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Re: BIOS password

Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Re: Administrator account problems

Re: Administrator account

Re: Administrative password

Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

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From: Ph1loSophy <Ph1loSophy@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: BIOS password

Date: 09/17/2007 13:40:04

 

 

When your computer boots up, there should flash a message that tells you what

key to press to enter the BIOS setup. It might be the F2 or F12 key for

example. Once you press it, WHILE the bios is still loading and BEFORE you

get to any window's looking screens, it will take you to the BIOS setup for

that computer. BE VERY CAREFUL to not make any changes unless you really

know what you are doing. You will usually have to press the escape key to

exit and SAVE after you blank out the option to have a BIOS password.

 

Next question, if this is a laptop, why would you NOT want a bios level

password? I have one, a windows password, and lojack for laptops on mine

--- but I am in healthcare and security is highly emphasized in my world.

 

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

 

> Hello wynnr8,

>

> Disable the password in the BIOS or set it to blank password.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

> no rights.

>

> > I know how to set the password up. But how can I get rid of this

> > feature, so that window just starts and goes to the user sign on

> > screen?

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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From: brink <brink.2xjw61@no-mx.forums.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Date: 09/26/2007 22:54:26

 

 

Mike.ONeal;464448 Wrote:

> I did a bad thing by removing all the users on the machine from the

> administrators group. In addition, by default the built-in

> administrator is

> disabled.

>

> I was trying to setup a specific user as an admin and the others as

> standard

> users, so I created the user "_____admin" and the other user "_____".

> Thought I placed the admin user in the admin group and then removed the

> standard user from the administrators group. It went wrong and now I

> have

> nobody in the administrators group.

>

> Is there anyone that could help me out of this jam?

>

>

>

> --

> Mike O.

 

Hi Mike,

 

You might try doing a Repair Install. This will allow you to repair

your Vista installation without loosing your files, settings, and

programs.

 

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

 

Shawn

 

 

--

brink

 

*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*

WWW.VISTAX64.COM (\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")

*Please post feedback to help others.*

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Date: 09/26/2007 23:18:22

 

 

Mike

 

You should be able to boot into Safe Mode and the Built-In Administrator

account will appear on the login screen. It is hidden in normal mode, but is

designed to appear in safe mode if there are no other administrator accounts

on the system. This is a built-in safety net in case this situation does

arise. There is no password associated with this account, unless you have

added one.

 

 

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

news:68410AA2-6426-4FCC-A2A2-110F1E50651F@microsoft.com...

>I did a bad thing by removing all the users on the machine from the

> administrators group. In addition, by default the built-in administrator

> is

> disabled.

>

> I was trying to setup a specific user as an admin and the others as

> standard

> users, so I created the user "_____admin" and the other user "_____".

> Thought I placed the admin user in the admin group and then removed the

> standard user from the administrators group. It went wrong and now I have

> nobody in the administrators group.

>

> Is there anyone that could help me out of this jam?

>

>

>

> --

> Mike O.

 

 

 

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From: Mike.ONeal <MikeONeal@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Date: 09/27/2007 06:50:03

 

 

Ronnie,

 

This worked. This solution was quick and efficient. Thank you very much.

 

If I may add, the more I use Vista and find out about it's hidden treasures,

the more I like it.

--

Mike O.

 

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> Mike

>

> You should be able to boot into Safe Mode and the Built-In Administrator

> account will appear on the login screen. It is hidden in normal mode, but is

> designed to appear in safe mode if there are no other administrator accounts

> on the system. This is a built-in safety net in case this situation does

> arise. There is no password associated with this account, unless you have

> added one.

>

>

>

> --

>

> Ronnie Vernon

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Shell/User

>

>

> "Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

> news:68410AA2-6426-4FCC-A2A2-110F1E50651F@microsoft.com...

> >I did a bad thing by removing all the users on the machine from the

> > administrators group. In addition, by default the built-in administrator

> > is

> > disabled.

> >

> > I was trying to setup a specific user as an admin and the others as

> > standard

> > users, so I created the user "_____admin" and the other user "_____".

> > Thought I placed the admin user in the admin group and then removed the

> > standard user from the administrators group. It went wrong and now I have

> > nobody in the administrators group.

> >

> > Is there anyone that could help me out of this jam?

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Mike O.

>

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Date: 09/27/2007 15:38:33

 

 

Mike

 

Glad to hear this. Thanks for letting me know. :)

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

news:A08A3CC3-CDDA-41A6-AE87-26FC4C100750@microsoft.com...

> Ronnie,

>

> This worked. This solution was quick and efficient. Thank you very much.

>

> If I may add, the more I use Vista and find out about it's hidden

> treasures,

> the more I like it.

> --

> Mike O.

>

>

> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>

>> Mike

>>

>> You should be able to boot into Safe Mode and the Built-In Administrator

>> account will appear on the login screen. It is hidden in normal mode, but

>> is

>> designed to appear in safe mode if there are no other administrator

>> accounts

>> on the system. This is a built-in safety net in case this situation does

>> arise. There is no password associated with this account, unless you have

>> added one.

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> Ronnie Vernon

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Shell/User

>>

>>

>> "Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

>> news:68410AA2-6426-4FCC-A2A2-110F1E50651F@microsoft.com...

>> >I did a bad thing by removing all the users on the machine from the

>> > administrators group. In addition, by default the built-in

>> > administrator

>> > is

>> > disabled.

>> >

>> > I was trying to setup a specific user as an admin and the others as

>> > standard

>> > users, so I created the user "_____admin" and the other user "_____".

>> > Thought I placed the admin user in the admin group and then removed the

>> > standard user from the administrators group. It went wrong and now I

>> > have

>> > nobody in the administrators group.

>> >

>> > Is there anyone that could help me out of this jam?

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --

>> > Mike O.

>>

 

 

 

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From: Debrad <Debrad@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Date: 09/27/2007 23:32:01

 

 

I'm still having problems as I don't know what the admin password is. Have

spent several hours on this and the password is not coming to me! I have

other accounts on my machine that I can get into but none are administrators.

Can I make one of them an administrator somehow, or can I access the hidden

admin account without deleting the other users? I do have an encrypted list

for the passwords but how do I decrypt?

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> Mike

>

> Glad to hear this. Thanks for letting me know. :)

>

> --

>

> Ronnie Vernon

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Shell/User

>

>

> "Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

> news:A08A3CC3-CDDA-41A6-AE87-26FC4C100750@microsoft.com...

> > Ronnie,

> >

> > This worked. This solution was quick and efficient. Thank you very much.

> >

> > If I may add, the more I use Vista and find out about it's hidden

> > treasures,

> > the more I like it.

> > --

> > Mike O.

> >

> >

> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> >

> >> Mike

> >>

> >> You should be able to boot into Safe Mode and the Built-In Administrator

> >> account will appear on the login screen. It is hidden in normal mode, but

> >> is

> >> designed to appear in safe mode if there are no other administrator

> >> accounts

> >> on the system. This is a built-in safety net in case this situation does

> >> arise. There is no password associated with this account, unless you have

> >> added one.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Ronnie Vernon

> >> Microsoft MVP

> >> Windows Shell/User

> >>

> >>

> >> "Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

> >> news:68410AA2-6426-4FCC-A2A2-110F1E50651F@microsoft.com...

> >> >I did a bad thing by removing all the users on the machine from the

> >> > administrators group. In addition, by default the built-in

> >> > administrator

> >> > is

> >> > disabled.

> >> >

> >> > I was trying to setup a specific user as an admin and the others as

> >> > standard

> >> > users, so I created the user "_____admin" and the other user "_____".

> >> > Thought I placed the admin user in the admin group and then removed the

> >> > standard user from the administrators group. It went wrong and now I

> >> > have

> >> > nobody in the administrators group.

> >> >

> >> > Is there anyone that could help me out of this jam?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Mike O.

> >>

>

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: big problem, deleted administrators

Date: 09/30/2007 14:51:26

 

 

Debrad

 

If you have forgotten the password for the only administrator account on the

computer, you do not have a lot of options to recover. You cannot do

anything that requires administrator privileges unless you know that

password. This includes enabling the built-in administrator account. You

cannot even access the built-in administrator account in Safe Mode.

 

The recovery options you do have is:

 

1. If you have an upgrade or full Vista installation disk, there is a

procedure available that will allow to enable the built-in administrator

account which you could use to change the password for the other

administrator account. (This does not include a recovery disk that is

supplied with a new computer)

 

See option 2 at the following website.

What do I do: I can no longer log in or elevate to an administrator account:

http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administration/locked_out_of_admin.aspx

 

 

2. You can purchase a preogram that can reset the password on your

administrator account.

 

Here is the program I recommend.

 

A@PC: Windows Password Recovery Software. Reset Administrator Password. XP

VISTA 2003 2000 NT.:

http://www.password-changer.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"Debrad" wrote in message

news:E27E5FDB-7FB4-4ED7-8CE7-CBC571DCBEEA@microsoft.com...

> I'm still having problems as I don't know what the admin password is.

> Have

> spent several hours on this and the password is not coming to me! I have

> other accounts on my machine that I can get into but none are

> administrators.

> Can I make one of them an administrator somehow, or can I access the

> hidden

> admin account without deleting the other users? I do have an encrypted

> list

> for the passwords but how do I decrypt?

>

> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>

>> Mike

>>

>> Glad to hear this. Thanks for letting me know. :)

>>

>> --

>>

>> Ronnie Vernon

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Shell/User

>>

>>

>> "Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

>> news:A08A3CC3-CDDA-41A6-AE87-26FC4C100750@microsoft.com...

>> > Ronnie,

>> >

>> > This worked. This solution was quick and efficient. Thank you very

>> > much.

>> >

>> > If I may add, the more I use Vista and find out about it's hidden

>> > treasures,

>> > the more I like it.

>> > --

>> > Mike O.

>> >

>> >

>> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Mike

>> >>

>> >> You should be able to boot into Safe Mode and the Built-In

>> >> Administrator

>> >> account will appear on the login screen. It is hidden in normal mode,

>> >> but

>> >> is

>> >> designed to appear in safe mode if there are no other administrator

>> >> accounts

>> >> on the system. This is a built-in safety net in case this situation

>> >> does

>> >> arise. There is no password associated with this account, unless you

>> >> have

>> >> added one.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >> Ronnie Vernon

>> >> Microsoft MVP

>> >> Windows Shell/User

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Mike.ONeal" wrote in message

>> >> news:68410AA2-6426-4FCC-A2A2-110F1E50651F@microsoft.com...

>> >> >I did a bad thing by removing all the users on the machine from the

>> >> > administrators group. In addition, by default the built-in

>> >> > administrator

>> >> > is

>> >> > disabled.

>> >> >

>> >> > I was trying to setup a specific user as an admin and the others as

>> >> > standard

>> >> > users, so I created the user "_____admin" and the other user

>> >> > "_____".

>> >> > Thought I placed the admin user in the admin group and then removed

>> >> > the

>> >> > standard user from the administrators group. It went wrong and now

>> >> > I

>> >> > have

>> >> > nobody in the administrators group.

>> >> >

>> >> > Is there anyone that could help me out of this jam?

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > Mike O.

>> >>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Date: 09/27/2007 09:52:35

 

 

Santiago,

 

Vista no longer uses 'autoexec.bat', it will parse any entries in there to

set environment variables but that is all.

On a clean install of Vista there is a single dummy entry in this file.

 

This is also a system protected file, you should consider very carefully any

modifications to system protected files.

 

Perhaps if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish with the

autoexec.bat file someone could help you do the same thing using Vista's

normal procedures.

 

Michael

 

"Santiago" wrote in message

news:F460E28A-7676-46CF-9E56-FF05BA1D90CA@microsoft.com...

> Hi! I have a Windows Vista Business in my pc, I need to modify the

> autoexec.bat but it's read-only file.

>

> What can I do?

>

> Thanks!

 

 

 

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From: Santiago <Santiago@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Date: 09/27/2007 10:25:02

 

 

Michel

 

well, this is what I want to do:

 

I have a software, and I need to set environment variables for it. In XP I

made it in the autoexec.bat, but here in Vista I couldn't.

 

"Michael" wrote:

 

> Santiago,

>

> Vista no longer uses 'autoexec.bat', it will parse any entries in there to

> set environment variables but that is all.

> On a clean install of Vista there is a single dummy entry in this file.

>

> This is also a system protected file, you should consider very carefully any

> modifications to system protected files.

>

> Perhaps if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish with the

> autoexec.bat file someone could help you do the same thing using Vista's

> normal procedures.

>

> Michael

>

> "Santiago" wrote in message

> news:F460E28A-7676-46CF-9E56-FF05BA1D90CA@microsoft.com...

> > Hi! I have a Windows Vista Business in my pc, I need to modify the

> > autoexec.bat but it's read-only file.

> >

> > What can I do?

> >

> > Thanks!

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Date: 09/27/2007 11:27:54

 

 

Santiago,

 

Right click on computer, select properties

in the left pane select 'Advanced system settings'

advanced tab

environment variables button near bottom

add your environment variables. recommend you use the top section for your

account rther than the one for the whole system.

 

 

Michael

 

"Santiago" wrote in message

news:0DE2D6C7-0CC7-43D3-BB6A-5765478DE897@microsoft.com...

> Michel

>

> well, this is what I want to do:

>

> I have a software, and I need to set environment variables for it. In XP

> I

> made it in the autoexec.bat, but here in Vista I couldn't.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> Santiago,

>>

>> Vista no longer uses 'autoexec.bat', it will parse any entries in there

>> to

>> set environment variables but that is all.

>> On a clean install of Vista there is a single dummy entry in this file.

>>

>> This is also a system protected file, you should consider very carefully

>> any

>> modifications to system protected files.

>>

>> Perhaps if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish with the

>> autoexec.bat file someone could help you do the same thing using Vista's

>> normal procedures.

>>

>> Michael

>>

>> "Santiago" wrote in message

>> news:F460E28A-7676-46CF-9E56-FF05BA1D90CA@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi! I have a Windows Vista Business in my pc, I need to modify the

>> > autoexec.bat but it's read-only file.

>> >

>> > What can I do?

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Johan <johan@msn.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Date: 09/27/2007 11:35:05

 

 

I can modify AUTOEXEC.BAT and even CONFIG.SYS in my Vista Ultimate.

Maybe it is restricted in other version.

 

"Santiago" ??? news:0DE2D6C7-0CC7-43D3-BB6A-5765478DE897@microsoft.com ???...

> Michel

>

> well, this is what I want to do:

>

> I have a software, and I need to set environment variables for it. In XP I

> made it in the autoexec.bat, but here in Vista I couldn't.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> Santiago,

>>

>> Vista no longer uses 'autoexec.bat', it will parse any entries in there to

>> set environment variables but that is all.

>> On a clean install of Vista there is a single dummy entry in this file.

>>

>> This is also a system protected file, you should consider very carefully any

>> modifications to system protected files.

>>

>> Perhaps if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish with the

>> autoexec.bat file someone could help you do the same thing using Vista's

>> normal procedures.

>>

>> Michael

>>

>> "Santiago" wrote in message

>> news:F460E28A-7676-46CF-9E56-FF05BA1D90CA@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi! I have a Windows Vista Business in my pc, I need to modify the

>> > autoexec.bat but it's read-only file.

>> >

>> > What can I do?

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Date: 09/27/2007 12:00:30

 

 

Johan,

My system is home premium, it has full permissions for 'administrators'

group, read/execute only for 'users' group.

I haven't actualy tried to change it however. Also need to change the view

to show hidden stuff in order to see it.

(it is a protected operating system file).

 

Also as the OP has a business system there may be a Group Policy issue.

 

Michael

 

 

"Johan" wrote in message

news:ACD4E385-4C54-4296-8423-31802370B039@microsoft.com...

I can modify AUTOEXEC.BAT and even CONFIG.SYS in my Vista Ultimate.

Maybe it is restricted in other version.

 

"Santiago" ???

news:0DE2D6C7-0CC7-43D3-BB6A-5765478DE897@microsoft.com ???...

> Michel

>

> well, this is what I want to do:

>

> I have a software, and I need to set environment variables for it. In XP

> I

> made it in the autoexec.bat, but here in Vista I couldn't.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> Santiago,

>>

>> Vista no longer uses 'autoexec.bat', it will parse any entries in there

>> to

>> set environment variables but that is all.

>> On a clean install of Vista there is a single dummy entry in this file.

>>

>> This is also a system protected file, you should consider very carefully

>> any

>> modifications to system protected files.

>>

>> Perhaps if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish with the

>> autoexec.bat file someone could help you do the same thing using Vista's

>> normal procedures.

>>

>> Michael

>>

>> "Santiago" wrote in message

>> news:F460E28A-7676-46CF-9E56-FF05BA1D90CA@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi! I have a Windows Vista Business in my pc, I need to modify the

>> > autoexec.bat but it's read-only file.

>> >

>> > What can I do?

>> >

>> > Thanks!

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: jasoncollege24 <jasoncollege24@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: autoexec.bat Help!!!!

Date: 09/28/2007 12:52:02

 

 

I have Windows Vista Home Premium on my system. I can view, and modify these

files. It anything critical needs changing, UAC usually prompts me... as long

as I ok the permission it works with no problems.

 

If you have User Account Controls turned off, try turning this feature back

on. This may solve some of your "Access Denied" errors.

 

"Michael" wrote:

 

> Johan,

> My system is home premium, it has full permissions for 'administrators'

> group, read/execute only for 'users' group.

> I haven't actualy tried to change it however. Also need to change the view

> to show hidden stuff in order to see it.

> (it is a protected operating system file).

>

> Also as the OP has a business system there may be a Group Policy issue.

>

> Michael

>

>

> "Johan" wrote in message

> news:ACD4E385-4C54-4296-8423-31802370B039@microsoft.com...

> I can modify AUTOEXEC.BAT and even CONFIG.SYS in my Vista Ultimate.

> Maybe it is restricted in other version.

>

> "Santiago" ???

> news:0DE2D6C7-0CC7-43D3-BB6A-5765478DE897@microsoft.com ???...

> > Michel

> >

> > well, this is what I want to do:

> >

> > I have a software, and I need to set environment variables for it. In XP

> > I

> > made it in the autoexec.bat, but here in Vista I couldn't.

> >

> > "Michael" wrote:

> >

> >> Santiago,

> >>

> >> Vista no longer uses 'autoexec.bat', it will parse any entries in there

> >> to

> >> set environment variables but that is all.

> >> On a clean install of Vista there is a single dummy entry in this file.

> >>

> >> This is also a system protected file, you should consider very carefully

> >> any

> >> modifications to system protected files.

> >>

> >> Perhaps if you could explain what you are trying to accomplish with the

> >> autoexec.bat file someone could help you do the same thing using Vista's

> >> normal procedures.

> >>

> >> Michael

> >>

> >> "Santiago" wrote in message

> >> news:F460E28A-7676-46CF-9E56-FF05BA1D90CA@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi! I have a Windows Vista Business in my pc, I need to modify the

> >> > autoexec.bat but it's read-only file.

> >> >

> >> > What can I do?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks!

> >>

> >>

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/23/2007 23:23:00

 

 

Joe,

 

I am confused (fairly normal state).

 

If it booted into the built in administrator account that should only have

happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition to the

built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

 

So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password during

the installation?

 

Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have thought

that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not use

that.

 

Michael

Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

 

"JoeB" wrote in message

news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

> Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home premium,

> its

> an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I did a

> clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin account

> that

> is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and did the

> "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the message

> "Your account has been disabled, please contact your administrator" So I

> enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the admin

> account,

> doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do not

> match.

> "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite the

> same"

> Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the errors

> on

> bootup?

>

> Thank you much

>

> Joe

 

 

 

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From: JoeB <JoeB@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/24/2007 08:22:01

 

 

I am sorry I should have been more clear. Yes I did create a administrator

account while Vista was installing. so there are 2 admin accounts, My account

Named "Joe" that is an admin account and the built in Administrator account.

I know it is supposed to disable the built in account and thus my confusion

as well.

My acct "Joe" is how I was able to enable and disable the built in acct

running the cmd.exe as an admin.

I know that I can run the netplwiz and just have the "Joe" acct log right

into windows but I want to get to the bottom of this problem and learn

something in the process as well.

 

Thanks for the reply Michael.

 

"Michael" wrote:

 

> Joe,

>

> I am confused (fairly normal state).

>

> If it booted into the built in administrator account that should only have

> happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

> The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition to the

> built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

>

> So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password during

> the installation?

>

> Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

> rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have thought

> that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not use

> that.

>

> Michael

> Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

>

> "JoeB" wrote in message

> news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

> > Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home premium,

> > its

> > an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I did a

> > clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin account

> > that

> > is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and did the

> > "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the message

> > "Your account has been disabled, please contact your administrator" So I

> > enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the admin

> > account,

> > doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do not

> > match.

> > "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite the

> > same"

> > Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the errors

> > on

> > bootup?

> >

> > Thank you much

> >

> > Joe

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/24/2007 09:38:21

 

 

Follow up, did you have a password with the 'joe' account? That may be part

of the trigger disabling the built in account.

 

Item to check is the automatic logon setting.

 

the command is

 

control userpasswords2

 

You can check here that 'joe' is still an Administrator.

There is a check box for Users must enter a user name and password to use

this computer.

If not set then it will want an account and password to use for the login.

Perhaps somehow it is using the Administrator

account, the password it would be using would be what was in force at the

time that the automatic login was established. That would be before you

changed the password so that might be the cause of the password error on

startup.

 

I think that another consequence of changing the administrator password is

that any background processes started by the schedular on Administrators

behalf will also have the 'wrong' password. Not sure that 'Administrator' is

actual owner of any of the scheduled tasks however.

 

Michael

 

 

"JoeB" wrote in message

news:AD012D59-9A94-4D20-A742-F2A4BA5A5295@microsoft.com...

>I am sorry I should have been more clear. Yes I did create a administrator

> account while Vista was installing. so there are 2 admin accounts, My

> account

> Named "Joe" that is an admin account and the built in Administrator

> account.

> I know it is supposed to disable the built in account and thus my

> confusion

> as well.

> My acct "Joe" is how I was able to enable and disable the built in acct

> running the cmd.exe as an admin.

> I know that I can run the netplwiz and just have the "Joe" acct log right

> into windows but I want to get to the bottom of this problem and learn

> something in the process as well.

>

> Thanks for the reply Michael.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> Joe,

>>

>> I am confused (fairly normal state).

>>

>> If it booted into the built in administrator account that should only

>> have

>> happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

>> The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition to

>> the

>> built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

>>

>> So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password

>> during

>> the installation?

>>

>> Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

>> rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have

>> thought

>> that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not use

>> that.

>>

>> Michael

>> Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

>>

>> "JoeB" wrote in message

>> news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home

>> > premium,

>> > its

>> > an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I did

>> > a

>> > clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin account

>> > that

>> > is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and did

>> > the

>> > "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the

>> > message

>> > "Your account has been disabled, please contact your administrator" So

>> > I

>> > enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the admin

>> > account,

>> > doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do not

>> > match.

>> > "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite the

>> > same"

>> > Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the

>> > errors

>> > on

>> > bootup?

>> >

>> > Thank you much

>> >

>> > Joe

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/24/2007 09:43:37

 

 

Joe,

 

Whoops

I note that the

control userpasswrds2

and

netplwiz are the same thing

 

Michael

 

 

"JoeB" wrote in message

news:AD012D59-9A94-4D20-A742-F2A4BA5A5295@microsoft.com...

>I am sorry I should have been more clear. Yes I did create a administrator

> account while Vista was installing. so there are 2 admin accounts, My

> account

> Named "Joe" that is an admin account and the built in Administrator

> account.

> I know it is supposed to disable the built in account and thus my

> confusion

> as well.

> My acct "Joe" is how I was able to enable and disable the built in acct

> running the cmd.exe as an admin.

> I know that I can run the netplwiz and just have the "Joe" acct log right

> into windows but I want to get to the bottom of this problem and learn

> something in the process as well.

>

> Thanks for the reply Michael.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> Joe,

>>

>> I am confused (fairly normal state).

>>

>> If it booted into the built in administrator account that should only

>> have

>> happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

>> The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition to

>> the

>> built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

>>

>> So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password

>> during

>> the installation?

>>

>> Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

>> rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have

>> thought

>> that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not use

>> that.

>>

>> Michael

>> Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

>>

>> "JoeB" wrote in message

>> news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home

>> > premium,

>> > its

>> > an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I did

>> > a

>> > clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin account

>> > that

>> > is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and did

>> > the

>> > "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the

>> > message

>> > "Your account has been disabled, please contact your administrator" So

>> > I

>> > enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the admin

>> > account,

>> > doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do not

>> > match.

>> > "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite the

>> > same"

>> > Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the

>> > errors

>> > on

>> > bootup?

>> >

>> > Thank you much

>> >

>> > Joe

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: JoeB <JoeB@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/24/2007 10:32:05

 

 

Yes I did create a password for my account "Joe" at the time the account was

created.

So I guess the best thing to do then would be use the netplwiz and enable

booting right into the Joe account and then disable the admin account

altogether?

 

This should work, I am at this point I guess fishing for a reason why Vista

would do this or what would cause this. You never know when I may run into

this again...

 

I will try doing this and reply back with the results.. : )

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply Michael, I appreciate it.

 

 

 

 

"Michael" wrote:

 

> Joe,

>

> Whoops

> I note that the

> control userpasswrds2

> and

> netplwiz are the same thing

>

> Michael

>

>

> "JoeB" wrote in message

> news:AD012D59-9A94-4D20-A742-F2A4BA5A5295@microsoft.com...

> >I am sorry I should have been more clear. Yes I did create a administrator

> > account while Vista was installing. so there are 2 admin accounts, My

> > account

> > Named "Joe" that is an admin account and the built in Administrator

> > account.

> > I know it is supposed to disable the built in account and thus my

> > confusion

> > as well.

> > My acct "Joe" is how I was able to enable and disable the built in acct

> > running the cmd.exe as an admin.

> > I know that I can run the netplwiz and just have the "Joe" acct log right

> > into windows but I want to get to the bottom of this problem and learn

> > something in the process as well.

> >

> > Thanks for the reply Michael.

> >

> > "Michael" wrote:

> >

> >> Joe,

> >>

> >> I am confused (fairly normal state).

> >>

> >> If it booted into the built in administrator account that should only

> >> have

> >> happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

> >> The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition to

> >> the

> >> built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

> >>

> >> So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password

> >> during

> >> the installation?

> >>

> >> Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

> >> rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have

> >> thought

> >> that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not use

> >> that.

> >>

> >> Michael

> >> Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

> >>

> >> "JoeB" wrote in message

> >> news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home

> >> > premium,

> >> > its

> >> > an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I did

> >> > a

> >> > clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin account

> >> > that

> >> > is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and did

> >> > the

> >> > "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the

> >> > message

> >> > "Your account has been disabled, please contact your administrator" So

> >> > I

> >> > enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the admin

> >> > account,

> >> > doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do not

> >> > match.

> >> > "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite the

> >> > same"

> >> > Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the

> >> > errors

> >> > on

> >> > bootup?

> >> >

> >> > Thank you much

> >> >

> >> > Joe

> >>

> >>

>

>

 

 

 

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From: JoeB <JoeB@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/24/2007 10:48:03

 

 

Ok I disabled the built in account and for kicks I rebooted and got the "your

account has been disabled, please contact your systems administrator" which I

figured would be the case. That is what really confuses me is why would vista

report that for an account that should be disable by default? After reboot I

ran the netplwiz and this time it worked.... my system boots to the log on

screen and no errors. I just pop in my password and log in. YAY!

 

 

Thanks again Michael!!

 

"JoeB" wrote:

 

> Yes I did create a password for my account "Joe" at the time the account was

> created.

> So I guess the best thing to do then would be use the netplwiz and enable

> booting right into the Joe account and then disable the admin account

> altogether?

>

> This should work, I am at this point I guess fishing for a reason why Vista

> would do this or what would cause this. You never know when I may run into

> this again...

>

> I will try doing this and reply back with the results.. : )

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply Michael, I appreciate it.

>

>

>

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

> > Joe,

> >

> > Whoops

> > I note that the

> > control userpasswrds2

> > and

> > netplwiz are the same thing

> >

> > Michael

> >

> >

> > "JoeB" wrote in message

> > news:AD012D59-9A94-4D20-A742-F2A4BA5A5295@microsoft.com...

> > >I am sorry I should have been more clear. Yes I did create a administrator

> > > account while Vista was installing. so there are 2 admin accounts, My

> > > account

> > > Named "Joe" that is an admin account and the built in Administrator

> > > account.

> > > I know it is supposed to disable the built in account and thus my

> > > confusion

> > > as well.

> > > My acct "Joe" is how I was able to enable and disable the built in acct

> > > running the cmd.exe as an admin.

> > > I know that I can run the netplwiz and just have the "Joe" acct log right

> > > into windows but I want to get to the bottom of this problem and learn

> > > something in the process as well.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply Michael.

> > >

> > > "Michael" wrote:

> > >

> > >> Joe,

> > >>

> > >> I am confused (fairly normal state).

> > >>

> > >> If it booted into the built in administrator account that should only

> > >> have

> > >> happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

> > >> The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition to

> > >> the

> > >> built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

> > >>

> > >> So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password

> > >> during

> > >> the installation?

> > >>

> > >> Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

> > >> rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have

> > >> thought

> > >> that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not use

> > >> that.

> > >>

> > >> Michael

> > >> Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

> > >>

> > >> "JoeB" wrote in message

> > >> news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

> > >> > Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home

> > >> > premium,

> > >> > its

> > >> > an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I did

> > >> > a

> > >> > clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin account

> > >> > that

> > >> > is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and did

> > >> > the

> > >> > "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the

> > >> > message

> > >> > "Your account has been disabled, please contact your administrator" So

> > >> > I

> > >> > enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the admin

> > >> > account,

> > >> > doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do not

> > >> > match.

> > >> > "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite the

> > >> > same"

> > >> > Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the

> > >> > errors

> > >> > on

> > >> > bootup?

> > >> >

> > >> > Thank you much

> > >> >

> > >> > Joe

> > >>

> > >>

> >

> >

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account problems

Date: 09/24/2007 11:09:18

 

 

Its all magic!

 

Glad you got things straightened out.

 

Michael

 

"JoeB" wrote in message

news:220B3663-2789-4235-AE18-ED3A7FF8BD79@microsoft.com...

> Ok I disabled the built in account and for kicks I rebooted and got the

> "your

> account has been disabled, please contact your systems administrator"

> which I

> figured would be the case. That is what really confuses me is why would

> vista

> report that for an account that should be disable by default? After reboot

> I

> ran the netplwiz and this time it worked.... my system boots to the log on

> screen and no errors. I just pop in my password and log in. YAY!

>

>

> Thanks again Michael!!

>

> "JoeB" wrote:

>

>> Yes I did create a password for my account "Joe" at the time the account

>> was

>> created.

>> So I guess the best thing to do then would be use the netplwiz and enable

>> booting right into the Joe account and then disable the admin account

>> altogether?

>>

>> This should work, I am at this point I guess fishing for a reason why

>> Vista

>> would do this or what would cause this. You never know when I may run

>> into

>> this again...

>>

>> I will try doing this and reply back with the results.. : )

>>

>> Thanks for taking the time to reply Michael, I appreciate it.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Michael" wrote:

>>

>> > Joe,

>> >

>> > Whoops

>> > I note that the

>> > control userpasswrds2

>> > and

>> > netplwiz are the same thing

>> >

>> > Michael

>> >

>> >

>> > "JoeB" wrote in message

>> > news:AD012D59-9A94-4D20-A742-F2A4BA5A5295@microsoft.com...

>> > >I am sorry I should have been more clear. Yes I did create a

>> > >administrator

>> > > account while Vista was installing. so there are 2 admin accounts, My

>> > > account

>> > > Named "Joe" that is an admin account and the built in Administrator

>> > > account.

>> > > I know it is supposed to disable the built in account and thus my

>> > > confusion

>> > > as well.

>> > > My acct "Joe" is how I was able to enable and disable the built in

>> > > acct

>> > > running the cmd.exe as an admin.

>> > > I know that I can run the netplwiz and just have the "Joe" acct log

>> > > right

>> > > into windows but I want to get to the bottom of this problem and

>> > > learn

>> > > something in the process as well.

>> > >

>> > > Thanks for the reply Michael.

>> > >

>> > > "Michael" wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> Joe,

>> > >>

>> > >> I am confused (fairly normal state).

>> > >>

>> > >> If it booted into the built in administrator account that should

>> > >> only

>> > >> have

>> > >> happened if you did not creat any 'your name' administrator account.

>> > >> The presence of any administrator account on the system in addition

>> > >> to

>> > >> the

>> > >> built in one is supposed to disable the built in account.

>> > >>

>> > >> So the question is did you successfully create an account/ password

>> > >> during

>> > >> the installation?

>> > >>

>> > >> Also after you did the net user administrator /active:no command and

>> > >> rebooted what account did you use to enable it again? I would have

>> > >> thought

>> > >> that the built in account would have been disabled so you could not

>> > >> use

>> > >> that.

>> > >>

>> > >> Michael

>> > >> Vista Home Premium OEM Dell

>> > >>

>> > >> "JoeB" wrote in message

>> > >> news:E8ADEA45-BA67-43DC-A01B-E46D9C47AB93@microsoft.com...

>> > >> > Hi thanks for any help you may be able to give. I own Vista home

>> > >> > premium,

>> > >> > its

>> > >> > an oem copy and today for the first time I decided to reinstall. I

>> > >> > did

>> > >> > a

>> > >> > clean install and the system boots right into the hidded admin

>> > >> > account

>> > >> > that

>> > >> > is normally disabled by default. So I went to a command prompt and

>> > >> > did

>> > >> > the

>> > >> > "net user administrator /active:no" command. Upon reboot i get the

>> > >> > message

>> > >> > "Your account has been disabled, please contact your

>> > >> > administrator" So

>> > >> > I

>> > >> > enabled it again and figured I would just password protect the

>> > >> > admin

>> > >> > account,

>> > >> > doing so gets me the error on bootup. account name and password do

>> > >> > not

>> > >> > match.

>> > >> > "its late, it was close to that but may not have been worded quite

>> > >> > the

>> > >> > same"

>> > >> > Can anyone help me just disable the admin account and not have the

>> > >> > errors

>> > >> > on

>> > >> > bootup?

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Thank you much

>> > >> >

>> > >> > Joe

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> >

>> >

 

 

 

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From: Sharon F <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account

Date: 09/19/2007 09:01:56

 

 

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:49:08 -0600, Dale Peart wrote:

 

> I'm using Vista Home Premium. I initially gave myself Admin privileges but

> don't want to run that way normally. Is there a "Administrator" account

> hidden or do I manually have to set that one up myself?

 

There is a hidden administrator account but may as well create an

"everyday" administrator account. There will be times you will use it and

you will still have that hidden "super" admin account available in a pinch.

You can easily log on to the newly created administrator account whenever

necessary -or- (while logged on with your standard account) supply the

credentials for that new administrative account in response to UAC prompts.

 

One way to set this up:

Log on to your current account. Create a new administrator account and give

it a password. Log off from your current account. Log on to the new

account. Change the status of the old account to "standard." Log off of the

new administrator account and back into your "old" account. All of your

data will still be accessible and your personal preference settings will be

exactly the same as before this account was changed to a standard user.

 

One thing to watch for: If you have already installed programs that were

not explicitly (and correctly) designed for Vista, you may see more UAC

prompts than before or the programs may not run as expected. If this

happens, check out the "program compatibility" tools. If the results are

not satisfactory, you can always change this account back to admin status

until software updates properly enable the programs that were giving you

trouble.

 

--

Sharon F

MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

 

 

 

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From: ScotWat <ScotWat@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: RE: Administrator account

Date: 09/19/2007 17:58:05

 

 

Dale;

There is no "hidden" admin account. The best way to do what you want is

creating an

Administrator/Administrative account that will give you full permission.

Give it a strong yet unforgettable password and then create another account

that you'll be using all the time with Admin/standard settings. So, the

answer to your last question is yes, you have to manually setup the accounts

yourself. :-)

 

ScotWat

 

 

"Dale Peart" wrote:

 

> I'm using Vista Home Premium. I initially gave myself Admin privileges but

> don't want to run that way normally. Is there a "Administrator" account

> hidden or do I manually have to set that one up myself?

>

 

 

 

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From: Sharon F <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account

Date: 09/20/2007 15:52:47

 

 

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:58:05 -0700, ScotWat wrote:

 

> Dale;

> There is no "hidden" admin account. The best way to do what you want is

> creating an

> Administrator/Administrative account that will give you full permission.

> Give it a strong yet unforgettable password and then create another account

> that you'll be using all the time with Admin/standard settings. So, the

> answer to your last question is yes, you have to manually setup the accounts

> yourself. :-)

>

> ScotWat

>

>

 

The hidden account does exist - the account named Administrator created by

Vista. It's disabled by default on a clean install. Enable the account and

it is active.

 

Administrative Tools> Computer Management> Local Users and Groups.

 

Even though it's there and available, I prefer leaving it as a reserve

account for troubleshooting.

 

--

Sharon F

MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

 

 

 

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From: Debrad <Debrad@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator account

Date: 09/28/2007 15:20:01

 

 

Sharon, how do you get into that 'hidden' admin account?

I don't have local users and groups under Computer Management.

Thanks . .

 

 

 

"Sharon F" wrote:

 

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:58:05 -0700, ScotWat wrote:

>

> > Dale;

> > There is no "hidden" admin account. The best way to do what you want is

> > creating an

> > Administrator/Administrative account that will give you full permission.

> > Give it a strong yet unforgettable password and then create another account

> > that you'll be using all the time with Admin/standard settings. So, the

> > answer to your last question is yes, you have to manually setup the accounts

> > yourself. :-)

> >

> > ScotWat

> >

> >

>

> The hidden account does exist - the account named Administrator created by

> Vista. It's disabled by default on a clean install. Enable the account and

> it is active.

>

> Administrative Tools> Computer Management> Local Users and Groups.

>

> Even though it's there and available, I prefer leaving it as a reserve

> account for troubleshooting.

>

> --

> Sharon F

> MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

>

 

 

 

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From: Kerry Brown <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 15:16:26

 

 

"Joyous" wrote in message

news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

> We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had logged in

> and

> they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

> administrators,

> without completely installing all the software. We would actually like to

> remove the store's name altogether. How?

 

What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a procedure to

restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no idea

what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any personal

data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in the

process of doing the restore.

 

--

Kerry Brown

Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

http://www.vistahelp.ca

 

 

 

 

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From: Joyous <Joyous@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 17:27:00

 

 

We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the factory

settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell me

where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from the

disks again?

 

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

 

> "Joyous" wrote in message

> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had logged in

> > and

> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

> > administrators,

> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually like to

> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

>

> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a procedure to

> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no idea

> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any personal

> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in the

> process of doing the restore.

>

> --

> Kerry Brown

> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Kerry Brown <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 19:23:42

 

 

With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up to

access the factory restore procedure.

 

--

Kerry Brown

Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

http://www.vistahelp.ca

 

 

"Joyous" wrote in message

news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

> We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

> factory

> settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell me

> where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from the

> disks again?

>

> "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>

>> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

>> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had logged

>> > in

>> > and

>> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

>> > administrators,

>> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually like

>> > to

>> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

>>

>> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a procedure

>> to

>> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no idea

>> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

>> personal

>> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

>> the

>> process of doing the restore.

>>

>> --

>> Kerry Brown

>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Joyous <Joyous@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 21:01:01

 

 

OK, I did all this -- it wants the original administrator's password before

it will do anything. Gee whiz. I do not have the Restore Disk -- but I do

have disks for everything that was installed including the operating system.

EEEEEE GADS.

 

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

 

> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up to

> access the factory restore procedure.

>

> --

> Kerry Brown

> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>

>

> "Joyous" wrote in message

> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

> > factory

> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell me

> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from the

> > disks again?

> >

> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

> >

> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had logged

> >> > in

> >> > and

> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

> >> > administrators,

> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually like

> >> > to

> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

> >>

> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a procedure

> >> to

> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no idea

> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

> >> personal

> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

> >> the

> >> process of doing the restore.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Kerry Brown

> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

> >>

> >>

>

 

 

 

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From: Joyous <Joyous@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 21:29:01

 

 

I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I can

and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

forth.

 

Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you can

tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

 

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

 

> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up to

> access the factory restore procedure.

>

> --

> Kerry Brown

> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>

>

> "Joyous" wrote in message

> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

> > factory

> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell me

> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from the

> > disks again?

> >

> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

> >

> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had logged

> >> > in

> >> > and

> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

> >> > administrators,

> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually like

> >> > to

> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

> >>

> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a procedure

> >> to

> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no idea

> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

> >> personal

> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

> >> the

> >> process of doing the restore.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Kerry Brown

> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

> >>

> >>

>

 

 

 

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From: Kerry Brown <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 21:42:29

 

 

Call Dell tech support. They will walk you through the procedure.

 

--

Kerry Brown

Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

http://www.vistahelp.ca

 

 

"Joyous" wrote in message

news:49238989-D716-4CAB-ACE0-B2B0F89D9A28@microsoft.com...

>I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

> together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I

> can

> and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

> forth.

>

> Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you can

> tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

>

> "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>

>> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up

>> to

>> access the factory restore procedure.

>>

>> --

>> Kerry Brown

>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>>

>>

>> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

>> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

>> > factory

>> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell

>> > me

>> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from

>> > the

>> > disks again?

>> >

>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>> >

>> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

>> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had

>> >> > logged

>> >> > in

>> >> > and

>> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

>> >> > administrators,

>> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually

>> >> > like

>> >> > to

>> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

>> >>

>> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a

>> >> procedure

>> >> to

>> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no

>> >> idea

>> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

>> >> personal

>> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

>> >> the

>> >> process of doing the restore.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Kerry Brown

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>> >>

>> >>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 09/30/2007 21:52:41

 

 

From the manual that came with my Dell XPS410

 

......................

To Use PC Restore

1 Turn on the computer

During the boot process, a blue bar with www.dell.com appears at the top

of the screen

2 Immediately, upon seeing the blue bar, press

If you do not press in time, let the computer finish

starting, then restart the computer.

...............................

 

details:

press the Ctrl key down, hold it down, and also press the F11 key.

 

complications: if you have a fancy keyboard where the Fxx keys are also use

for other functions you may have to press some key on the keyboard to enable

the Fxx keys to register.

(Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard for instance, must press the F Lock key to

switch the row of keys to Fxx mode).

 

Instructions are in the manual under the chapter Troubleshooting Tools

 

Michael

 

"Joyous" wrote in message

news:49238989-D716-4CAB-ACE0-B2B0F89D9A28@microsoft.com...

>I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

> together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I

> can

> and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

> forth.

>

> Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you can

> tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

>

> "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>

>> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up

>> to

>> access the factory restore procedure.

>>

>> --

>> Kerry Brown

>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>>

>>

>> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

>> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

>> > factory

>> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell

>> > me

>> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from

>> > the

>> > disks again?

>> >

>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>> >

>> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

>> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had

>> >> > logged

>> >> > in

>> >> > and

>> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

>> >> > administrators,

>> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually

>> >> > like

>> >> > to

>> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

>> >>

>> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a

>> >> procedure

>> >> to

>> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no

>> >> idea

>> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

>> >> personal

>> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

>> >> the

>> >> process of doing the restore.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Kerry Brown

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>> >>

>> >>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Joyous <Joyous@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 10/01/2007 07:51:03

 

 

Yes I saw that in the manual -- I can't get it to work so far -- what I was

asking is do I hold those two keys down at the same time or do I press one

and then the other.

 

"Michael" wrote:

 

> From the manual that came with my Dell XPS410

>

> .......................

> To Use PC Restore

> 1 Turn on the computer

> During the boot process, a blue bar with www.dell.com appears at the top

> of the screen

> 2 Immediately, upon seeing the blue bar, press

> If you do not press in time, let the computer finish

> starting, then restart the computer.

> ................................

>

> details:

> press the Ctrl key down, hold it down, and also press the F11 key.

>

> complications: if you have a fancy keyboard where the Fxx keys are also use

> for other functions you may have to press some key on the keyboard to enable

> the Fxx keys to register.

> (Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard for instance, must press the F Lock key to

> switch the row of keys to Fxx mode).

>

> Instructions are in the manual under the chapter Troubleshooting Tools

>

> Michael

>

> "Joyous" wrote in message

> news:49238989-D716-4CAB-ACE0-B2B0F89D9A28@microsoft.com...

> >I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

> > together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I

> > can

> > and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

> > forth.

> >

> > Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you can

> > tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

> >

> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

> >

> >> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up

> >> to

> >> access the factory restore procedure.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Kerry Brown

> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

> >>

> >>

> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

> >> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

> >> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

> >> > factory

> >> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell

> >> > me

> >> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from

> >> > the

> >> > disks again?

> >> >

> >> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

> >> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had

> >> >> > logged

> >> >> > in

> >> >> > and

> >> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

> >> >> > administrators,

> >> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually

> >> >> > like

> >> >> > to

> >> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

> >> >>

> >> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a

> >> >> procedure

> >> >> to

> >> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no

> >> >> idea

> >> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

> >> >> personal

> >> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

> >> >> the

> >> >> process of doing the restore.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Kerry Brown

> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

>

>

 

 

 

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From: Kerry Brown <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 10/01/2007 09:01:08

 

 

You press them both at the same time.

 

Please don't take this the wrong way. It sounds like you don't have a lot of

experience with doing something like this. I highly recommend you phone Dell

technical support to have them help you with this.

 

--

Kerry Brown

Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

http://www.vistahelp.ca

 

 

"Joyous" wrote in message

news:10444025-BE80-451D-993A-96F6D34CE619@microsoft.com...

> Yes I saw that in the manual -- I can't get it to work so far -- what I

> was

> asking is do I hold those two keys down at the same time or do I press one

> and then the other.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> From the manual that came with my Dell XPS410

>>

>> .......................

>> To Use PC Restore

>> 1 Turn on the computer

>> During the boot process, a blue bar with www.dell.com appears at the

>> top

>> of the screen

>> 2 Immediately, upon seeing the blue bar, press

>> If you do not press in time, let the computer finish

>> starting, then restart the computer.

>> ................................

>>

>> details:

>> press the Ctrl key down, hold it down, and also press the F11 key.

>>

>> complications: if you have a fancy keyboard where the Fxx keys are also

>> use

>> for other functions you may have to press some key on the keyboard to

>> enable

>> the Fxx keys to register.

>> (Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard for instance, must press the F Lock key to

>> switch the row of keys to Fxx mode).

>>

>> Instructions are in the manual under the chapter Troubleshooting Tools

>>

>> Michael

>>

>> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> news:49238989-D716-4CAB-ACE0-B2B0F89D9A28@microsoft.com...

>> >I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

>> > together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I

>> > can

>> > and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

>> > forth.

>> >

>> > Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you

>> > can

>> > tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

>> >

>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>> >

>> >> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting

>> >> up

>> >> to

>> >> access the factory restore procedure.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Kerry Brown

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> >> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

>> >> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to

>> >> > the

>> >> > factory

>> >> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you

>> >> > tell

>> >> > me

>> >> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything

>> >> > from

>> >> > the

>> >> > disks again?

>> >> >

>> >> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> >> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had

>> >> >> > logged

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

>> >> >> > administrators,

>> >> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would

>> >> >> > actually

>> >> >> > like

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a

>> >> >> procedure

>> >> >> to

>> >> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no

>> >> >> idea

>> >> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

>> >> >> personal

>> >> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive

>> >> >> in

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> process of doing the restore.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Kerry Brown

>> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: Michael <mexxwalraven@verson.net>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 10/01/2007 09:54:08

 

 

Joyous,

 

Press the Ctrl key down, hold it down, immediately after pressing the Ctrl

key press the F11 key. Hold the Ctrl key and the F11 key down until the

system asks if you want to restore (or some such menu).

 

Michael

 

"Joyous" wrote in message

news:10444025-BE80-451D-993A-96F6D34CE619@microsoft.com...

> Yes I saw that in the manual -- I can't get it to work so far -- what I

> was

> asking is do I hold those two keys down at the same time or do I press one

> and then the other.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> From the manual that came with my Dell XPS410

>>

>> .......................

>> To Use PC Restore

>> 1 Turn on the computer

>> During the boot process, a blue bar with www.dell.com appears at the

>> top

>> of the screen

>> 2 Immediately, upon seeing the blue bar, press

>> If you do not press in time, let the computer finish

>> starting, then restart the computer.

>> ................................

>>

>> details:

>> press the Ctrl key down, hold it down, and also press the F11 key.

>>

>> complications: if you have a fancy keyboard where the Fxx keys are also

>> use

>> for other functions you may have to press some key on the keyboard to

>> enable

>> the Fxx keys to register.

>> (Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard for instance, must press the F Lock key to

>> switch the row of keys to Fxx mode).

>>

>> Instructions are in the manual under the chapter Troubleshooting Tools

>>

>> Michael

>>

>> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> news:49238989-D716-4CAB-ACE0-B2B0F89D9A28@microsoft.com...

>> >I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

>> > together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I

>> > can

>> > and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

>> > forth.

>> >

>> > Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you

>> > can

>> > tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

>> >

>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>> >

>> >> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting

>> >> up

>> >> to

>> >> access the factory restore procedure.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Kerry Brown

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> >> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

>> >> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to

>> >> > the

>> >> > factory

>> >> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you

>> >> > tell

>> >> > me

>> >> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything

>> >> > from

>> >> > the

>> >> > disks again?

>> >> >

>> >> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

>> >> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had

>> >> >> > logged

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

>> >> >> > administrators,

>> >> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would

>> >> >> > actually

>> >> >> > like

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a

>> >> >> procedure

>> >> >> to

>> >> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no

>> >> >> idea

>> >> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

>> >> >> personal

>> >> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive

>> >> >> in

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> process of doing the restore.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Kerry Brown

>> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

>> >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

 

 

 

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From: frankll <frankll@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrator

Date: 10/01/2007 14:26:01

 

 

I had the same problem today. I called the store and they gave me the PW.

Is this possible for you?

 

"Joyous" wrote:

 

> Yes I saw that in the manual -- I can't get it to work so far -- what I was

> asking is do I hold those two keys down at the same time or do I press one

> and then the other.

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

> > From the manual that came with my Dell XPS410

> >

> > .......................

> > To Use PC Restore

> > 1 Turn on the computer

> > During the boot process, a blue bar with www.dell.com appears at the top

> > of the screen

> > 2 Immediately, upon seeing the blue bar, press

> > If you do not press in time, let the computer finish

> > starting, then restart the computer.

> > ................................

> >

> > details:

> > press the Ctrl key down, hold it down, and also press the F11 key.

> >

> > complications: if you have a fancy keyboard where the Fxx keys are also use

> > for other functions you may have to press some key on the keyboard to enable

> > the Fxx keys to register.

> > (Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard for instance, must press the F Lock key to

> > switch the row of keys to Fxx mode).

> >

> > Instructions are in the manual under the chapter Troubleshooting Tools

> >

> > Michael

> >

> > "Joyous" wrote in message

> > news:49238989-D716-4CAB-ACE0-B2B0F89D9A28@microsoft.com...

> > >I can't get the screen with Ctrl+F11 -- am I supposed to hold them down

> > > together, click one after the other? I have tried it every which way I

> > > can

> > > and it doesn't work. I've tried just holding both down, going back and

> > > forth.

> > >

> > > Where can I obtain a recovery CD? Maybe I will just order one if you can

> > > tell me how to order one. Thank you again for your help

> > >

> > > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

> > >

> > >> With most new Dells you press Ctrl+F11 when the computer is starting up

> > >> to

> > >> access the factory restore procedure.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Kerry Brown

> > >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> > >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> "Joyous" wrote in message

> > >> news:219D6119-BD18-4795-AA09-6B737E58D791@microsoft.com...

> > >> > We just bought a DELL and I can't find the location to restore to the

> > >> > factory

> > >> > settings -- I looked where one would normally restores. Can you tell

> > >> > me

> > >> > where it might be. Would it be harmful to just reload everything from

> > >> > the

> > >> > disks again?

> > >> >

> > >> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> >> "Joyous" wrote in message

> > >> >> news:4ECF82AE-EBB4-4E11-8313-9C85A967D4C5@microsoft.com...

> > >> >> > We bought a computer that had been on display and the store had

> > >> >> > logged

> > >> >> > in

> > >> >> > and

> > >> >> > they are administrator. How can we make us (the new owners)

> > >> >> > administrators,

> > >> >> > without completely installing all the software. We would actually

> > >> >> > like

> > >> >> > to

> > >> >> > remove the store's name altogether. How?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> What brand is the computer? Most recognised brand names have a

> > >> >> procedure

> > >> >> to

> > >> >> restore the factory setup. I'd highly recommend this as you have no

> > >> >> idea

> > >> >> what was installed while it was on display. Be sure to backup any

> > >> >> personal

> > >> >> data on the computer. The factory restore will erase the hard drive in

> > >> >> the

> > >> >> process of doing the restore.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> --

> > >> >> Kerry Brown

> > >> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User

> > >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca

> > >> >>

> > >> >>

> > >>

> >

> >

 

 

 

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From: P. Di Stolfo <paolodistolfo@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: administrative password

Date: 09/27/2007 14:28:08

 

 

Hello,

 

try booting into Safe Mode (by pressing F8 before Windows starts). There,

you may be able to logon as "Administrator" without giving a password.

If the first doesn't help, try this:

http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/

 

Greetings,

P. Di Stolfo

--

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

// http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

"marta" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

news:2040B39A-58DC-4688-8021-3FE3D1AC5F3F@microsoft.com...

>I am a windows vista home user and I changed the administrative password. I

> did not fill up the password hint question. Today, when I try to log on

> the

> computer, my password is not accepted and when I try to restore it asks

> for a

> floppy or a flash drive. Please let me know how I can reset my password

> without having to reinstall vista.

>

> Thanks

>

 

 

 

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From: marta <marta@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: administrative password

Date: 09/28/2007 10:33:01

 

 

Hello Di Stolfo,

thank you for the post. I did try logging on safe mode but the user

"administrator" was not available. I tried to login using my user account

which I believe is the admin account, but was not successful.

 

I read the information on the link you sent me. Would I be able to download

the file to a CD and follow instructions to reset the password? I am not very

familiar with booting from CD. How can I do this?

 

Thanks

Marta

 

"P. Di Stolfo" wrote:

 

> Hello,

>

> try booting into Safe Mode (by pressing F8 before Windows starts). There,

> you may be able to logon as "Administrator" without giving a password.

> If the first doesn't help, try this:

> http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/

>

> Greetings,

> P. Di Stolfo

> --

> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> // http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language

> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> "marta" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

> news:2040B39A-58DC-4688-8021-3FE3D1AC5F3F@microsoft.com...

> >I am a windows vista home user and I changed the administrative password. I

> > did not fill up the password hint question. Today, when I try to log on

> > the

> > computer, my password is not accepted and when I try to restore it asks

> > for a

> > floppy or a flash drive. Please let me know how I can reset my password

> > without having to reinstall vista.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: administrative password

Date: 09/27/2007 15:57:36

 

 

Marta

 

It's asking for a floppy or flash drive because you should always follow the

instructions to create a Password Reset Disk when creating or changing a

password.

 

Your recovery options will depend on what type of Vista Installation Disk

you have.

 

Was Vista already pre-installed when you bought the computer?

If not, do you have a Vista upgrade or full installation disk?

 

Let us know.

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"marta" wrote in message

news:2040B39A-58DC-4688-8021-3FE3D1AC5F3F@microsoft.com...

>I am a windows vista home user and I changed the administrative password. I

> did not fill up the password hint question. Today, when I try to log on

> the

> computer, my password is not accepted and when I try to restore it asks

> for a

> floppy or a flash drive. Please let me know how I can reset my password

> without having to reinstall vista.

>

> Thanks

>

 

 

 

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From: marta <marta@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: administrative password

Date: 09/28/2007 10:30:02

 

 

Hello Ronnie,

thank you for the reply. I bought the system preinstalled with the OS. I do

not have a password recovery disk. I did try to log on in safe mode, but

could not log in. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Marta

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> Marta

>

> It's asking for a floppy or flash drive because you should always follow the

> instructions to create a Password Reset Disk when creating or changing a

> password.

>

> Your recovery options will depend on what type of Vista Installation Disk

> you have.

>

> Was Vista already pre-installed when you bought the computer?

> If not, do you have a Vista upgrade or full installation disk?

>

> Let us know.

>

> --

>

> Ronnie Vernon

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Shell/User

>

>

> "marta" wrote in message

> news:2040B39A-58DC-4688-8021-3FE3D1AC5F3F@microsoft.com...

> >I am a windows vista home user and I changed the administrative password. I

> > did not fill up the password hint question. Today, when I try to log on

> > the

> > computer, my password is not accepted and when I try to restore it asks

> > for a

> > floppy or a flash drive. Please let me know how I can reset my password

> > without having to reinstall vista.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: administrative password

Date: 09/30/2007 15:18:36

 

 

Marta

 

The link to the password recovery disk

http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/, although a free program, can be a

daunting process for anyone who is not familiar with such things as burning

an ISO file as an image and creating it as a bootable CD.

 

The program that I recommend is not free, but it is very automatic. You

simply place a blank CD recordable disk in the drive and start the program.

The CD will automatically be created. You then place the CD in the drive and

reboot. All of the user accounts on the system will be shown on a screen,

just select the account that where you want to reset the password and press

Enter.

 

This program costs about 40 USD and is available at the following website.

 

Windows Password Recovery Software XP VISTA 2003 2000 NT:

http://www.password-changer.com/

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"marta" wrote in message

news:E00C4611-5174-44E4-B84F-B4A571D19AA6@microsoft.com...

> Hello Ronnie,

> thank you for the reply. I bought the system preinstalled with the OS. I

> do

> not have a password recovery disk. I did try to log on in safe mode, but

> could not log in. Any help would be appreciated.

>

> Marta

>

> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>

>> Marta

>>

>> It's asking for a floppy or flash drive because you should always follow

>> the

>> instructions to create a Password Reset Disk when creating or changing a

>> password.

>>

>> Your recovery options will depend on what type of Vista Installation Disk

>> you have.

>>

>> Was Vista already pre-installed when you bought the computer?

>> If not, do you have a Vista upgrade or full installation disk?

>>

>> Let us know.

>>

>> --

>>

>> Ronnie Vernon

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Shell/User

>>

>>

>> "marta" wrote in message

>> news:2040B39A-58DC-4688-8021-3FE3D1AC5F3F@microsoft.com...

>> >I am a windows vista home user and I changed the administrative

>> >password. I

>> > did not fill up the password hint question. Today, when I try to log on

>> > the

>> > computer, my password is not accepted and when I try to restore it asks

>> > for a

>> > floppy or a flash drive. Please let me know how I can reset my password

>> > without having to reinstall vista.

>> >

>> > Thanks

>> >

>>

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrative password

Date: 09/22/2007 14:28:17

 

 

Sam

 

Please don't take this personally, but I find it comical that someone would

be installing a program (OneCare) to make their computer safer and more

secure, right after they have disabled the most important, and easiest to

use, security component (UAC) that has ever been added to Windows. :)

 

 

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"SamA" wrote in message

news:D25642A4-1F38-4FE9-AEAC-05C8580B778C@microsoft.com...

>I purchased a computer with Dell with Vista Home addition

> and then upgraded it to Ultimate. The problem I having is that

> I've created an account for myself with administrator rights

> and I have unchecked the UAC box to prevent the popups from

> happening. Yet, the popups still occur and programs such as

> OneCare do not recognize me as an administrator.

>

> Any ideas?

> Thanks

> SamA

 

 

 

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From: SamA <SamA@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrative password

Date: 09/23/2007 07:42:01

 

 

Ronnie,

I'm not taking it personal but there are times when I want to do something

and I don't want to be bothered by the UAC message. That said it appears to

be disabled but it isn't. So, humor aside is there something I can do to

understand how to disable and then re-enable UAC when I feel it appropriate.

 

BTW, I find it humorous that a human would allow software to make decisions

for him and be comfortable with those decisions all of the time.

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> Sam

>

> Please don't take this personally, but I find it comical that someone would

> be installing a program (OneCare) to make their computer safer and more

> secure, right after they have disabled the most important, and easiest to

> use, security component (UAC) that has ever been added to Windows. :)

>

>

>

> --

>

> Ronnie Vernon

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Shell/User

>

>

> "SamA" wrote in message

> news:D25642A4-1F38-4FE9-AEAC-05C8580B778C@microsoft.com...

> >I purchased a computer with Dell with Vista Home addition

> > and then upgraded it to Ultimate. The problem I having is that

> > I've created an account for myself with administrator rights

> > and I have unchecked the UAC box to prevent the popups from

> > happening. Yet, the popups still occur and programs such as

> > OneCare do not recognize me as an administrator.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> > Thanks

> > SamA

>

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrative password

Date: 09/23/2007 12:28:29

 

 

"SamA" wrote in message

news:B4747AEA-30B8-4D58-95E5-43DBF0823365@microsoft.com...

 

Sam

 

> I'm not taking it personal but there are times when I want to do something

> and I don't want to be bothered by the UAC message. That said it appears

> to

> be disabled but it isn't. So, humor aside is there something I can do to

> understand how to disable and then re-enable UAC when I feel it

> appropriate.

 

Yes, but the disabling/enabling of UAC would be even more difficult and time

consuming than just leaving it enabled? It only takes one click to dismiss

the UAC prompt when it appears?

 

> BTW, I find it humorous that a human would allow software to make

> decisions

> for him and be comfortable with those decisions all of the time.

 

This is a common misconception. UAC does 'NOT' make any decisions for you.

What UAC does is to inform you if a program tries to gain global,

unrestricted, access to your computer. UAC notifies you, puts the system in

a secure state, (Secure Desktop) and then it asks for 'YOUR' permission to

continue. UAC has no information on 'what' the program will do, 'YOU' must

make the decision, depending on whether or not you trust that program.

 

If you run with full administrator privileges a program can just silently

install and make any changes it wishes and you will never be aware of that

fact until the deed is done.

 

The real problem that we're facing is that the new security model for Vista

is requiring users to 'learn something new and do something different' to

enable them to operate more securely. Users are balking because they want to

'do things the way they have always done them'.

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>

>> Sam

>>

>> Please don't take this personally, but I find it comical that someone

>> would

>> be installing a program (OneCare) to make their computer safer and more

>> secure, right after they have disabled the most important, and easiest to

>> use, security component (UAC) that has ever been added to Windows. :)

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> Ronnie Vernon

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Shell/User

>>

>>

>> "SamA" wrote in message

>> news:D25642A4-1F38-4FE9-AEAC-05C8580B778C@microsoft.com...

>> >I purchased a computer with Dell with Vista Home addition

>> > and then upgraded it to Ultimate. The problem I having is that

>> > I've created an account for myself with administrator rights

>> > and I have unchecked the UAC box to prevent the popups from

>> > happening. Yet, the popups still occur and programs such as

>> > OneCare do not recognize me as an administrator.

>> >

>> > Any ideas?

>> > Thanks

>> > SamA

>>

 

 

 

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From: SamA <SamA@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administrative password

Date: 09/23/2007 13:08:00

 

 

Ronnie,

Ronnie,

I'm afraid that discussing security is like discussing religion, we will

never see the other person’s point of view. I fully understand the purpose of

UAC and how it works as it is little more than an updated UNIX command called

sudo. I can also appreciate why it was placed into the Windows environment

and I think it is about time that there were multiple levels of security in

Windows. What we will never agree on is why a user might want to turn it on

or off or why if the GUI that says that it is disable is not actually

disabling the “feature”.

 

I really do appreciate your insights into this issue and your taking the

time to discuss this with me.

 

Thanks

Sam

 

 

 

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> "SamA" wrote in message

> news:B4747AEA-30B8-4D58-95E5-43DBF0823365@microsoft.com...

>

> Sam

>

> > I'm not taking it personal but there are times when I want to do something

> > and I don't want to be bothered by the UAC message. That said it appears

> > to

> > be disabled but it isn't. So, humor aside is there something I can do to

> > understand how to disable and then re-enable UAC when I feel it

> > appropriate.

>

> Yes, but the disabling/enabling of UAC would be even more difficult and time

> consuming than just leaving it enabled? It only takes one click to dismiss

> the UAC prompt when it appears?

>

> > BTW, I find it humorous that a human would allow software to make

> > decisions

> > for him and be comfortable with those decisions all of the time.

>

> This is a common misconception. UAC does 'NOT' make any decisions for you.

> What UAC does is to inform you if a program tries to gain global,

> unrestricted, access to your computer. UAC notifies you, puts the system in

> a secure state, (Secure Desktop) and then it asks for 'YOUR' permission to

> continue. UAC has no information on 'what' the program will do, 'YOU' must

> make the decision, depending on whether or not you trust that program.

>

> If you run with full administrator privileges a program can just silently

> install and make any changes it wishes and you will never be aware of that

> fact until the deed is done.

>

> The real problem that we're facing is that the new security model for Vista

> is requiring users to 'learn something new and do something different' to

> enable them to operate more securely. Users are balking because they want to

> 'do things the way they have always done them'.

>

> --

>

> Ronnie Vernon

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Shell/User

>

> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> >

> >> Sam

> >>

> >> Please don't take this personally, but I find it comical that someone

> >> would

> >> be installing a program (OneCare) to make their computer safer and more

> >> secure, right after they have disabled the most important, and easiest to

> >> use, security component (UAC) that has ever been added to Windows. :)

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Ronnie Vernon

> >> Microsoft MVP

> >> Windows Shell/User

> >>

> >>

> >> "SamA" wrote in message

> >> news:D25642A4-1F38-4FE9-AEAC-05C8580B778C@microsoft.com...

> >> >I purchased a computer with Dell with Vista Home addition

> >> > and then upgraded it to Ultimate. The problem I having is that

> >> > I've created an account for myself with administrator rights

> >> > and I have unchecked the UAC box to prevent the popups from

> >> > happening. Yet, the popups still occur and programs such as

> >> > OneCare do not recognize me as an administrator.

> >> >

> >> > Any ideas?

> >> > Thanks

> >> > SamA

> >>

>

 

 

 

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From: Phil Aces <PhilAces@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/01/2007 05:12:00

 

 

Thanks for the advice.... the story now

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> Phil

>

> This is strange. Unlike Windows XP, the CTRL+ALT+DEL at the login screen is

> disabled in Vista. In Vista Home Premium, it takes specific changes in the

> registry to enable this option at login.

> >

> Ronnie....

 

> Thanks for the advice... I've now had someone look at the computer and the good news is that I can now log into on as an administrator. However, the not so good news is that: I an still faced with the CTRL+ALT+DEL at the login screen.

 

Secondly, once logged in, of the TWO user accounts that were set up I am

only able to access ONE. This is to say that I am unble to switch between the

Two accounts that were set up - the switch user function doesn't work.

Perplexing. Furthermore, I have been unable to set up any other user

accounts. (I should say I have but I am unable to access them)

 

As for the other points you raised... Using F8 does work in that it brings

me to the CTRL+ALT+DEL at the login screen. Yes Vista was pre installed.

 

The question for me seems to be - how do I disable going to the

CTRL+ALT+DEL login screen? Then I might be able to get to my original user

account.

 

 

> Ronnie Vernon

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Shell/User

>

>

> "Phil Aces" wrote in message

> news:47DBBA2E-67EC-4777-B176-236F139F2992@microsoft.com...

> > Upon booting up Vista (HP) insted of going to opening Users page my

> > computer

> > now takes me to a page that asks me to press the Ctrl, Alt and Delete

> > buttons. After this, it then asks me to enter my administrators name. But

> > worst of all, from here it will not allow me onto the opening desktop

> > page.

> > It keeps telling me that my administrators name(s) and passwords are

> > incorrect - which they are 100% not - before asking me again for the

> > correct

> > name. Sometimes it trys to open up and says 'welcome' as if it is normally

> > opening up but then it returns to the Ctrl, Alt and Delete page. I've

> > tried

> > F8 memory reinstalation - nothing. Anybody any ideas... please.

> >

>

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/01/2007 23:09:33

 

 

Phil

 

We can likely fix this by changing a couple of registry keys, but first, I

need some more information.

 

After you press CTRL+ALT+DEL at the log in screen, do you see a box where

you have to enter an account name as well as a password or do you see the

picture with your account name??

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"Phil Aces" wrote in message

news:D377D8FE-F277-46FB-BFBE-A1DCEA931E99@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the advice.... the story now

>

> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>

>> Phil

>>

>> This is strange. Unlike Windows XP, the CTRL+ALT+DEL at the login screen

>> is

>> disabled in Vista. In Vista Home Premium, it takes specific changes in

>> the

>> registry to enable this option at login.

>> >

>> Ronnie....

>

>> Thanks for the advice... I've now had someone look at the computer and

>> the good news is that I can now log into on as an administrator. However,

>> the not so good news is that: I an still faced with the CTRL+ALT+DEL at

>> the login screen.

>

> Secondly, once logged in, of the TWO user accounts that were set up I am

> only able to access ONE. This is to say that I am unble to switch between

> the

> Two accounts that were set up - the switch user function doesn't work.

> Perplexing. Furthermore, I have been unable to set up any other user

> accounts. (I should say I have but I am unable to access them)

>

> As for the other points you raised... Using F8 does work in that it

> brings

> me to the CTRL+ALT+DEL at the login screen. Yes Vista was pre installed.

>

> The question for me seems to be - how do I disable going to the

> CTRL+ALT+DEL login screen? Then I might be able to get to my original user

> account.

>

>

>> Ronnie Vernon

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Shell/User

>>

>>

>> "Phil Aces" wrote in message

>> news:47DBBA2E-67EC-4777-B176-236F139F2992@microsoft.com...

>> > Upon booting up Vista (HP) insted of going to opening Users page my

>> > computer

>> > now takes me to a page that asks me to press the Ctrl, Alt and Delete

>> > buttons. After this, it then asks me to enter my administrators name.

>> > But

>> > worst of all, from here it will not allow me onto the opening desktop

>> > page.

>> > It keeps telling me that my administrators name(s) and passwords are

>> > incorrect - which they are 100% not - before asking me again for the

>> > correct

>> > name. Sometimes it trys to open up and says 'welcome' as if it is

>> > normally

>> > opening up but then it returns to the Ctrl, Alt and Delete page. I've

>> > tried

>> > F8 memory reinstalation - nothing. Anybody any ideas... please.

>> >

>>

 

 

 

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From: Phil Aces <PhilAces@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/02/2007 02:55:02

 

 

 

 

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

 

> Phil

>

> We can likely fix this by changing a couple of registry keys, but first, I

> need some more information.

>

> After you press CTRL+ALT+DEL at the log in screen, do you see a box where

> you have to enter an account name as well as a password or do you see the

> picture with your account name??

 

Ronnie.

 

Yes I do see a like a large plain box and then two smaller boxes where you

have to enter an account name as well as a password.

I hope that helps.

Phil

 

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/02/2007 11:32:00

 

 

"Phil Aces" wrote in message

news:B63071BC-2F21-43C0-A865-F1FD701E7A1E@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

>

>> Phil

>>

>> We can likely fix this by changing a couple of registry keys, but first,

>> I

>> need some more information.

>>

>> After you press CTRL+ALT+DEL at the log in screen, do you see a box where

>> you have to enter an account name as well as a password or do you see the

>> picture with your account name??

>

> Ronnie.

>

> Yes I do see a like a large plain box and then two smaller boxes where you

> have to enter an account name as well as a password.

> I hope that helps.

> Phil

>

>

 

Phil

 

OK, I neeeded that information just make sure that it was behaving as

expected. Here is a procedure that you can perform to get back to the

default behavior. I will include the instructions for making a backup of the

registry keys that you will be changing.

 

Go to Start and type regedt32.exe In the results, right click

regedit32.exe and select the Run As Administrator option.

 

Navigate to the following location:

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

 

Before you do anything else, you want to backup this registry key in case

something goes wrong. With the "System" key selected, go to File/Export. In

the Save dialog box, Select the Desktop in the 'Save In' line. In the 'File

Name' box, type: CAD and click the Save Button. This will save a backup of

the registry key to your Desktop as CAD.reg.

 

In the right side window, Double click the following value: DisableCAD

In the Value Data box, change the value to a 1 (one) and click OK.

 

Next, double click the following value: DontDisplayLastUserName Change the

value data for this value to 0 (zero) and click OK.

 

Exit the registry editor and reboot the computer.

 

This should get rid of the CTRL+ALT+DEL and the login box at start up.

 

Let me know the results.

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

 

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From: Phil Aces <PhilAces@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/03/2007 03:40:00

 

 

 

> Phil

>

> OK, I neeeded that information just make sure that it was behaving as

> expected. Here is a procedure that you can perform to get back to the

> default behavior. I will include the instructions for making a backup of the

> registry keys that you will be changing.

>

> Go to Start and type regedt32.exe In the results, right click

> regedit32.exe and select the Run As Administrator option.

>

> Navigate to the following location:

>

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

>

> Before you do anything else, you want to backup this registry key in case

> something goes wrong. With the "System" key selected, go to File/Export. In

> the Save dialog box, Select the Desktop in the 'Save In' line. In the 'File

> Name' box, type: CAD and click the Save Button. This will save a backup of

> the registry key to your Desktop as CAD.reg.

>

> In the right side window, Double click the following value: DisableCAD

> In the Value Data box, change the value to a 1 (one) and click OK.

>

> Next, double click the following value: DontDisplayLastUserName Change the

> value data for this value to 0 (zero) and click OK.

>

> Exit the registry editor and reboot the computer.

>

> This should get rid of the CTRL+ALT+DEL and the login box at start up.

>

> Let me know the results.

 

Hi Ronnie...

 

I've saved a backup of the CAD. successfully.

 

A slight problem.... Once I've followed the path and reach \System... in the

right side window there is no value: DisableCAD. (As far as I can see!)

 

What there is in amongst the other values are:

 

disable lockworkstation...

disable statusmessages...

undockwithoutlogon...

validateadmincodesignitures...

 

I have found the value.... DontDisplayLastUsreName...

 

> What do you say...?

 

 

 

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From: Phil Aces <PhilAces@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/03/2007 05:23:04

 

 

 

 

"Phil Aces" wrote:

 

>

> > Phil

> >

> > OK, I neeeded that information just make sure that it was behaving as

> > expected. Here is a procedure that you can perform to get back to the

> > default behavior. I will include the instructions for making a backup of the

> > registry keys that you will be changing.

> >

> > Go to Start and type regedt32.exe In the results, right click

> > regedit32.exe and select the Run As Administrator option.

> >

> > Navigate to the following location:

> >

> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

> >

> > Before you do anything else, you want to backup this registry key in case

> > something goes wrong. With the "System" key selected, go to File/Export. In

> > the Save dialog box, Select the Desktop in the 'Save In' line. In the 'File

> > Name' box, type: CAD and click the Save Button. This will save a backup of

> > the registry key to your Desktop as CAD.reg.

> >

> > In the right side window, Double click the following value: DisableCAD

> > In the Value Data box, change the value to a 1 (one) and click OK.

> >

> > Next, double click the following value: DontDisplayLastUserName Change the

> > value data for this value to 0 (zero) and click OK.

> >

> > Exit the registry editor and reboot the computer.

> >

> > This should get rid of the CTRL+ALT+DEL and the login box at start up.

> >

> > Let me know the results.

>

> Hi Ronnie...

>

> I've saved a backup of the CAD. successfully.

>

> A slight problem.... Once I've followed the path and reach \System... in the

> right side window there is no value: DisableCAD. (As far as I can see!)

>

> What there is in amongst the other values are:

>

> disable lockworkstation...

> disable statusmessages...

> undockwithoutlogon...

> validateadmincodesignitures...

>

> I have found the value.... DontDisplayLastUsreName...

>

> > What do you say...? Wait a minute... Wait a minute... Stop the press...

I've found DisableCAD... (used the 'find...' command). I've now done

everything you have said and haypresto everything is back to normal...

except...

I clicked on my desktop icon expecting to find all of my old setting and....

nothing. And I mean nothing... A blank black screen looks back at me. The

only thing present is the windows start up logo is still in the corner. When

I press on this only 3 options come in to view.

If I click on the dest top I am unable to bring up any instructions for

personnalising the way the decktop looks and soforth... I can access the

internet throught the button on my keyboard... but when I come to close the

internet the computer tells me that this procedure can only be performed by

the administrator.... but this account - my account - is the original

administration account. Gauling. This computer is new and has never had any

bugs or viruses - I thank Windows One care for this - I just can not get my

head around this.

 

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out... continues but...

Date: 10/03/2007 13:58:25

 

 

"Phil Aces" wrote in message

news:04588FD7-AAC3-472D-ACF7-1BAC7BD1C17A@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Phil Aces" wrote:

>

>>

>> > Phil

>> >

>> > OK, I neeeded that information just make sure that it was behaving as

>> > expected. Here is a procedure that you can perform to get back to the

>> > default behavior. I will include the instructions for making a backup

>> > of the

>> > registry keys that you will be changing.

>> >

>> > Go to Start and type regedt32.exe In the results, right click

>> > regedit32.exe and select the Run As Administrator option.

>> >

>> > Navigate to the following location:

>> >

>> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

>> >

>> > Before you do anything else, you want to backup this registry key in

>> > case

>> > something goes wrong. With the "System" key selected, go to

>> > File/Export. In

>> > the Save dialog box, Select the Desktop in the 'Save In' line. In the

>> > 'File

>> > Name' box, type: CAD and click the Save Button. This will save a backup

>> > of

>> > the registry key to your Desktop as CAD.reg.

>> >

>> > In the right side window, Double click the following value: DisableCAD

>> > In the Value Data box, change the value to a 1 (one) and click OK.

>> >

>> > Next, double click the following value: DontDisplayLastUserName

>> > Change the

>> > value data for this value to 0 (zero) and click OK.

>> >

>> > Exit the registry editor and reboot the computer.

>> >

>> > This should get rid of the CTRL+ALT+DEL and the login box at start up.

>> >

>> > Let me know the results.

>>

>> Hi Ronnie...

>>

>> I've saved a backup of the CAD. successfully.

>>

>> A slight problem.... Once I've followed the path and reach \System... in

>> the

>> right side window there is no value: DisableCAD. (As far as I can see!)

>>

>> What there is in amongst the other values are:

>>

>> disable lockworkstation...

>> disable statusmessages...

>> undockwithoutlogon...

>> validateadmincodesignitures...

>>

>> I have found the value.... DontDisplayLastUsreName...

>>

>> > What do you say...? Wait a minute... Wait a minute... Stop the

>> > press...

> I've found DisableCAD... (used the 'find...' command). I've now done

> everything you have said and haypresto everything is back to normal...

> except...

> I clicked on my desktop icon expecting to find all of my old setting

> and....

> nothing. And I mean nothing... A blank black screen looks back at me. The

> only thing present is the windows start up logo is still in the corner.

> When

> I press on this only 3 options come in to view.

> If I click on the dest top I am unable to bring up any instructions for

> personnalising the way the decktop looks and soforth... I can access the

> internet throught the button on my keyboard... but when I come to close

> the

> internet the computer tells me that this procedure can only be performed

> by

> the administrator.... but this account - my account - is the original

> administration account. Gauling. This computer is new and has never had

> any

> bugs or viruses - I thank Windows One care for this - I just can not get

> my

> head around this.

>

Phil

 

It's apparent that something is happening that is way beyond normal,

expected behavior.

 

You might want to run the System File Checker utility to make sure that all

of the system files are intact.

 

Go to Start and type: cmd.exe In the results, right click the cmd.exe

and select the Run As Administrator option. In the command window, type:

SFC /SCANNOW and press Enter.

 

This will take awhile to run so be patient.

 

After it is complete, exit everything and reboot the computer.

 

If no joy with this, go to Administrative Tools and select the Event Viewer.

Look at Custom Views/Administrative Events and also Windows

Logs/Applications for any red error messages that have a current date and

time. If you find any, double click the error and select the Copy Button at

the bottom/left. Paste the results back here, in a reply.

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

 

 

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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP <rv@invalid.org>

To: none

Subject: Re: Administration lock out...

Date: 09/27/2007 15:26:14

 

 

Phil

 

This is strange. Unlike Windows XP, the CTRL+ALT+DEL at the login screen is

disabled in Vista. In Vista Home Premium, it takes specific changes in the

registry to enable this option at login.

 

Reboot and press CTRL+ALT+DEL when you are prompted. In the login box, type

Administrator for the user name, leave the password box empty and press

Enter. If everything is working properly, this should log you on with the

Built-in Administrator account. Does this work?

 

If not we need more information.

 

You said F8 doesn't work. Does this mean that you cannot login in Safe Mode?

Was this version of Vista pre-installed on the system when you purchased it?

If not, do you have an Installation Disk for Vista?

 

 

--

 

Ronnie Vernon

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

"Phil Aces" wrote in message

news:47DBBA2E-67EC-4777-B176-236F139F2992@microsoft.com...

> Upon booting up Vista (HP) insted of going to opening Users page my

> computer

> now takes me to a page that asks me to press the Ctrl, Alt and Delete

> buttons. After this, it then asks me to enter my administrators name. But

> worst of all, from here it will not allow me onto the opening desktop

> page.

> It keeps telling me that my administrators name(s) and passwords are

> incorrect - which they are 100% not - before asking me again for the

> correct

> name. Sometimes it trys to open up and says 'welcome' as if it is normally

> opening up but then it returns to the Ctrl, Alt and Delete page. I've

> tried

> F8 memory reinstalation - nothing. Anybody any ideas... please.

>

 

 

 

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From: Joe Hartwell <hartwell.joe@gmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Adding more than one acct can't switch back and forth

Date: 09/21/2007 16:35:36

 

 

This has something to do with your different users display settings, one

user has a different display to the other for example. When they switch back

the monitor has to adjust itself in a matter of milliseconds, forcing this

change to happen to quickly results in this error. All it means is that your

monitor cannot refresh quick enough to display without possible damage and

so it does this. If possible, you could try switching the monitor off and on

again.

Hope this helps.

"Bunny" wrote in message

news:9B500965-FEF7-4362-B37F-EBCBB3F6D6E1@microsoft.com...

> When logged on to user 1 then switch to user 2, when I switch back to user

> 1

> error message states: H: 31 54KHZ, V: 50 120HZ, PC display settings

> correct?

> and screen goes black. How do I fix this problem?

 

 

 

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From: tiziano <tiziano@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: RE: Accounts and DLL and ocx

Date: 09/27/2007 02:45:01

 

 

I think you have to turn off the UAC (User Account Control) before to

manually register ocx and activex dll.

Go to Control Panel -> (switch to classic view) User Account -> Turn on/off

user account control -> uncheck the uac check box and then restart the

machine.

Then try again to register your files with regsvr32.

Obviously all this as administrator ;)

Tiziano

 

"Patrizia" wrote:

 

> Hi.

> I've got a problem with my Vista Business.

> Set my Account Patrizia as the Administrator, but this account Patrizia

> can't register DLL and OCX.

> Can anyone help?

> Thanks!

> :)

 

 

 

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From: P. Di Stolfo <paolodistolfo@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Access denied to folder

Date: 09/23/2007 11:12:11

 

 

Hello,

 

yes, it may likely override the permissions.

Try right-clicking the folder -> Properties -> tab "Security" > Advanced ->

tab "Owner" -> Edit -> use your user name as owner, check the box "... for

all subcontainers..." -> OK . Give the Authenticated Users all the necessary

permissions in Properties -> tab "Security" -> Edit for deleting. Then, try

deleting again.

 

Hope this will help you.

Greetings,

P. Di Stolfo

--

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

// http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

"rfreedm" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

news:EADA0B21-ECDF-4580-81F2-6256439B2F92@microsoft.com...

>I was changing permissions on a folder as an administrator. My toddler

>came

> in, distracted me, and I denied Full Control to Authenticated Users on the

> folder (I was not paying attention like I should have been). Now, even

> logged on as an administrator, I cannont access or delete the folder. I

> am

> the only Admin on the the system, and shows full contol. I think that the

> Authenticated Users override this (?) Any help? I really need to just

> delete the folder at this point, but am denied.

>

> Thanks

> --

> rfreedm

 

 

 

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From: rfreedm <rfreedm@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Access denied to folder

Date: 09/23/2007 13:00:00

 

 

This did the trick. Thanks for the assist. I tried this earlier, but missed

a step. Folder was deleted and some long hours of work recovered!

--

rfreedm

 

 

"P. Di Stolfo" wrote:

 

> Hello,

>

> yes, it may likely override the permissions.

> Try right-clicking the folder -> Properties -> tab "Security" > Advanced ->

> tab "Owner" -> Edit -> use your user name as owner, check the box "... for

> all subcontainers..." -> OK . Give the Authenticated Users all the necessary

> permissions in Properties -> tab "Security" -> Edit for deleting. Then, try

> deleting again.

>

> Hope this will help you.

> Greetings,

> P. Di Stolfo

> --

> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> // http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language

> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> "rfreedm" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

> news:EADA0B21-ECDF-4580-81F2-6256439B2F92@microsoft.com...

> >I was changing permissions on a folder as an administrator. My toddler

> >came

> > in, distracted me, and I denied Full Control to Authenticated Users on the

> > folder (I was not paying attention like I should have been). Now, even

> > logged on as an administrator, I cannont access or delete the folder. I

> > am

> > the only Admin on the the system, and shows full contol. I think that the

> > Authenticated Users override this (?) Any help? I really need to just

> > delete the folder at this point, but am denied.

> >

> > Thanks

> > --

> > rfreedm

>

 

 

 

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From: P. Di Stolfo <paolodistolfo@hotmail.com>

To: none

Subject: Re: Access denied to folder

Date: 09/23/2007 13:03:02

 

 

You're welcome!

Greetings,

P. Di Stolfo

--

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

// http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language

//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

"rfreedm" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

news:4DAA229D-4CC1-485A-83A8-DAA5E50FA24F@microsoft.com...

> This did the trick. Thanks for the assist. I tried this earlier, but

> missed

> a step. Folder was deleted and some long hours of work recovered!

> --

> rfreedm

>

>

> "P. Di Stolfo" wrote:

>

>> Hello,

>>

>> yes, it may likely override the permissions.

>> Try right-clicking the folder -> Properties -> tab "Security" >

>> Advanced ->

>> tab "Owner" -> Edit -> use your user name as owner, check the box "...

>> for

>> all subcontainers..." -> OK . Give the Authenticated Users all the

>> necessary

>> permissions in Properties -> tab "Security" -> Edit for deleting. Then,

>> try

>> deleting again.

>>

>> Hope this will help you.

>> Greetings,

>> P. Di Stolfo

>> --

>> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> // http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in German language

>> //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> "rfreedm" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

>> news:EADA0B21-ECDF-4580-81F2-6256439B2F92@microsoft.com...

>> >I was changing permissions on a folder as an administrator. My toddler

>> >came

>> > in, distracted me, and I denied Full Control to Authenticated Users on

>> > the

>> > folder (I was not paying attention like I should have been). Now, even

>> > logged on as an administrator, I cannont access or delete the folder.

>> > I

>> > am

>> > the only Admin on the the system, and shows full contol. I think that

>> > the

>> > Authenticated Users override this (?) Any help? I really need to just

>> > delete the folder at this point, but am denied.

>> >

>> > Thanks

>> > --

>> > rfreedm

>>

 

 

 

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From: BurrWalnut <BurrWalnut@discussions.microsoft.com>

To: none

Subject: RE: Absolutely sick to death of VISTA

Date: 09/29/2007 10:28:01

 

 

What's the point of posting here?

 

The solution is in your own hands, you know what to do, i.e. if you have the

CD!

 

"Sorry_I_bought_it" wrote:

 

> Disabled Windows Defender, Disabled the Windows Firewall, Disabled Indexing

> and finally the hard drive is not running constantly. The "access denied" for

> administrative user is a constant annoyance. The hidden spyware "is your copy

> genuine?" and the undocumented "features" preventing copying of DVDs and CDs

> is just pathetic.

 

 

 

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