilla installation of Vista Business
>
>
At present, mine does not and I have to do a repair via the network
>
control screen (ipconfig /renew I assume) to get it to connect. I
>
don't think that this can be right, but can't see what I'm doing
>
wrong!
>
>
Thanks,
>
Josh
>
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From: The Thinker
<admin@pushmaternity.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Should Vista auto
connect to internet on start up?
Date:
02/05/2007 04:38:50
On
5 Feb, 09:28,
"Max" <m...@home.com> wrote:
>
Yes, it should.
>
Does your router provide your IP address?
>
Do you have both options to "Obtain * address automatically"
correctly set
>
in the TCP properties for your connection?
>
Do you use a proxy?
>
Yes
- router provides IP address
Yes
- both options for IP / DNS set to obtain automatically in TCP/IP
settings
No
- proxy
Couple
of observations:
1.
network setup works fine for XP machines
2.
same symptions for both wired & wireless
3.
does connect, obtaining correct IP address if you repair connection
4.
still have the same problem if you disconnect / re-connect network
cable
while machine is running
Seems
that whilst my XP installations would renew IP on detecting a
new
network connection (either on startup or disconnect/reconnect
cable),
Vista does not.
Josh
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From: Max <max@home.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Should Vista auto
connect to internet on start up?
Date:
02/05/2007 04:56:51
OK,
then sorry--I don't have an answer since I have not experienced what you
describe.
I
have read that there have been some connection issues coming out of
sleep/hibernation
on some machines in Vista, but I
don't have those issues
either.
Perhaps check to make sure that your adapter is not set to power
off--Connection
Status/Details/Power Management tab.
Maybe
someone else will come along with some suggestions.
--
Maxwell
Bluemeanie
------
"The
Thinker" <admin@pushmaternity.com> wrote in message
news:1170668330.559894.16430@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
On 5 Feb, 09:28,
"Max" <m...@home.com> wrote:
>>
Yes, it should.
>>
Does your router provide your IP address?
>>
Do you have both options to "Obtain * address automatically"
correctly
>>
set
>>
in the TCP properties for your connection?
>>
Do you use a proxy?
>>
>
>
Yes - router provides IP address
>
Yes - both options for IP / DNS set to obtain automatically in TCP/IP
>
settings
>
No - proxy
>
>
Couple of observations:
>
1. network setup works fine for XP machines
>
2. same symptions for both wired & wireless
>
3. does connect, obtaining correct IP address if you repair connection
>
4. still have the same problem if you disconnect / re-connect network
>
cable while machine is running
>
Seems that whilst my XP installations would renew IP on detecting a
>
new network connection (either on startup or disconnect/reconnect
>
cable), Vista does not.
>
>
Josh
>
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From: Mason
<Mason@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Should Vista auto
connect to internet on start up?
Date:
02/05/2007 09:39:01
hey
max, I have the Hibernate/sleep problem with my network, can you point me
to
where there are other people having the similar problem? I posted my
question
on this forum but no one has responded yet
"Max"
wrote:
>
OK, then sorry--I don't have an answer since I have not experienced what
you
>
describe.
>
I have read that there have been some connection issues coming out of
>
sleep/hibernation on some machines in Vista, but I
don't have those issues
>
either. Perhaps check to make sure that your adapter is not set to power
>
off--Connection Status/Details/Power Management tab.
>
Maybe someone else will come along with some suggestions.
>
>
--
>
Maxwell Bluemeanie
>
------
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From: Max <max@home.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Should Vista auto
connect to internet on start up?
Date:
02/05/2007 09:47:58
Sorry,
don't really remember if I read about it in these forums or elsewhere
online--or
if anybody had a solution.
Me:
DOH!
Maybe
start here?
http://www.google.com/search?num=20?
--
Maxwell
Bluemeanie
------
"Mason"
<Mason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:187381BC-EA88-4BBA-A50C-831AFBCBD06D@microsoft.com...
>
hey max, I have the Hibernate/sleep problem with my network, can you point
>
me
>
to where there are other people having the similar problem? I posted my
>
question on this forum but no one has responded yet
>
>
"Max" wrote:
>
>>
OK, then sorry--I don't have an answer since I have not experienced what
>>
you
>>
describe.
>>
I have read that there have been some connection issues coming out of
>>
sleep/hibernation on some machines in Vista, but I
don't have those
>>
issues
>>
either. Perhaps check to make sure that your adapter is not set to power
>>
off--Connection Status/Details/Power Management tab.
>>
Maybe someone else will come along with some suggestions.
>>
>>
--
>>
Maxwell Bluemeanie
>>
------
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From: The Thinker
<admin@pushmaternity.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Should Vista auto
connect to internet on start up?
Date:
02/05/2007 16:30:18
>
>> either. Perhaps check to make sure that your adapter is not set to
power
>
>> off--Connection Status/Details/Power Management tab.
>
>> Maybe someone else will come along with some suggestions.
>
>
>> --
>
>> Maxwell Bluemeanie
Hi
Max,
Thanks
for the suggestion above - changed a few of the power saving
modes
(should have guessed as it is a laptop) and seems to have cured
the
problem - fingers crossed.
Cheers,
Josh
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From: E-Coder
<ECoder@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Sync Mobile 5 with Outlook 12 and Vista Beta 2
Date:
02/05/2007 15:51:01
Has
anyone seen a fix yet??? I'm using Vista Enterprise RTM and it still will
not
recognize my device.
"joepaone"
wrote:
>
Does anybody know if they fixed it yet. I've been having the same problem
and
>
you are right. I have waited for a month and I am ready to go back to XP -
I
>
did not think I would ever say that!
>
>
Sometimes my PDA connects and then in a few seconds the partnership ends!
Is
>
this fixed in the RTM - I can not seem to get a clear answer on that from
the
>
Windows Mobility site either!!
>
>
I remember that XP Service Pack 2 had the sme type of problem and was not
>
really fixed until a month after all the humdrum settled down!
>
>
--
>
Have a Great Microsoft Day
>
>
Sincerely,
>
>
Joe Paone
>
joepaone@msn.com
>
cell: 843-267-3998
>
>
>
"jknixon" wrote:
>
>
> That's great for synchronizing stuff our kids might use--pictures and
>
> movies--but how about the applications your real purchasers really
need in
>
> order to make the money to buy your software, i.e., our outlook
calendars,
>
> contacts, e-mail, etc.? By delaying the synch update you
are alienating
>
> your early adopters. These are the very folks who would
otherwise be giving
>
> glowing recomendations to others about Vista, i.e., your
best word of mouth
>
> advertisers. Not a smart marketing move from world's best
marketing company
>
> (and occaisionally software company), Microsoft. Get a
move on, Uncle Bill !
>
>
>
> "Chris S" wrote:
>
>
>
> > New information from MS:
>
> >
>
> > Windows Vista Beta 2 features built-in support for Windows
Mobile-powered
>
> > devices for the very first time with the new Windows Mobile Device Center.
>
> > Instead of installing ActiveSync to use our devices, our device
drivers are
>
> > now part of Windows Vista. Due to this built-in functionality,
installation
>
> > of ActiveSync is blocked.
>
> >
>
> > Windows Mobile Device Center can perform
"Guest" functionality similar to
>
> > ActiveSync, but with some new and exciting features. With
Windows Mobile
>
> > Device Center, you will
be able to browse your device, synchronize media
>
> > using Windows Media Player, and even play media files and view
pictures and
>
> > documents directly from the device. Our devices will be
able to connect with
>
> > Windows Vista via Bluetooth, USB or infrared.
>
> >
>
> > An update to the Windows Mobile Device Center will be
available shortly on
>
> > Windows Update. With this update, you will be able to
create partnerships
>
> > and synchronize your Windows Mobile-powered device with
Outlook. Stay tuned!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > AMD-FX-60
>
> > 2gb OCZ Plat. memory
>
> > ATI 1800 AIW
>
> > 2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
>
> > 2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
>
> > Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
>
> > Senior Member Overclockers.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > "Wolfgang" wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > How can i sync my Outlook with Mobile 5 (Qtec
9100).
>
> > > I work with Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2
>
> > >
>
> > > The Connection with Mobile Device Center works,
access from Vista to files
>
> > > on mobile device works. But i didnīt found an opportunity to
sync Outlook
>
> > > data like Calendar, Contacts....
>
> > >
>
> > > thx for information
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From: joepaone <joepaone@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Sync Mobile 5 with Outlook 12 and Vista Beta 2
Date:
02/06/2007 00:03:01
You
can not sych with Outlook Beta 12 until you buy it. The update for Vista
will
only appear on the Production version if it is available yet. If Vists
does
work, then you must purchase Outlook 12 - synch will not work with the
Beta.
That I know for sure!!!!
--
Have
a Great Microsoft Day
Sincerely,
Joe
Paone
joepaone@msn.com
cell:
843-267-3998
"E-Coder"
wrote:
>
Has anyone seen a fix yet??? I'm using Vista Enterprise RTM and it still
will
>
not recognize my device.
>
>
"joepaone" wrote:
>
>
> Does anybody know if they fixed it yet. I've been having the same
problem and
>
> you are right. I have waited for a month and I am ready to go back to
XP - I
>
> did not think I would ever say that!
>
>
>
> Sometimes my PDA connects and then in a few seconds the partnership
ends! Is
>
> this fixed in the RTM - I can not seem to get a clear answer on that
from the
>
> Windows Mobility site either!!
>
>
>
> I remember that XP Service Pack 2 had the sme type of problem and was
not
>
> really fixed until a month after all the humdrum settled down!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Have a Great Microsoft Day
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Joe Paone
>
> joepaone@msn.com
>
> cell: 843-267-3998
>
>
>
>
>
> "jknixon" wrote:
>
>
>
> > That's great for synchronizing stuff our kids might use--pictures
and
>
> > movies--but how about the applications your real purchasers
really need in
>
> > order to make the money to buy your software, i.e., our outlook
calendars,
>
> > contacts, e-mail, etc.? By delaying the synch update
you are alienating
>
> > your early adopters. These are the very folks who would
otherwise be giving
>
> > glowing recomendations to others about Vista, i.e., your
best word of mouth
>
> > advertisers. Not a smart marketing move from world's best
marketing company
>
> > (and occaisionally software company), Microsoft. Get
a move on, Uncle Bill !
>
> >
>
> > "Chris S" wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > New information from MS:
>
> > >
>
> > > Windows Vista Beta 2 features built-in support for Windows
Mobile-powered
>
> > > devices for the very first time with the new Windows Mobile Device Center.
>
> > > Instead of installing ActiveSync to use our devices, our
device drivers are
>
> > > now part of Windows Vista. Due to this built-in
functionality, installation
>
> > > of ActiveSync is blocked.
>
> > >
>
> > > Windows Mobile Device Center can perform
"Guest" functionality similar to
>
> > > ActiveSync, but with some new and exciting features.
With Windows Mobile
>
> > > Device Center, you will
be able to browse your device, synchronize media
>
> > > using Windows Media Player, and even play media files and
view pictures and
>
> > > documents directly from the device. Our devices will
be able to connect with
>
> > > Windows Vista via Bluetooth, USB or infrared.
>
> > >
>
> > > An update to the Windows Mobile Device Center will be
available shortly on
>
> > > Windows Update. With this update, you will be able to
create partnerships
>
> > > and synchronize your Windows Mobile-powered device with
Outlook. Stay tuned!
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > --
>
> > > AMD-FX-60
>
> > > 2gb OCZ Plat. memory
>
> > > ATI 1800 AIW
>
> > > 2x74gb Raptors in RAID-0
>
> > > 2x400gb WD HDD in RAID-1
>
> > > Epox Nvidia-4 Ultra M/B
>
> > > Senior Member Overclockers.com
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > "Wolfgang" wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > How can i sync my Outlook with Mobile 5 (Qtec
9100).
>
> > > > I work with Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2
>
> > > >
>
> > > > The Connection with Mobile Device Center works,
access from Vista to files
>
> > > > on mobile device works. But i didnīt found an
opportunity to sync Outlook
>
> > > > data like Calendar, Contacts....
>
> > > >
>
> > > > thx for information
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